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Supposed new law in Texas: "The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before an abortion is provided."
Finally! No matter how I feel about abortion, the idea that a minor child can get any medical treatment without the parent's consent or knowledge is horrifying.
Supposed new law in Texas: "The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before an abortion is provided."
Finally! No matter how I feel about abortion, the idea that a minor child can get any medical treatment without the parent's consent or knowledge is horrifying.
Here you go, the 21st century far right wingnut's answer to avoiding abortions.
It's soooooo Santorum:
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Supposed new law in Texas: "The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before an abortion is provided."
Finally! No matter how I feel about abortion, the idea that a minor child can get any medical treatment without the parent's consent or knowledge is horrifying.
There is a difference. Though parents should be required to be informed and part of the decision making process, the person in question is the only one that should be capable of making that decision.
I cant fathom allowing a parent to FORCE a 15 year old to go through with a pregnancy that they do not want to have. Just because they are a minor does not mean that they lose complete control over their bodies.
wow, something to be proud of...are all blue states made up of such sick and twisted people?
Hey, it's the Republican way! Just think of all the jobs created and profits to be calculated based on someone else's misery!
If you find this repugnant, then please step up as a private citizen to offer your support of all the unwanted children that will be born out of these new restrictions, because their mommas and daddies won't be able to afford them. Step up or shut up.
Supposed new law in Texas: "The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before an abortion is provided."
Finally! No matter how I feel about abortion, the idea that a minor child can get any medical treatment without the parent's consent or knowledge is horrifying.
wish I knocked her up... she was a Rebecca De Mornay copy hot as hell.. prolly old and fat now.....
But disagreement is the heart of debate, not much debating without itThen we disagree. What if my example is a 13 year old? Do they have the age and experience to make the decision? To me it's a family's decision, and when they are under the age and living at home, their parents should have a right to help decide in the decision.
Not the state, not the country, but the family. We should not be ordering laws that interfere with Family, PRIVATE MATTERS.
You are advocating the complete removal of control over anothers body. I find that notion abhorrent.
But disagreement is the heart of debate, not much debating without itThen we disagree. What if my example is a 13 year old? Do they have the age and experience to make the decision? To me it's a family's decision, and when they are under the age and living at home, their parents should have a right to help decide in the decision.
Not the state, not the country, but the family. We should not be ordering laws that interfere with Family, PRIVATE MATTERS.
No, she does not have the experience or age but that is rather irrelevant to be honest. What is in the balance is the right over one’s self. The age is irrelevant outside of medical necessity. You make the claim that we should not be making laws that interfere with private decisions but that is exactly what this type of law is doing, taking over a private decision.
It seems that you feel the decision is NOT the ‘girls’ (as we are not talking about women here) and that is the crux of the argument. The problem I have with that is essentially you are saying that the parent should have the right to FORCE a 13 year old in your example to have a baby that she does not want to have. THAT, to me, is unacceptable. What you have done is NOT getting the government out of a private matter. Instead, you have used the government to SHIFT the power of that decision to someone else. That is far closer to adding government in that decision than taking it out. This is not and never was a family matter. It is a personal matter.
Now, with that stated, parents in this situation are VERY important. In that, I think and stated that a parent should be informed of the decision. Expanding on that, they should be a PART of that process. I fully agree with that BUT that does not mean they are the final arbiter of getting that abortion. No one, ever, should be allowed to force an abortion or prevent one that is within reasonable regulations. You are advocating the complete removal of control over another’s body. I find that notion abhorrent.
You are advocating the complete removal of control over anothers body. I find that notion abhorrent.
wow, something to be proud of...are all blue states made up of such sick and twisted people?
Hey, it's the Republican way! Just think of all the jobs created and profits to be calculated based on someone else's misery!
If you find this repugnant, then please step up as a private citizen to offer your support of all the unwanted children that will be born out of these new restrictions, because their mommas and daddies won't be able to afford them. Step up or shut up.
Do you have some kind of switch in the back of that small brain of yours that we can just turn off? It's almost embarrassing to listen to your prattle.
Are you willing to take a hike in your taxes to support a flood of unwanted children?
But disagreement is the heart of debate, not much debating without itThen we disagree. What if my example is a 13 year old? Do they have the age and experience to make the decision? To me it's a family's decision, and when they are under the age and living at home, their parents should have a right to help decide in the decision.
