The American Miracle...They Called Lincoln everything they are calling Trump...

[AsianTrumpSupporter]

Makes sense. Donald Trump is the biggest threat to the Democrats since Abraham Lincoln.

 

[bripat9643]

We can only hope and pray that the Donald is nothing like the tyrant murderer Lincoln.

Lincoln held the Union together and brought about the end of slavery......he didn't start the war, the democrats did....

Wrong. Lincoln started the war when he invaded Viginia. He didn't "hold" the union together. He held half of it captive. He was a tyrant who wiped his ass on the Constitution.

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[bripat9643]

This is what Lincoln had to deal with.......sound familiar to what Trump has to deal with?

Evidence for The Unpopular Mr. Lincoln | Civil War Trust

"The illustrious Honest Old Abe has continued during the last week to make a fool of himself and to mortify and shame the intelligent people of this great nation. His speeches have demonstrated the fact that although originally a Herculean rail splitter and more lately a whimsical story teller and side splitter, he is no more capable of becoming a statesman, nay, even a moderate one, than the braying ass can become a noble lion.

People now marvel how it came to pass that Mr. Lincoln should have been selected as the representative man of any party.

His weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world.

The European powers will despise us because we have no better material out of which to make a President.

The truth is, Lincoln is only a moderate lawyer and in the larger cities of the Union could pass for no more than a facetious pettifogger.

Take him from his vocation and he loses even these small characteristics and indulges in simple twaddle which would disgrace a well bred school boy."


Written as Abraham Lincoln approached Washington by train for his 1861 presidential inauguration, this tirade was not the rant of a fire-eating secessionist editor in Richmond or New Orleans.

It was the declaration of the Salem Advocate, a newspaper printed in Lincoln's home ground of central Illinois.

The Advocate had plenty of company among Northern opinion makers. The editor of Massachusetts's influential Springfield Republican, Samuel Bowles, despaired in a letter to a friend the same week, "Lincoln is a 'simple Susan.'"


You could almost substitute Trump for Lincoln in these comments....and these are the people of his own party....just like the assholes in the Republican party who attack Trump.....

The most esteemed orator in America, Edward Everett, wrote in his diary: "He is evidently a person of very inferior cast of character, wholly unequal to the crisis."


From Washington, Congressman Charles Francis Adams wrote, "His speeches have fallen like a wet blanket here. They put to flight all notions of greatness." Then, at the end of his journey a few days later, Lincoln was forced to sneak into the capital on a secret midnight train to avoid assassination, disguised in a soft felt hat, a muffler and a short bobtailed coat.

Seems they're bashing him for being too poor, having no experience other than running a small law office, and that he would "disgrace any well bred schoolboy."

Did you mean to type "Obama" in your OP instead of "Trump?"

No......obama hated this country....Lincoln loved this country......and what they said about Lincoln was a lie....he was a very successful lawyer and had actually done a lot of things in his life.....obama had done nothing even with all the advantages he had.....

"Obama hated this country"

Yeah, that's how a comment starts that you know is going to be followed by complete bullshit

You don't "fundamentally transform" something that you love....

OOPS Lincoln did that.

There goes your entire thread again.

Yep, snd Linoln was a tyrant who destroyed his country.

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[Pogo]

I am reading through the Lincoln part of Michael Medved's book on America.....The American Miracle....he relates through his research how the governing class at the time called Lincoln all sorts of names...including buffoon and ape.....and these were his own people....they hated the fact that he came almost from nowhere to capture the Presidency.....the hate for him was real.....and the same as the hate you see for Trump.....

Even McClellan, his general wrote to his wife about how he couldn't stand Lincoln....a General who couldn't fight the democrats on the battlefield .......and allowed the democrats to kick his ass in just about every battle....

And then Lincoln led the country through the worst event in our history, when the democrats tried to separate from the Union so they could keep blacks as slaves.....

The first Republican President, fighting his own party and fighting the democrats both in the North and the South......

Eerily familiar....

The American Miracle: Divine Providence in the Rise of the Republic: Michael Medved: 9780553447262: Amazon.com: Patio, Lawn & Garden

This is what Lincoln had to deal with...

McClellan snubs Lincoln - Nov 13, 1861 - HISTORY.com

On this day in 1861, President Abraham Lincoln pays a late night visit to General George McClellan, who Lincoln had recently named general in chief of the Union army. The general retired to his chambers before speaking with the president.

