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The American Miracle...They Called Lincoln everything they are calling Trump...

Attempting to make equivalence between Trump and
Lincoln is a sign of desperation. Trump is no Lincoln.
 
Seems they're bashing him for being too poor, having no experience other than running a small law office, and that he would "disgrace any well bred schoolboy."

Did you mean to type "Obama" in your OP instead of "Trump?"


No......obama hated this country....Lincoln loved this country......and what they said about Lincoln was a lie....he was a very successful lawyer and had actually done a lot of things in his life.....obama had done nothing even with all the advantages he had.....
"Obama hated this country"

Yeah, that's how a comment starts that you know is going to be followed by complete bullshit :rolleyes:


You don't "fundamentally transform" something that you love....
OOPS Lincoln did that.

There goes your entire thread again.


He didn't transform the country....he had to fight the democrats who were trying to do that.....

Umm... the Democrats lost in 1860 big time. Got the same number of electoral votes from the South that Lincoln did --- zero. And Lincoln wasn't even on the ballot there.
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

Oh yeah, that takes me back. I loathed Lincoln for his "I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created" bullshit. I detested his "I'm very humble -- I'm humble in ways you wouldn't even understand" irony. I castigated him for characterizing the Confederacy as "they're rapists". I shouted from the rooftops when Lincoln tweeted "just discovered Buchanan had my wires tapped!". I denounced Lincoln for firing people who were investigating his corruption.

And I screamed bloody murder when he stood on the stage of the Lincoln-Douglas debates talking about the size of his Lincoln Log.

Yeah that takes me back. Good times.. Gettin' kinda misty. Snif.
 
This is what Lincoln had to deal with.......sound familiar to what Trump has to deal with?

Evidence for The Unpopular Mr. Lincoln | Civil War Trust

"The illustrious Honest Old Abe has continued during the last week to make a fool of himself and to mortify and shame the intelligent people of this great nation. His speeches have demonstrated the fact that although originally a Herculean rail splitter and more lately a whimsical story teller and side splitter, he is no more capable of becoming a statesman, nay, even a moderate one, than the braying ass can become a noble lion.

People now marvel how it came to pass that Mr. Lincoln should have been selected as the representative man of any party.

His weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world.

The European powers will despise us because we have no better material out of which to make a President.

The truth is, Lincoln is only a moderate lawyer and in the larger cities of the Union could pass for no more than a facetious pettifogger.

Take him from his vocation and he loses even these small characteristics and indulges in simple twaddle which would disgrace a well bred school boy."


Written as Abraham Lincoln approached Washington by train for his 1861 presidential inauguration, this tirade was not the rant of a fire-eating secessionist editor in Richmond or New Orleans.

It was the declaration of the Salem Advocate, a newspaper printed in Lincoln's home ground of central Illinois.

The Advocate had plenty of company among Northern opinion makers. The editor of Massachusetts's influential Springfield Republican, Samuel Bowles, despaired in a letter to a friend the same week, "Lincoln is a 'simple Susan.'"



You could almost substitute Trump for Lincoln in these comments....and these are the people of his own party....just like the assholes in the Republican party who attack Trump.....

The most esteemed orator in America, Edward Everett, wrote in his diary: "He is evidently a person of very inferior cast of character, wholly unequal to the crisis."


From Washington, Congressman Charles Francis Adams wrote, "His speeches have fallen like a wet blanket here. They put to flight all notions of greatness." Then, at the end of his journey a few days later, Lincoln was forced to sneak into the capital on a secret midnight train to avoid assassination, disguised in a soft felt hat, a muffler and a short bobtailed coat.
Seems they're bashing him for being too poor, having no experience other than running a small law office, and that he would "disgrace any well bred schoolboy."

Did you mean to type "Obama" in your OP instead of "Trump?"


No......obama hated this country....Lincoln loved this country......and what they said about Lincoln was a lie....he was a very successful lawyer and had actually done a lot of things in his life.....obama had done nothing even with all the advantages he had.....

You mean Lincoln actually held a JOB before being elected President? A position where he had to meet somebody else's expectations beyond Numero Uno? A situation where he actually had to bear responsibility for something?

Whelp --- there goes the comparison right there.
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

There is so comparison to Lincoln. A more apt comparison would be Jimmy Carter mixed with Richard Nixon.
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

There is so comparison to Lincoln. A more apt comparison would be Jimmy Carter mixed with Richard Nixon.
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

There is so comparison to Lincoln. A more apt comparison would be Jimmy Carter mixed with Richard Nixon.


No...we aren't comparing personalities or achievments.......the point of this post is to show that Lincoln faced the same viscious attacks against him personally, from his own side that Trump is facing now......and they both faced democrats in a struggle for the soul of the country.....
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

There is so comparison to Lincoln. A more apt comparison would be Jimmy Carter mixed with Richard Nixon.


No...we aren't comparing personalities or achievments.......the point of this post is to show that Lincoln faced the same viscious attacks against him personally, from his own side that Trump is facing now......and they both faced democrats in a struggle for the soul of the country.....

Well then even on those terms it doesn't work. When Lincoln defeated Douglas, the latter travelled around speaking on behalf of the President-elect to make the case for preserving the Union. And then when negotiations were failing advised Lincoln to increase his forces against the Confederacy.

Rump on the other hand hijacked a weak political party with a circus sideshow, complete with "Little Marcos" and "Low energies" and "would anyone vote for that face" and "pathologicals" and the size of his Little Willie and a special Alfred Hitchcock me-me-me entrance. Lincoln did zero of that. So no, no comparison at all.
 
They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

There is so comparison to Lincoln. A more apt comparison would be Jimmy Carter mixed with Richard Nixon.

I don't see either of those. I'm thinking more like Ted Baxter on steroids meets Pee Wee Herman, directed by Gallagher.

