The answer to the Southern border problem....

[Carl in Michigan]

The answer to the Southern border problem....

Take Mexico in as our 51st state

Just a suggestion
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Hell no!

 

[danielpalos]

It's been awhile since I was out of country but do remember especially in the Carabean that US agents were stationed in countries to check passports and to make sure you were who you said you were and would not let you leave that Carabean country for America until everything was right...It seems the U.S. could have ONE office at a port of entry IN MEXICO, with say 20 judges to hear cases and perhaps another 20 to adjudicate a person before entry....keep Foreigners in Mexico until their appeals are heard....Mexico, on the other hand could make it difficult for Latin Americans to get this far north and prevent having THOUSANDS of now unwanted , unruly, diseased, and criminal aliens from piling up in their country.... a WALL would certainly help them in controlling these people as word gets back that it is almost impossible to get here ...your thoughts!

Our welfare clause is general, not common and we have a commerce clause. Why are we losing money on border policy?

 

[Crepitus]

Abolish all the trappings of the welfare state....Then any immigrants would be here to work and not mooch.

Not just cheaper than the wall, but it would actually free up money.

I thought you kids were afraid they'd "take yer jobs!"?

If you ever had one you might be concerned yourself bed wetter.

Lol, am I supposed to be insulted? You don't know me, or whether I'm employed or not.

You are desperately reaching for a way to get at me because you know you are in the wrong,, and you aren't very bright so this is the best you can do.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That certainly sounds like more COMMIE LEFTIST BULLSHIT to me. It has been a few decades since we actively interfered in Latin America,

It's true Bush took his evil eye off Central America when he launched Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL), but that was quickly remedied by his successor:

"The US role in the Honduras coup and subsequent violence..."

The US role in the Honduras coup and subsequent violence

"The leader of the (2009) coup, Honduran General Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, was a graduate of the notorious School of the Americas, a U.S. Army training program nicknamed 'School of Assassins' for the sizable number of graduates who have engaged in coups, as well as the torture and murder of political opponents.

"The training of coup plotters at the program, since renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, isn’t a bygone feature of the Cold War:"

And THIS has what to do with illegal Immigrants coming here for free shit?

Learn some history.

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

"Oglesby spoke to me from Guatemala, which even today is still feeling the cumulative effects of US actions from over 50 years ago.

"In the 1950s, Guatemala attempted to end exploitative labor practices and give land to Mayan Indians in the highlands.

"The move, according to now-unclassified CIA documents, threatened US interests like the United Fruit Company, which controlled a good portion of land in Guatemala.

" But instead of citing economic factors, many in the US cried 'communism,' saying the labor reforms were a threat to democracy. Wisconsin Senator Alexander Wiley, chair of the Foreign Relations Committee at the time, said he believed that a 'Communist octopus' had used its tentacles to control events in Guatemala.

"In 1954, the CIA helped organize a military coup to overthrow Guatemala’s democratically elected government, and continued to train the Guatemalan military well into the 70s."

US inspired violence in Central America in the 50s and 80s has never completely abated. It is driving much of the migration Trump and his Twinkies are WHINING about today.

Tough titty. I live here, it's my country, and I won't accept a revenge package for something I had nothing to do with anymore than I'll accept paying reparations for slavery.

There it is.

You're conflating revenge with justice.

As US citizens, your lifestyle and mine would not exist in their present state of relative affluence without a century of free labor (slavery) and US interference in the political economies of other sovereign states like Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala:

Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954 — Central Intelligence Agency

"In the late Cold War period and since, however, the American overthrow of the Arbenz government came to be widely seen as shameful.

"This is mostly because the governments that followed the 1954 coup in the subsequent five decades were far more repressive than Arbenz's elective government.

"Even intelligence scholar Christopher Andrew, an Eisenhower admirer, describes the Guatemala affair as a 'disreputable moment'--Eisenhower was 'directly responsible' for 'death and destruction,' yet showed no signs of embarrassment then or later over his 'bullying of a banana republic.'

"A culminating moment in the evolving historical memory of the United States and Guatemala in 1954 came in 1999, when President Clinton visited Guatemala and said, 'Support for military forces and intelligence units which engaged in violence and widespread repression was wrong, and the United States must not repeat that mistake."'3

"Aside from morality, there were other unfortunate legacies of the Guatemalan 'success:' Allen Dulles used it as a model in advising President Kennedy seven years later to pursue the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba."

Newsflash dumbass! It is 2018, not 1954!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

That certainly sounds like more COMMIE LEFTIST BULLSHIT to me. It has been a few decades since we actively interfered in Latin America,

It's true Bush took his evil eye off Central America when he launched Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL), but that was quickly remedied by his successor:

"The US role in the Honduras coup and subsequent violence..."

The US role in the Honduras coup and subsequent violence

"The leader of the (2009) coup, Honduran General Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, was a graduate of the notorious School of the Americas, a U.S. Army training program nicknamed 'School of Assassins' for the sizable number of graduates who have engaged in coups, as well as the torture and murder of political opponents.