This was the most famous example of McClellan’s cavalier disregard for the president’s authority. Lincoln had tapped McClellan to head the Army of the Potomac—the main Union army in the East—in July 1861 after the disastrous Union defeat at the First Battle of Bull Run, Virginia. McClellan immediately began to build an effective army, and was elevated to general in chief after Winfield Scott resignedthat fall.

Does this sound like too many republicans today.....

McClellan drew praise for his military initiatives but quickly developed a reputation for his arrogance and contempt toward the political leaders in Washington, D.C. After being named to the top army post, McClellan began openly associating with Democratic leaders in Congress and showing his disregard for the Republican administration.




To his wife,McClellan wrote that Lincoln was “nothing more than a well-meaning baboon,” and Secretary of State William Seward was an “incompetent little puppy.”

Conservatives hated Lincoln. Liberals loved him.
In the 19th century, Republicans were the liberal party and the Democrats were conservative, as shown by the fact that Southern people (conservatives) backed Lincoln's rivals while Northern people (liberals) backed Lincoln.

Matter of fact, around here in the later 19th century at least, the Democratic Party was literally called the "Conservative Party". Political rivals Merrimon and Vance were both part of it in the 1870s.

>> After the war, Merrimon served as a state superior court judge, then returned to the practice of law, and was an unsuccessful Democratic (at the time, officially called the Conservative Party) candidate for Governor of North Carolina in 1872. With 49.5 percent of the vote, Merrimon lost an extremely close race to incumbent Tod R. Caldwell. [1]

Merrimon was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1872. He and former Gov. Zebulon B. Vance had already become intense political enemies, though both were affiliated with the Conservative Party. After Vance won the endorsement of the Conservative Party in the legislature, the minority Republicans in the legislature voted with Merrimon's supporters to elect him to the Senate (New York Times, October 14, 1878). << (Wiki-Merrimon)​

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Lincoln was a buffoon, and an Ape.

Why else would he get so many Americans killed?

 

[regent]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

 

[2aguy]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

No, democrat historians ignore Lincoln because he made them give up their black slaves....

 

[regent]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

No, democrat historians ignore Lincoln because he made them give up their black slaves....

Historians, Democratic and Republicans. rate Lincoln among the top three presidents. It doesn't seem to be the historians that ignore Lincoln but Republican posters on these boards. If true, why is that?

 

[Rustic]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

No, democrat historians ignore Lincoln because he made them give up their black slaves....

Historians, Democratic and Republicans. rate Lincoln among the top three presidents. It doesn't seem to be the historians that ignore Lincoln but Republican posters on these boards. If true, why is that?

Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable. Thr federal government never should have that type of power…

 

[regent]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

No, democrat historians ignore Lincoln because he made them give up their black slaves....

Historians, Democratic and Republicans. rate Lincoln among the top three presidents. It doesn't seem to be the historians that ignore Lincoln but Republican posters on these boards. If true, why is that?

Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable. Thr federal government never should have that type of power…

So the framers gave the presidents that power and Lincoln used it.

 

[Rustic]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

No, democrat historians ignore Lincoln because he made them give up their black slaves....

Historians, Democratic and Republicans. rate Lincoln among the top three presidents. It doesn't seem to be the historians that ignore Lincoln but Republican posters on these boards. If true, why is that?

Lincoln suspended habeas corpus… Unforgivable. Thr federal government never should have that type of power…

So the framers gave the presidents that power and Lincoln used it.

...and Lincoln deserved what he got, a hole in the head

 

[rightwinger]

They called Lincoln an orange pussygrabber?

 

[bendog]

Wrong comparison. OP should look up what was said about Jefferson Davis instead.

Jefferson Davis was a patriot and defender of the Bill of Rights and personal property rights.

Lincoln rewrote our understanding of the Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights to not only "all men (and everyone else eventually) being created equally to somehow every deserving a chance to succeed in life based on their individual merit rather than family money. We in the GOP are removing that eyesore from history and remaking this country in the image the Founders had and Jefferson Davis strove to protect. Hail the Kochs!

 

[Theowl32]

The reason John Wilkes Booth truly believed he was going to be received as a hero, was the level of hatred everyone had for him.

Lincoln was referred to as a moron, a great divider, a wonger.

