The Belief That Life Was the Result of an Accident Is Unscientific

[edthecynic]

Why do atoms write music and watch funny cat videos?

Because they can!

 

[Weatherman2020]

That’s the issue. No one can answer why elements of the periodic table writes music.

Because they dont. Atoms and bonded atoms don’t care. They are not sentient.

Which means life is something beyond what we can detect.

Because someone hasnt explained it to you...

because youve proven its impossible to explain beyond the shadow of a doubt



^ which is more accurate of the above two statements.

You just mocked the belief in God because you don’t see evidence. And now you claim the basis for sentience does not need to be proven because you know it’s not from a creator.

You’re arguing against yourself.

BTW - the OP screams the evidence of a creator. You simply refuse to acknowledge it because it blows your belief system apart.

I didnt say "the basis for sentience does not need to be proven."


You are wrong.

OK.
Then why does life exist? If all that we are are the elements listed, I think we can agree that does not explain why.

Right?

I DONT KNOW that sentience isnt adequatly explained via biology - so why would I AGREE with that comment?

I dont operate that way.

What your doing here is saying "because it hasnt been explained to me, its not possible."

IM NOT doing that regarding a creator. If I didnt think one was "possible," Id be an atheist.... and not an agnostic.

Its possible, its just not been proven to me.


Same as sentience coming from a conglomeration of the periodic table (which is probably a malformed question to begin with....but Id defer to a biologist).......just because nobodys yet explained it to you doesnt make it impossible.

So you’re open to the possibility that the pencil on your desk may get up and do the cha-cha?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why do atoms write music and watch funny cat videos?

Because they can!

Interesting belief system thinking that atoms in your chair are interested in listening to Johnny Cash.

 

[alang1216]

Why is there life?

We are all just remnants of a huge explosion, right? What in science tells you chaos naturally evolves into order and atoms care about anything?

The trillions of atoms that self-organized themselves into a salt crystal that I put on my lunch didn't care about how I like my food but did it anyway because the conditions at the time were right. Life arose because the conditions were right. How is not known but there are plenty of theories (see Abiogenesis) or last months Scientific American.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Tell us how these atoms have combined.

You do know you are telling us the Periodic table is wrong and obsolete, don't you?

Atoms combine according to the number of electrons in their outer shell, called valence electrons. Nothing random about it, therefore it is YOU who are contradicting the periodic table which is arranged in groups according to their valence electrons.

And the price of tea in China went up.

So you can't rebut my reply.
Thank you.

No, you’re off topic.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Why is there life?

We are all just remnants of a huge explosion, right? What in science tells you chaos naturally evolves into order and atoms care about anything?

The trillions of atoms that self-organized themselves into a salt crystal that I put on my lunch didn't care about how I like my food but did it anyway because the conditions at the time were right. Life arose because the conditions were right. How is not known but there are plenty of theories (see Abiogenesis) or last months Scientific American.

Why would a carbon atom care? It’s the same in a thousand years wether it’s in my body or floating in the air.

 

[edthecynic]

Creator exists outside the flow of time since the Creator created time itself.

Time began at the Big Bang.

 

[G.T.]

Because someone hasnt explained it to you...

because youve proven its impossible to explain beyond the shadow of a doubt



^ which is more accurate of the above two statements.

You just mocked the belief in God because you don’t see evidence. And now you claim the basis for sentience does not need to be proven because you know it’s not from a creator.

You’re arguing against yourself.

BTW - the OP screams the evidence of a creator. You simply refuse to acknowledge it because it blows your belief system apart.

I didnt say "the basis for sentience does not need to be proven."


You are wrong.

OK.
Then why does life exist? If all that we are are the elements listed, I think we can agree that does not explain why.

Right?

I DONT KNOW that sentience isnt adequatly explained via biology - so why would I AGREE with that comment?

I dont operate that way.

What your doing here is saying "because it hasnt been explained to me, its not possible."

IM NOT doing that regarding a creator. If I didnt think one was "possible," Id be an atheist.... and not an agnostic.

Its possible, its just not been proven to me.


Same as sentience coming from a conglomeration of the periodic table (which is probably a malformed question to begin with....but Id defer to a biologist).......just because nobodys yet explained it to you doesnt make it impossible.

So you’re open to the possibility that the pencil on your desk may get up and do the cha-cha?

No, because gravity is a concept thats been explained to me adequately...and I know the composition of a pencil does not express those traits.

lol the fakk

 

[JimBowie1958]

Life arose because the conditions were right. How is not known but there are plenty of theories (see Abiogenesis) or last months Scientific American.

So why ASSUME that it was merely because the conditions were right?

And why havent any of those theories been proven? Because Science cannot prove the answer to 'why' anyway.

 

[alang1216]

Why would a carbon atom care? It’s the same in a thousand years wether it’s in my body or floating in the air.

Silly question as you well know but it is also a straw man if you're asking about the creation of life.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bonding is what you are talking about.

Tell us what atoms have bonded that are sentient.

The atoms YOU listed in your OP. DUH!

The atoms are not sentient, doofus.

 

[edthecynic]

Tell us how these atoms have combined.

You do know you are telling us the Periodic table is wrong and obsolete, don't you?

Atoms combine according to the number of electrons in their outer shell, called valence electrons. Nothing random about it, therefore it is YOU who are contradicting the periodic table which is arranged in groups according to their valence electrons.