Not the state, not the country, but the family. We should not be ordering laws that interfere with Family, PRIVATE MATTERS.
No, she does not have the experience or age but that is rather irrelevant to be honest. What is in the balance is the right over ones self. The age is irrelevant outside of medical necessity. You make the claim that we should not be making laws that interfere with private decisions but that is exactly what this type of law is doing, taking over a private decision.
It seems that you feel the decision is NOT the girls (as we are not talking about women here) and that is the crux of the argument. The problem I have with that is essentially you are saying that the parent should have the right to FORCE a 13 year old in your example to have a baby that she does not want to have. THAT, to me, is unacceptable. What you have done is NOT getting the government out of a private matter. Instead, you have used the government to SHIFT the power of that decision to someone else. That is far closer to adding government in that decision than taking it out. This is not and never was a family matter. It is a personal matter.
Now, with that stated, parents in this situation are VERY important. In that, I think and stated that a parent should be informed of the decision. Expanding on that, they should be a PART of that process. I fully agree with that BUT that does not mean they are the final arbiter of getting that abortion. No one, ever, should be allowed to force an abortion or prevent one that is within reasonable regulations. You are advocating the complete removal of control over anothers body. I find that notion abhorrent.
Why do you feel it is FORCING to have a child and it is NOT FORCING to have an abortion?
Do you even realize that forcing to have an abortion at that age might result in inability to have children for the rest of her life? And that a stupid teenager is not capable to understand this and parents might know better?
Abortion is the one of the most detrimental procedures to the woman's health ( and especially a young girl's health) and it is viewed as totally benign and a natural process of pregnancy is willified - THIS is the extreme and abysmal result of the brainwashing by libtard lies
Anyone who believes in Late Term Abortion is a complete and utter Idiot.
If a woman can't decide by week 20 to keep a baby then I suggest she may be a Brainless Lib.
Why are you leaping to that extreme when these new laws will make it difficult if not impossible for many when a woman is just 4-5 weeks?
Let me answer for you: Because you are lazy and don't understand the laws that are going into effect:
Restrictions on Abortion
In Texas, the following restrictions on abortion were in effect as of May 1, 2013:
A woman must receive state-directed counseling that includes information designed to discourage her from having an abortion and then wait 24 hours before the procedure is provided.
The parent of a minor must consent and be notified before an abortion is provided.
Public funding is available for abortion only in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest.*
(Funny how the far right is creating its own future Democratic voting nightmare)
A woman must undergo an ultrasound before obtaining an abortion; the provider must show and describe the image to the woman. If the woman lives within 100 miles of an abortion provider she must obtain the ultrasound at least 24 hours before the abortion.
State Facts About Abortion: Texas
And?
What is your point? This law does not allow a parent to force an abortion as far as I know. It requires the parent to sign off on the procedure but I think the girl still has to consent as well. Not sure though.
You are advocating the complete removal of control over anothers body. I find that notion abhorrent.
It is not her body. And she is not capable of making informed consent before 18.
Hey, it's the Republican way! Just think of all the jobs created and profits to be calculated based on someone else's misery!
If you find this repugnant, then please step up as a private citizen to offer your support of all the unwanted children that will be born out of these new restrictions, because their mommas and daddies won't be able to afford them. Step up or shut up.
Do you have some kind of switch in the back of that small brain of yours that we can just turn off? It's almost embarrassing to listen to your prattle.
Are you willing to take a hike in your taxes to support a flood of unwanted children?
Because people are not going to stop having sex, in case you think that is what is going to happen from these new laws.
And?
What is your point? This law does not allow a parent to force an abortion as far as I know. It requires the parent to sign off on the procedure but I think the girl still has to consent as well. Not sure though.
My point is that the law is AWESOME - it gives the parents the rights to decide in a situation where a teenager can not decide for herself and SHOULD NOT decide. As they do not decide for themselves in any other medical procedure ( or not even medical) - and getting an abortion is much more detrimental than getting a piercing ( which requires a consent from the parents)
wow, something to be proud of...are all blue states made up of such sick and twisted people?
Hey, it's the Republican way! Just think of all the jobs created and profits to be calculated based on someone else's misery!
If you find this repugnant, then please step up as a private citizen to offer your support of all the unwanted children that will be born out of these new restrictions, because their mommas and daddies won't be able to afford them. Step up or shut up.