"The training of coup plotters at the program, since renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, isn’t a bygone feature of the Cold War:"

And THIS has what to do with illegal Immigrants coming here for free shit?

Learn some history.

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

"Oglesby spoke to me from Guatemala, which even today is still feeling the cumulative effects of US actions from over 50 years ago.

"In the 1950s, Guatemala attempted to end exploitative labor practices and give land to Mayan Indians in the highlands.

"The move, according to now-unclassified CIA documents, threatened US interests like the United Fruit Company, which controlled a good portion of land in Guatemala.

" But instead of citing economic factors, many in the US cried 'communism,' saying the labor reforms were a threat to democracy. Wisconsin Senator Alexander Wiley, chair of the Foreign Relations Committee at the time, said he believed that a 'Communist octopus' had used its tentacles to control events in Guatemala.

"In 1954, the CIA helped organize a military coup to overthrow Guatemala’s democratically elected government, and continued to train the Guatemalan military well into the 70s."

US inspired violence in Central America in the 50s and 80s has never completely abated. It is driving much of the migration Trump and his Twinkies are WHINING about today.

Tough titty. I live here, it's my country, and I won't accept a revenge package for something I had nothing to do with anymore than I'll accept paying reparations for slavery.

There it is.

You're conflating revenge with justice.

As US citizens, your lifestyle and mine would not exist in their present state of relative affluence without a century of free labor (slavery) and US interference in the political economies of other sovereign states like Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala:

Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954 — Central Intelligence Agency

"In the late Cold War period and since, however, the American overthrow of the Arbenz government came to be widely seen as shameful.

"This is mostly because the governments that followed the 1954 coup in the subsequent five decades were far more repressive than Arbenz's elective government.

"Even intelligence scholar Christopher Andrew, an Eisenhower admirer, describes the Guatemala affair as a 'disreputable moment'--Eisenhower was 'directly responsible' for 'death and destruction,' yet showed no signs of embarrassment then or later over his 'bullying of a banana republic.'

"A culminating moment in the evolving historical memory of the United States and Guatemala in 1954 came in 1999, when President Clinton visited Guatemala and said, 'Support for military forces and intelligence units which engaged in violence and widespread repression was wrong, and the United States must not repeat that mistake."'3

"Aside from morality, there were other unfortunate legacies of the Guatemalan 'success:' Allen Dulles used it as a model in advising President Kennedy seven years later to pursue the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba."

I don't care.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Our welfare clause is general, not common and we have a commerce clause. Why are we losing money on border policy?

Well, trump just spent $200 million ($2,000,000) protecting our southern border on a one nights stand, from a group of mothers and their children walking from central America to the USA. They still have over a thousand (1,000) miles to walk before they even get here & besides, 2% of them won't make it anyway.

So what's the rush--[?

just asking -

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Just reported (FOX) that members of the caravan are planning to rush the border this weekend.

Lock and load.

 

[danielpalos]

Our welfare clause is general, not common and we have a commerce clause. Why are we losing money on border policy?

Well, trump just spent $200 million ($2,000,000) protecting our southern border on a one nights stand, from a group of mothers and their children walking from central america to the USA. They still have over a thousand (1,000) miles to walk before they even get here & besides, 2% of them won't make it anyway.

So what's the rush--[?

just asking -

upgrading Ellis Island is more cost effective.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Our welfare clause is general, not common and we have a commerce clause. Why are we losing money on border policy?

Well, trump just spent $200 million ($2,000,000) protecting our southern border on a one nights stand, from a group of mothers and their children walking from central america to the USA. They still have over a thousand (1,000) miles to walk before they even get here & besides, 2% of them won't make it anyway.

So what's the rush--[?

just asking -

upgrading Ellis Island is more cost effective.

Sending them all back is even more cost effective.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Just reported (FOX) that members of the caravan are planning to rush the border this weekend.

Lock and load.

Trump will close the border. This time the entire border.

 

[Anathema]

Just reported (FOX) that members of the caravan are planning to rush the border this weekend.

Lock and load.

Should be a free fire zone and a target rich environment.

 

[August West]

It's true Bush took his evil eye off Central America when he launched Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL), but that was quickly remedied by his successor:

"The US role in the Honduras coup and subsequent violence..."

The US role in the Honduras coup and subsequent violence

"The leader of the (2009) coup, Honduran General Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, was a graduate of the notorious School of the Americas, a U.S. Army training program nicknamed 'School of Assassins' for the sizable number of graduates who have engaged in coups, as well as the torture and murder of political opponents.

"The training of coup plotters at the program, since renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation, isn’t a bygone feature of the Cold War:"

And THIS has what to do with illegal Immigrants coming here for free shit?

Learn some history.

The Violence Central American Migrants Are Fleeing Was Stoked by the US

"Oglesby spoke to me from Guatemala, which even today is still feeling the cumulative effects of US actions from over 50 years ago.

"In the 1950s, Guatemala attempted to end exploitative labor practices and give land to Mayan Indians in the highlands.

