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The Americans who tend to be obese and malnourished live either in poverty or the lower class. Universal Healthcare would go a long way to mending that problem.
How?
France, where doctors went on strike for weeks, and people were left without care, not to mention people died of heat stroke in hospitals during a heat wave years back.
Germany, has a system of private insurance, the nearly all people are part of.
Moreover, nearly all those countries have double our tax rate.
Which is more expensive: Current insurance premiums, or a 50% tax rate on the middle class?
And yes, the fact is, if you want to support your argument, then you do have to explain why people come from all over the world from their 'free health care' systems, to pay for health care here.
If you can't, then whether you admit it, or believe it, you have undeniably lost the argument that free government care is better.
SOME PEOPLE come to the United States for healthcare. Some. Its a tiny percentage and not proof that the United States healthcare system is better.
Healthcare cost in Europe are about 1/2 to 2/3s of what they are in the United States. The Quality is better because the people there live longer. Everyone there is provided for. Its the three BIG WINS!
The United States can get the taxes it needs for Universal Healthcare from the top 20% of income earners who have 80% of the wealth in the country. Capital Gains, Property, Estate and other things besides just income will need to see increased tax rates. The Middle Class will only be lightly effected if at all by the increased tax rates. The lower class and the poor won't have to pay anything.
bullshit. have you been to any European countries? I have. The quality is NOT better.
Yes, I have been to Europe. But your anecdotal experience is irrelevant to the raw facts of average life expectancy.
You would know about irrelevance, given that you keep yammering about life expectancy like it has anything to do with healthcare.
Healthcare has everything to do with life expectancy regardless of how much you wish it didn't.
The Americans who tend to be obese and malnourished live either in poverty or the lower class. Universal Healthcare would go a long way to mending that problem.
How?
He apparently has some ridiculous notion that impoverishing everyone in the country to pay for doctor visits is somehow going to magically make people crave salads. I'm sure you've noticed that "reality" is just a word in the dictionary to this utopian ass napkin.
Yep, but that's a tiny minority. Its irrelevant to whether which country is doing healthcare better overall for its entire population.
Your issue is that healthcare is not as strong for the "poor". Agreed? You think it is perfectly fine for the middle class and the wealthy. Correct?
No, its not fine for the middle class and wealthy in the United States although those groups fair better in terms of the overall experience than the poor. The United States is being bankrupted by the way it does healthcare, the for profit healthcare industry. Were spending nearly 5 times on healthcare what we spend on national defense. Healthcare is too expensive, wasteful and provides only marginal benefits in the United States.
Not really. Illegal alien are bankrupting healthcare. That and stupid schemes in Obamacare.
Illegal aliens provide far more benefit to the U.S. economy overall than any cost they add to healthcare. We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not in order to grow and sustain economic growth in this country. Its a demographic reality many people do not understand, largely for ideological and racial reasons.
So basically you support slavery to? No they don’t. They easily consume resources set aside for poor COTIZENS. They also burden our healthcare system with their exotic diseases they bring from their home countries. I bet you will deflect from those facts as well. When Automation takes the jobs from America’s poor that the illegals steal what then? You come of as those types who see a future America where there is a ruling class and a slave class.
Your issue is that healthcare is not as strong for the "poor". Agreed? You think it is perfectly fine for the middle class and the wealthy. Correct?
No, its not fine for the middle class and wealthy in the United States although those groups fair better in terms of the overall experience than the poor. The United States is being bankrupted by the way it does healthcare, the for profit healthcare industry. Were spending nearly 5 times on healthcare what we spend on national defense. Healthcare is too expensive, wasteful and provides only marginal benefits in the United States.
Not really. Illegal alien are bankrupting healthcare. That and stupid schemes in Obamacare.
Illegal aliens provide far more benefit to the U.S. economy overall than any cost they add to healthcare. We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not in order to grow and sustain economic growth in this country. Its a demographic reality many people do not understand, largely for ideological and racial reasons.
"We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not"
Illogical. Simply illogical. How long to sing this song?
Its a demographic reality. A growing economy needs more workers. U.S. birth rates are down, and the babyboom population is leaving the workforce. The only way to make up the shortfall is more workers from latin America. Also, past on immigration laws from the past, most of these so called illegals would not be considered illegal.
Life expectancy US - 79.68 - avg. weight for male - 192 pds
Life expectancy UK - 80.54 - avg. weight for male - 184 pds
LOL
Edge is such a child.