And the price of tea in China went up.

So you can't rebut my reply.
Thank you.

No, you’re off topic.

No, valence electrons prove molecular life is NO accident, as YOU falsely claim in your own title of this thread.
You can't rebut that fact so you dodge by claiming it is off topic.
Thank you again!

 

[Weatherman2020]

You just mocked the belief in God because you don’t see evidence. And now you claim the basis for sentience does not need to be proven because you know it’s not from a creator.

You’re arguing against yourself.

BTW - the OP screams the evidence of a creator. You simply refuse to acknowledge it because it blows your belief system apart.

I didnt say "the basis for sentience does not need to be proven."


You are wrong.

OK.
Then why does life exist? If all that we are are the elements listed, I think we can agree that does not explain why.

Right?

I DONT KNOW that sentience isnt adequatly explained via biology - so why would I AGREE with that comment?

I dont operate that way.

What your doing here is saying "because it hasnt been explained to me, its not possible."

IM NOT doing that regarding a creator. If I didnt think one was "possible," Id be an atheist.... and not an agnostic.

Its possible, its just not been proven to me.


Same as sentience coming from a conglomeration of the periodic table (which is probably a malformed question to begin with....but Id defer to a biologist).......just because nobodys yet explained it to you doesnt make it impossible.

So you’re open to the possibility that the pencil on your desk may get up and do the cha-cha?

No, because gravity is a concept thats been explained to me adequately...and I know the composition of a pencil does not express those traits.

lol the fakk

You obviously have the reason why elements are sentient explained to well enough as to know why this is and is not, so why don’t you share with the class.

 

[edthecynic]

Bonding is what you are talking about.
Tell us what atoms have bonded that are sentient.

The atoms YOU listed in your OP. DUH!

The atoms are not sentient, doofus.

But the atoms BONDED into a human ARE sentient.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I never said the basis of sentience doesnt need to be proven....I said ask a biologist.

Lol, an Appeal to Ignorance with Appeal to Authority as a backstop.

So you cant think on the topic so why dont you go home and whack you little noodle then?

Youre confused because theres 2 different conversations at work.

I can help you with the moving parts.

I cannot explain how sentience came to be in terms of the periodic table of elements.


The explanation for sentience and the "creator has or hasnt been proven" discussion are two seperate things going on right now.


In terms of a creator, my claim this entire time has been agnosticism, and Ive said "if not, wheres proof?"

That has nothing to do with elements forming sentience.
..and if I can explain that or not.

Clue, got one?

I know that there were two discussion, jack ass, but I am only concerned about one of them, and again you fail to support your claims.

Got a brain? Then get one.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Tell us how these atoms have combined.

You do know you are telling us the Periodic table is wrong and obsolete, don't you?

Atoms combine according to the number of electrons in their outer shell, called valence electrons. Nothing random about it, therefore it is YOU who are contradicting the periodic table which is arranged in groups according to their valence electrons.

And the price of tea in China went up.

So you can't rebut my reply.
Thank you.

No, you’re off topic.

No, valence electrons prove molecular life is NO accident, as YOU falsely claim in your own title of this thread.
You can't rebut that fact so you dodge by claiming it is off topic.
Thank you again!

No, valence electrons prove molecular life is NO accident, as YOU falsely claim in your own title of this thread.

Why would I do that?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bonding is what you are talking about.
Tell us what atoms have bonded that are sentient.

The atoms YOU listed in your OP. DUH!

The atoms are not sentient, doofus.

But the atoms BONDED into a human ARE sentient.

That is his point, doofus.

 

[G.T.]

I didnt say "the basis for sentience does not need to be proven."


You are wrong.

OK.
Then why does life exist? If all that we are are the elements listed, I think we can agree that does not explain why.

Right?

I DONT KNOW that sentience isnt adequatly explained via biology - so why would I AGREE with that comment?

I dont operate that way.

What your doing here is saying "because it hasnt been explained to me, its not possible."

IM NOT doing that regarding a creator. If I didnt think one was "possible," Id be an atheist.... and not an agnostic.

Its possible, its just not been proven to me.


Same as sentience coming from a conglomeration of the periodic table (which is probably a malformed question to begin with....but Id defer to a biologist).......just because nobodys yet explained it to you doesnt make it impossible.

So you’re open to the possibility that the pencil on your desk may get up and do the cha-cha?

No, because gravity is a concept thats been explained to me adequately...and I know the composition of a pencil does not express those traits.

lol the fakk

You obviously have the reason why elements are sentient explained to well enough as to know why this is and is not, so why don’t you share with the class.

I dont even think "elements are sentient" is an accurate statement to begin with...but again, a biologist could better explain than I could.

For example, if you extract a carbon molecule from my body ~ it wouldnt be sentient.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Bonding is what you are talking about.
Tell us what atoms have bonded that are sentient.

The atoms YOU listed in your OP. DUH!

The atoms are not sentient, doofus.

But the atoms BONDED into a human ARE sentient.

So if I pick my scab off it’ll write music?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Bonding is what you are talking about.
Tell us what atoms have bonded that are sentient.

The atoms YOU listed in your OP. DUH!

The atoms are not sentient, doofus.

But the atoms BONDED into a human ARE sentient.

So if I pick my scab off it’ll write music?

They are engaging in a tautology and they know it.

Things are sentient because they are sentient things is about all their supposed counterpoints amount to.