"The move, according to now-unclassified CIA documents, threatened US interests like the United Fruit Company, which controlled a good portion of land in Guatemala.

" But instead of citing economic factors, many in the US cried 'communism,' saying the labor reforms were a threat to democracy. Wisconsin Senator Alexander Wiley, chair of the Foreign Relations Committee at the time, said he believed that a 'Communist octopus' had used its tentacles to control events in Guatemala.

"In 1954, the CIA helped organize a military coup to overthrow Guatemala’s democratically elected government, and continued to train the Guatemalan military well into the 70s."

US inspired violence in Central America in the 50s and 80s has never completely abated. It is driving much of the migration Trump and his Twinkies are WHINING about today.

Tough titty. I live here, it's my country, and I won't accept a revenge package for something I had nothing to do with anymore than I'll accept paying reparations for slavery.

There it is.

You're conflating revenge with justice.

As US citizens, your lifestyle and mine would not exist in their present state of relative affluence without a century of free labor (slavery) and US interference in the political economies of other sovereign states like Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala:

Congress, the CIA, and Guatemala, 1954 — Central Intelligence Agency

"In the late Cold War period and since, however, the American overthrow of the Arbenz government came to be widely seen as shameful.

"This is mostly because the governments that followed the 1954 coup in the subsequent five decades were far more repressive than Arbenz's elective government.

"Even intelligence scholar Christopher Andrew, an Eisenhower admirer, describes the Guatemala affair as a 'disreputable moment'--Eisenhower was 'directly responsible' for 'death and destruction,' yet showed no signs of embarrassment then or later over his 'bullying of a banana republic.'

"A culminating moment in the evolving historical memory of the United States and Guatemala in 1954 came in 1999, when President Clinton visited Guatemala and said, 'Support for military forces and intelligence units which engaged in violence and widespread repression was wrong, and the United States must not repeat that mistake."'3

"Aside from morality, there were other unfortunate legacies of the Guatemalan 'success:' Allen Dulles used it as a model in advising President Kennedy seven years later to pursue the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba."

Newsflash dumbass! It is 2018, not 1954!

Guatemala has had a steady stream of nasty dictators since we installed the first one. What happened in 1954 is very relevant today.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Something has to be done to stop the organizers and prevent them from creating these caravans.

No. This is not the result of the CIA. US actions in 1954 has nothing to do with the caravans. They are created by open borders propaganda. They are being promised money. The Hondurans were told that hundreds of American employers were waiting for them in Tijuana to hire and take them across the border. The joke's on the invaders.

 

[August West]

Something has to be done to stop the organizers and prevent them from creating these caravans.

No. This is not the result of the CIA. US actions in 1954 has nothing to do with the caravans. They are created by open borders propaganda. They are being promised money. The Hondurans were told that hundreds of American employers were waiting for them in Tijuana to hire and take them across the border. The joke's on the invaders.

Open borders propaganda is GOP propaganda. The borders are not and never have been open so maybe you people should stop telling the migrants that our borders are open. You`re inviting them here dumbass!

 

[watchingfromafar]

The Hondurans were told that hundreds of American employers were waiting for them in Tijuana to hire and take them across the border.

That's interesting if true. Since I don't know you would you please provide your source.
Now, this is just a friendly request. no animosity intended or implied
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[danielpalos]

Our welfare clause is general, not common and we have a commerce clause. Why are we losing money on border policy?

Well, trump just spent $200 million ($2,000,000) protecting our southern border on a one nights stand, from a group of mothers and their children walking from central america to the USA. They still have over a thousand (1,000) miles to walk before they even get here & besides, 2% of them won't make it anyway.

So what's the rush--[?

just asking -

upgrading Ellis Island is more cost effective.

Sending them all back is even more cost effective.

Only if Government solves all problems for the right wing.

 

[danielpalos]

Something has to be done to stop the organizers and prevent them from creating these caravans.

No. This is not the result of the CIA. US actions in 1954 has nothing to do with the caravans. They are created by open borders propaganda. They are being promised money. The Hondurans were told that hundreds of American employers were waiting for them in Tijuana to hire and take them across the border. The joke's on the invaders.

lol. our drug war is simply Government "solving all problems" for the right wing.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Our welfare clause is general, not common and we have a commerce clause. Why are we losing money on border policy?

Well, trump just spent $200 million ($2,000,000) protecting our southern border on a one nights stand, from a group of mothers and their children walking from central America to the USA. They still have over a thousand (1,000) miles to walk before they even get here & besides, 2% of them won't make it anyway.

So what's the rush--[?

just asking -

Mothers and children?

When you wake up from this pipe dream, give us a shout and maybe you will realize how much a of a dumbass you are!

 

[pismoe]

and it would not make a difference if they were all third world , mamasitas , mothers and children . American Mothers and Children are more important to me eh ??

 

[Carl in Michigan]

will close the border. This time the entire border.

Good Allah, it seems like Trump against the world!

The People are with him on this. The politicians better understand that!