Universal Healthcare in the United States would help address that problem.
People in the US are also taller/larger on average...shorter/thinner people live longer. 80 is pretty damn good!
Life expectancy US - 79.68 - avg. weight for male - 192 pds
Life expectancy UK - 80.54 - avg. weight for male - 184 pds
LOL
Edge is such a child.
Universal Healthcare in the United States would help address that problem.
How? My insurance doesn't tell me not eat bad foods? Please explain this. I live in Boston, the best place for healthcare in the WORLD.
Don't be ridiculous. If you remove immigration, our population is growing at a rate of 1.4 million people per year.Your issue is that healthcare is not as strong for the "poor". Agreed? You think it is perfectly fine for the middle class and the wealthy. Correct?
No, its not fine for the middle class and wealthy in the United States although those groups fair better in terms of the overall experience than the poor. The United States is being bankrupted by the way it does healthcare, the for profit healthcare industry. Were spending nearly 5 times on healthcare what we spend on national defense. Healthcare is too expensive, wasteful and provides only marginal benefits in the United States.
Not really. Illegal alien are bankrupting healthcare. That and stupid schemes in Obamacare.
Illegal aliens provide far more benefit to the U.S. economy overall than any cost they add to healthcare. We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not in order to grow and sustain economic growth in this country. Its a demographic reality many people do not understand, largely for ideological and racial reasons.
"We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not"
Illogical. Simply illogical. How long to sing this song?
Its a demographic reality. A growing economy needs more workers. U.S. birth rates are down, and the babyboom population is leaving the workforce. The only way to make up the shortfall is more workers from latin America. Also, past on immigration laws from the past, most of these so called illegals would not be considered illegal.
People in the US are also taller/larger on average...shorter/thinner people live longer. 80 is pretty damn good!
Actually Northern Europeans tend to be taller than Americans. The Dutch on average are the tallest people. They live longer than Americans on average. Italians live longer too, but average they are equal or smaller in terms of height.
No, its not fine for the middle class and wealthy in the United States although those groups fair better in terms of the overall experience than the poor. The United States is being bankrupted by the way it does healthcare, the for profit healthcare industry. Were spending nearly 5 times on healthcare what we spend on national defense. Healthcare is too expensive, wasteful and provides only marginal benefits in the United States.
Not really. Illegal alien are bankrupting healthcare. That and stupid schemes in Obamacare.
Illegal aliens provide far more benefit to the U.S. economy overall than any cost they add to healthcare. We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not in order to grow and sustain economic growth in this country. Its a demographic reality many people do not understand, largely for ideological and racial reasons.
"We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not"
Illogical. Simply illogical. How long to sing this song?
Its a demographic reality. A growing economy needs more workers. U.S. birth rates are down, and the babyboom population is leaving the workforce. The only way to make up the shortfall is more workers from latin America. Also, past on immigration laws from the past, most of these so called illegals would not be considered illegal.
You're not American? Why do you care? I already explained that automation will take care of it.
Life expectancy US - 79.68 - avg. weight for male - 192 pds
Life expectancy UK - 80.54 - avg. weight for male - 184 pds
LOL
Edge is such a child.
Universal Healthcare in the United States would help address that problem.
How? My insurance doesn't tell me not eat bad foods? Please explain this. I live in Boston, the best place for healthcare in the WORLD.
Being able to talk to doctors and healthcare providers and being given access to low cost quality food. That's how. Many people in low income areas don't have very good access to healthcare professionals or low cost high quality food options.
People in the US are also taller/larger on average...shorter/thinner people live longer. 80 is pretty damn good!
Actually Northern Europeans tend to be taller than Americans. The Dutch on average are the tallest people. They live longer than Americans on average. Italians live longer too, but average they are equal or smaller in terms of height.
Wrong. Average height for males in the US is 5'10. Same in Netherlands. They live one year longer. And it is weight not height. Their aveage weight is 185 vs. 192 for the US. Try again. You're losing badly. And the delta is one year. LMAO.
Not really. Illegal alien are bankrupting healthcare. That and stupid schemes in Obamacare.
Illegal aliens provide far more benefit to the U.S. economy overall than any cost they add to healthcare. We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not in order to grow and sustain economic growth in this country. Its a demographic reality many people do not understand, largely for ideological and racial reasons.
"We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not"
Illogical. Simply illogical. How long to sing this song?