Booth could not wait to read the story in the paper of his assassination. That was the reason he boasted about his plans. After a Lincoln speech he reportedly declared that was the last speech he will ever make. He even yelled that line..."sic semper tyrannis" in a theatrical way.

A lot of Hollywood actors would truly believe they would be regarded as a great hero if they killed Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

So this is why Republicans ignore Lincoln when presidents are rated by historians.

No, democrat historians ignore Lincoln because he made them give up their black slaves....

Historians, Democratic and Republicans. rate Lincoln among the top three presidents. It doesn't seem to be the historians that ignore Lincoln but Republican posters on these boards. If true, why is that?

If they were in Russia they would rate Stalin as the top Soviet leader. Historians love dictators.

 

[Syriusly]

I am reading through the Lincoln part of Michael Medved's book on America.....The American Miracle....he relates through his research how the governing class at the time called Lincoln all sorts of names...including buffoon and ape.....and these were his own people....they hated the fact that he came almost from nowhere to capture the Presidency.....the hate for him was real.....and the same as the hate you see for Trump.....

Even McClellan, his general wrote to his wife about how he couldn't stand Lincoln....a General who couldn't fight the democrats on the battlefield .......and allowed the democrats to kick his ass in just about every battle....

And then Lincoln led the country through the worst event in our history, when the democrats tried to separate from the Union so they could keep blacks as slaves.....

The first Republican President, fighting his own party and fighting the democrats both in the North and the South......

Eerily familiar....

The American Miracle: Divine Providence in the Rise of the Republic: Michael Medved: 9780553447262: Amazon.com: Patio, Lawn & Garden

This is what Lincoln had to deal with...

McClellan snubs Lincoln - Nov 13, 1861 - HISTORY.com

On this day in 1861, President Abraham Lincoln pays a late night visit to General George McClellan, who Lincoln had recently named general in chief of the Union army. The general retired to his chambers before speaking with the president.

This was the most famous example of McClellan’s cavalier disregard for the president’s authority. Lincoln had tapped McClellan to head the Army of the Potomac—the main Union army in the East—in July 1861 after the disastrous Union defeat at the First Battle of Bull Run, Virginia. McClellan immediately began to build an effective army, and was elevated to general in chief after Winfield Scott resignedthat fall.

Does this sound like too many republicans today.....

McClellan drew praise for his military initiatives but quickly developed a reputation for his arrogance and contempt toward the political leaders in Washington, D.C. After being named to the top army post, McClellan began openly associating with Democratic leaders in Congress and showing his disregard for the Republican administration.




To his wife,McClellan wrote that Lincoln was “nothing more than a well-meaning baboon,” and Secretary of State William Seward was an “incompetent little puppy.”

LOL but...but...but- Lincoln was a racist!

You are supposed to hate Lincoln because Lincoln was a racists....oh wait you only do that when the racist is a Democrat.

LOL

What an idiot- comparing Lincoln to Trump.

 

[Kondor3]

I am reading through the Lincoln part of Michael Medved's book on America.....The American Miracle....he relates through his research how the governing class at the time called Lincoln all sorts of names...including buffoon and ape.....and these were his own people....they hated the fact that he came almost from nowhere to capture the Presidency.....the hate for him was real.....and the same as the hate you see for Trump.....

Even McClellan, his general wrote to his wife about how he couldn't stand Lincoln....a General who couldn't fight the democrats on the battlefield .......and allowed the democrats to kick his ass in just about every battle....

And then Lincoln led the country through the worst event in our history, when the democrats tried to separate from the Union so they could keep blacks as slaves.....

The first Republican President, fighting his own party and fighting the democrats both in the North and the South......

Eerily familiar....

The American Miracle: Divine Providence in the Rise of the Republic: Michael Medved: 9780553447262: Amazon.com: Patio, Lawn & Garden

This is what Lincoln had to deal with...

McClellan snubs Lincoln - Nov 13, 1861 - HISTORY.com

On this day in 1861, President Abraham Lincoln pays a late night visit to General George McClellan, who Lincoln had recently named general in chief of the Union army. The general retired to his chambers before speaking with the president.

This was the most famous example of McClellan’s cavalier disregard for the president’s authority. Lincoln had tapped McClellan to head the Army of the Potomac—the main Union army in the East—in July 1861 after the disastrous Union defeat at the First Battle of Bull Run, Virginia. McClellan immediately began to build an effective army, and was elevated to general in chief after Winfield Scott resignedthat fall.