Then again there's still this...

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They called Lincoln orange?

They called out Lincoln for whiny 4am tweets?

Did Lincoln like to grab 'em by the pussy? Was he into golden showers at the Ritz Carlton Moscow? Was Lincoln sued for a fraud university that preached "you don't sell solutions -- you sell feelings"? And did he then pay off millions to settle it after vowing he never would?

Was Lincoln going to build a wall around the Confederacy and make the rebels pay for it? Did he invite Russia to dig up dirt on the Democrats so he could win?

Did Lincoln say he would "take out their families"?
Or try to ban and/or deport people according to their religion?

Did Lincoln make noises (and pictures) about boinking his own daughter? Or walk in on young teenage girls in their dressing room? Or start whining about "blood" any time a woman called him out for bullshit?

Did Lincoln take out a full page newspaper ad accusing five blacks of a murder, and continue to flog that horse even after they had been exonerated by DNA evidence?

Did Lincoln make up a fake Time Magazine cover with his picture on it to wank his own ego?

Did Lincoln rape his wife, then divorce her, then marry his mistress, then go browsing on her, then divorce her and marry a third, leaving three separate sets of children?

Did Lincoln invent his own fake press agents to leak stories about his extramarital sexual exploits to the press? And did he then admit to doing it in court, and then later deny that he admitted it?

Did Lincoln claim to have been against the Iraq war, when it was already on the record? Did Lincoln claim to have waged his own "personal Vietnam" by dutifully serving in sex clubs while opting out of the military draft because of "bone spurs" that he can't remember where they were?

Did Lincoln punch out his music teacher?

Did Lincoln sit out the Lincoln-Douglas debates because a woman was going to be there, whining "we'll see what the ratings are" ?

How many times did Lincoln go bankrupt? How many times did he then deny having gone bankrupt?
At least his car is still around, right?

Maybe the OP should spend a bit more time reading about what's going on now instead of pseudo-histories from a movie critic. Just an idea.


You are confirming the whole point of this thread.....assholes like you hated Lincoln at the time....now, assholes like you hate Trump the same way....

There is so comparison to Lincoln. A more apt comparison would be Jimmy Carter mixed with Richard Nixon.


No...we aren't comparing personalities or achievments.......the point of this post is to show that Lincoln faced the same viscious attacks against him personally, from his own side that Trump is facing now......and they both faced democrats in a struggle for the soul of the country.....

So did Obama. Only he faced Republicans in a struggle for the soul of the country....
 
Lincoln freed the slaves.

Trump wants to make us Russia's slaves.

Quite a difference.
 
Lincoln wasn't a retarded racist who colluded with a hostile foreign government.

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trump is an asshole but how is he a racist?
Some Mexicans don't rape.

A Mexican can't be a good judge.

Mrs. Housekeeping referring to a former Hispanic Miss Universe.

I don't want blacks handling my money. I want Jews to handle it.

Lost lawsuits claiming discrimination.

Admits to sexual assault for fun.

Said, referring to the 42,000 Americans who suffered as POW's since 1940, "I like people who weren't captured".

Lost multiple lawsuits for housing discrimination against blacks.

And so much more. All verified. Most on tape you can watch on Youtube.

If by this time, you don't know the things Trump has publicly said, you don't want to know. How do you prove the sky is blue to a blind person? You can't really. What about someone who isn't blind but refuses to look at the sky? Those people are just A$$ Wholes.
 
I am reading through the Lincoln part of Michael Medved's book on America.....The American Miracle....he relates through his research how the governing class at the time called Lincoln all sorts of names...including buffoon and ape.....and these were his own people....they hated the fact that he came almost from nowhere to capture the Presidency.....the hate for him was real.....and the same as the hate you see for Trump.....

Even McClellan, his general wrote to his wife about how he couldn't stand Lincoln....a General who couldn't fight the democrats on the battlefield .......and allowed the democrats to kick his ass in just about every battle....

And then Lincoln led the country through the worst event in our history, when the democrats tried to separate from the Union so they could keep blacks as slaves.....

The first Republican President, fighting his own party and fighting the democrats both in the North and the South......

Eerily familiar....

The American Miracle: Divine Providence in the Rise of the Republic: Michael Medved: 9780553447262: Amazon.com: Patio, Lawn & Garden

This is what Lincoln had to deal with...

McClellan snubs Lincoln - Nov 13, 1861 - HISTORY.com

On this day in 1861, President Abraham Lincoln pays a late night visit to General George McClellan, who Lincoln had recently named general in chief of the Union army. The general retired to his chambers before speaking with the president.

This was the most famous example of McClellan’s cavalier disregard for the president’s authority. Lincoln had tapped McClellan to head the Army of the Potomac—the main Union army in the East—in July 1861 after the disastrous Union defeat at the First Battle of Bull Run, Virginia. McClellan immediately began to build an effective army, and was elevated to general in chief after Winfield Scott resignedthat fall.

Does this sound like too many republicans today.....

McClellan drew praise for his military initiatives but quickly developed a reputation for his arrogance and contempt toward the political leaders in Washington, D.C. After being named to the top army post, McClellan began openly associating with Democratic leaders in Congress and showing his disregard for the Republican administration.




To his wife,McClellan wrote that Lincoln was “nothing more than a well-meaning baboon,” and Secretary of State William Seward was an “incompetent little puppy.”
Conservatives hated Lincoln. Liberals loved him.
In the 19th century, Republicans were the liberal party and the Democrats were conservative, as shown by the fact that Southern people (conservatives) backed Lincoln's rivals while Northern people (liberals) backed Lincoln.
 
Lincoln deserved what he got… Karma is a bitch.

The suspension of habeas corpus is unforgivable…
 

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