Its a demographic reality. A growing economy needs more workers. U.S. birth rates are down, and the babyboom population is leaving the workforce. The only way to make up the shortfall is more workers from latin America. Also, past on immigration laws from the past, most of these so called illegals would not be considered illegal.
You're not American? Why do you care? I already explained that automation will take care of it.
Automation right now is not taking care of the labor shortage in America. That's why we have the lowest unemployment rate in half a century and 7.3 million unfilled jobs. Most economist agree you need increased immigration in order to meet and stay at 3% growth rate for the economy per year. The United States is currently behind that rate.
Average growth in the economy per year has only been 1.9% on average since the year 2000. Technology has not improved economic growth. Economic growth was much higher on average back in the 90s and 80s.
People in the US are also taller/larger on average...shorter/thinner people live longer. 80 is pretty damn good!
Actually Northern Europeans tend to be taller than Americans. The Dutch on average are the tallest people. They live longer than Americans on average. Italians live longer too, but average they are equal or smaller in terms of height.
Wrong. Average height for males in the US is 5'10. Same in Netherlands. They live one year longer. And it is weight not height. Their aveage weight is 185 vs. 192 for the US. Try again. You're losing badly. And the delta is one year. LMAO.
One year is a big difference when your dealing with average life expectancies among large populations. Universal Healthcare can help reduce the obesity problem in the United States.
No one wants economic growth solely so we can accommodate more people. We only want economic growth that improves our standard of living. What's the point if we just give all the new money to immigrants?Not really. Illegal alien are bankrupting healthcare. That and stupid schemes in Obamacare.
Illegal aliens provide far more benefit to the U.S. economy overall than any cost they add to healthcare. We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not in order to grow and sustain economic growth in this country. Its a demographic reality many people do not understand, largely for ideological and racial reasons.
"We need far more latin Americans to come to this country whether they are illegal or not"
Illogical. Simply illogical. How long to sing this song?
Its a demographic reality. A growing economy needs more workers. U.S. birth rates are down, and the babyboom population is leaving the workforce. The only way to make up the shortfall is more workers from latin America. Also, past on immigration laws from the past, most of these so called illegals would not be considered illegal.
You're not American? Why do you care? I already explained that automation will take care of it.
Automation right now is not taking care of the labor shortage in America. That's why we have the lowest unemployment rate in half a century and 7.3 million unfilled jobs. Most economist agree you need increased immigration in order to meet and stay at 3% growth rate for the economy per year. The United States is currently behind that rate.
Average growth in the economy per year has only been 1.9% on average since the year 2000. Technology has not improved economic growth. Economic growth was much higher on average back in the 90s and 80s.
Life expectancy US - 79.68 - avg. weight for male - 192 pds
Life expectancy UK - 80.54 - avg. weight for male - 184 pds
LOL
Edge is such a child.
Universal Healthcare in the United States would help address that problem.
How? My insurance doesn't tell me not eat bad foods? Please explain this. I live in Boston, the best place for healthcare in the WORLD.
Being able to talk to doctors and healthcare providers and being given access to low cost quality food. That's how. Many people in low income areas don't have very good access to healthcare professionals or low cost high quality food options.
You cannot conflate the two. Some of our best hospitals are in questionable areas. People have access. In terms of nutrition it is on you. One can easily spend $5 on rice/beans vs. Big Mac and fries. People here choose to eat poorly. You are losing badly. Very badly. You are unprepared.
Life expectancy US - 79.68 - avg. weight for male - 192 pds
Life expectancy UK - 80.54 - avg. weight for male - 184 pds
LOL
Edge is such a child.
Universal Healthcare in the United States would help address that problem.
How? My insurance doesn't tell me not eat bad foods? Please explain this. I live in Boston, the best place for healthcare in the WORLD.
Being able to talk to doctors and healthcare providers and being given access to low cost quality food. That's how. Many people in low income areas don't have very good access to healthcare professionals or low cost high quality food options.
You cannot conflate the two. Some of our best hospitals are in questionable areas. People have access. In terms of nutrition it is on you. One can easily spend $5 on rice/beans vs. Big Mac and fries. People here choose to eat poorly. You are losing badly. Very badly. You are unprepared.
Its fact that the poor and lower class have lower life expectancies and share a much higher proportion of the nations obesity problem. Universal healthcare could help solve these problems among the poor and lower class and improve overall U.S. life expectancy.