Does this sound like too many republicans today.....

McClellan drew praise for his military initiatives but quickly developed a reputation for his arrogance and contempt toward the political leaders in Washington, D.C. After being named to the top army post, McClellan began openly associating with Democratic leaders in Congress and showing his disregard for the Republican administration.




To his wife,McClellan wrote that Lincoln was “nothing more than a well-meaning baboon,” and Secretary of State William Seward was an “incompetent little puppy.”

You conflate Abraham Lincoln with Donald Trump?

What are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing?

 

[Syriusly]

We can only hope and pray that the Donald is nothing like the tyrant murderer Lincoln.

Lincoln held the Union together and brought about the end of slavery......he didn't start the war, the democrats did....

Correction- Southern White Democrat males started the war.

Millions of Northern white Democrats supported the Union.

 

[Syriusly]

This is what Lincoln had to deal with.......sound familiar to what Trump has to deal with?

Evidence for The Unpopular Mr. Lincoln | Civil War Trust

"The illustrious Honest Old Abe has continued during the last week to make a fool of himself and to mortify and shame the intelligent people of this great nation. His speeches have demonstrated the fact that although originally a Herculean rail splitter and more lately a whimsical story teller and side splitter, he is no more capable of becoming a statesman, nay, even a moderate one, than the braying ass can become a noble lion.

People now marvel how it came to pass that Mr. Lincoln should have been selected as the representative man of any party.

His weak, wishy-washy, namby-pamby efforts, imbecile in matter, disgusting in manner, have made us the laughing stock of the whole world.

The European powers will despise us because we have no better material out of which to make a President.

The truth is, Lincoln is only a moderate lawyer and in the larger cities of the Union could pass for no more than a facetious pettifogger.

Take him from his vocation and he loses even these small characteristics and indulges in simple twaddle which would disgrace a well bred school boy."


Written as Abraham Lincoln approached Washington by train for his 1861 presidential inauguration, this tirade was not the rant of a fire-eating secessionist editor in Richmond or New Orleans.

It was the declaration of the Salem Advocate, a newspaper printed in Lincoln's home ground of central Illinois.

The Advocate had plenty of company among Northern opinion makers. The editor of Massachusetts's influential Springfield Republican, Samuel Bowles, despaired in a letter to a friend the same week, "Lincoln is a 'simple Susan.'"


You could almost substitute Trump for Lincoln in these comments....and these are the people of his own party....just like the assholes in the Republican party who attack Trump.....

The most esteemed orator in America, Edward Everett, wrote in his diary: "He is evidently a person of very inferior cast of character, wholly unequal to the crisis."


From Washington, Congressman Charles Francis Adams wrote, "His speeches have fallen like a wet blanket here. They put to flight all notions of greatness." Then, at the end of his journey a few days later, Lincoln was forced to sneak into the capital on a secret midnight train to avoid assassination, disguised in a soft felt hat, a muffler and a short bobtailed coat.

You think Trump had a rough 6 months.....?

After Lincoln's unseemly arrival, the contempt in the nation's reaction was so widespread, so vicious and so personal that it marks this episode as the historic low point of presidential prestige in the United States.

Even the Northern press winced at the president's undignified start.

Vanity Fair observed, "By the advice of weak men, who should straddle through life in petticoats instead of disgracing such manly garments as pantaloons and coats, the President-elect disguises himself after the manner of heroes in two-shilling novels, and rides secretly, in the deep night, from Harrisburg to Washington."

The Brooklyn Eagle, in a column titled "Mr. Lincoln's Flight by Moonlight Alone," suggested the president deserved "the deepest disgrace that the crushing indignation of a whole people can inflict." The New York Tribune joked darkly, "Mr. Lincoln may live a hundred years without having so good a chance to die."

Wow- sounds just like how you talked about President Obama.

 

[Syriusly]

So you are saying Trump should put his big boy pants on, and stop whining....?

No...I am pointing out that sometimes men who are reviled by idiots, are those leaders who actually make a difference in nations history, especially when the future of the country is on the line.......

So that explains why you reviled President Obama......

I just don't remember President Lincoln ever telling the press how unfair everyone has been to him.

Or Lincoln claiming he would have won the popular vote if wasn't for those millions of illegal votes.