The Benefits Of Socialism

[Mac1958]

Why are these people afraid to provide a clear working definition of the term?

Why are you afraid to discuss why you want more socialism?

What is your definition of the term?

Is it a secret?
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You're missing my point. Your question is a deliberate distraction. No matter what I say, you'll focus on nitpicking it instead of discussing the topic. That's why you're asking.

Holy crap.

I've got some yard work to do. If you'll provide a definition, I will give you a full and clear response using your definition when I return.

Looking forward to it.
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[Edgetho]

Can't talk about something if we can't agree on a definition, that's true. So - to avoid talking about something - just make sure there's no agreement on the definition. Mission accomplished.

dimocrap scum quibble.

Like uneducated children, they quibble. Can't pin them down because they know that if they take a stand they will be defeated.

It is aka, cowardice.

 

[dblack]

Why are these people afraid to provide a clear working definition of the term?

Why are you afraid to discuss why you want more socialism?

What is your definition of the term?

Is it a secret?
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You're missing my point. Your question is a deliberate distraction. No matter what I say, you'll focus on nitpicking it instead of discussing the topic. That's why you're asking.

Holy crap.

I've got some yard work to do. If you'll provide a definition, I will give you a full and clear response using your definition when I return.

Looking forward to it.
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Stay the course!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Trumpians are doing just as much to bring about socialism as the Dems. By calling everything that moves "socialism" they are making it commonplace and not something to be feared.

Yep. And Democrats are using that to avoid real discussion. Notice that democrats aren't (for the most part) denying that they're socialists. Instead, they're playing orwellian word games to confuse the issue.

Are the Dems socialist? Do they want the central government to take over all the means of production and distribution?


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You Lefties are smart enough to ease us into your filth..This opens the flood gates and allows for expansion of your filth.
“Oh come on Righties, move with the times....a man sucking another man off can’t hurt anyone and your acceptance of men blowing men won’t lead to men in dresses shitting next to your teen daughters or anything.”

“Oh come on Righties, move with the times...smoking a little weed never hurt anyone and your acceptance of a society full of stoners won’t lead to more staying on welfare or lowlifes wanting to legalize heroin.”

This is funny coming from a big government statist that wants the government involved in far more aspects of our lives than I do


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[dudmuck]

This is the way the Regressive Left has long leveraged the term "racism".

Today, it just means whatever they want it to mean at any given time, for some perceived political advantage.

Peas in a pod.
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Exactly. They're trying to do the same thing with socialism. They're creating this narrative that says anyone who opposes socialism just doesn't understand what it is. And when you ask them what it is, you get a bunch of word games. Fuck that shit.

and yet...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let’s try this and see if it works.

I see no benefit in the government owning and controlling the means of production and distribution.


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[BrokeLoser]

The Trumpians are doing just as much to bring about socialism as the Dems. By calling everything that moves "socialism" they are making it commonplace and not something to be feared.

Yep. And Democrats are using that to avoid real discussion. Notice that democrats aren't (for the most part) denying that they're socialists. Instead, they're playing orwellian word games to confuse the issue.

Are the Dems socialist? Do they want the central government to take over all the means of production and distribution?


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You Lefties are smart enough to ease us into your filth..This opens the flood gates and allows for expansion of your filth.
“Oh come on Righties, move with the times....a man sucking another man off can’t hurt anyone and your acceptance of men blowing men won’t lead to men in dresses shitting next to your teen daughters or anything.”

“Oh come on Righties, move with the times...smoking a little weed never hurt anyone and your acceptance of a society full of stoners won’t lead to more staying on welfare or lowlifes wanting to legalize heroin.”

This is funny coming from a big government statist that wants the government involved in far more aspects of our lives than I do


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I’ll be the first to admit...I’ve called for government intervention to hold you filthy fucks in check...and that’s it.
If it weren’t for the filthy fucks among us we’d have a lot more freedom...you’d agree right?
That said...Why do you insist on expanding the number of filthy fucks among us?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Let’s try this and see if it works.

I see no benefit in the government owning and controlling the means of production and distribution.


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That’s communism...why be so nutless...address the issue of socialism...sack up.

 

[Rustic]

The Trumpians are doing just as much to bring about socialism as the Dems. By calling everything that moves "socialism" they are making it commonplace and not something to be feared.

Yep. And Democrats are using that to avoid real discussion. Notice that democrats aren't (for the most part) denying that they're socialists. Instead, they're playing orwellian word games to confuse the issue.

BULLSHIT

The real discussion? Socialism is used by the Right to continue the RED SCARE.

Socialism has a 100% failure rate

 

[BrokeLoser]

This is the way the Regressive Left has long leveraged the term "racism".

Today, it just means whatever they want it to mean at any given time, for some perceived political advantage.

Peas in a pod.
.

Exactly. They're trying to do the same thing with socialism. They're creating this narrative that says anyone who opposes socialism just doesn't understand what it is. And when you ask them what it is, you get a bunch of word games. Fuck that shit.

and yet...

Don’t you demand that we pay for your ShaQuita’s, Guadalupe’s and their litters of filth? Why wouldn’t you jump at the opportunity to give back?

 

[Edgetho]

This is funny coming from a big government statist that wants the government involved in far more aspects of our lives than I do


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Another surgeon's dream.

Give us some examples, Mr Engels.

Don't just shoot off your mouth like some over-sexed College Sophomore, back it up.

Or shut it up.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let’s try this and see if it works.

I see no benefit in the government owning and controlling the means of production and distribution.


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That’s communism...why be so nutless...address the issue of socialism...sack up.

You are welcome, no charge for me educating you.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Trumpians are doing just as much to bring about socialism as the Dems. By calling everything that moves "socialism" they are making it commonplace and not something to be feared.

Yep. And Democrats are using that to avoid real discussion. Notice that democrats aren't (for the most part) denying that they're socialists. Instead, they're playing orwellian word games to confuse the issue.

Are the Dems socialist? Do they want the central government to take over all the means of production and distribution?


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You Lefties are smart enough to ease us into your filth..This opens the flood gates and allows for expansion of your filth.
“Oh come on Righties, move with the times....a man sucking another man off can’t hurt anyone and your acceptance of men blowing men won’t lead to men in dresses shitting next to your teen daughters or anything.”

“Oh come on Righties, move with the times...smoking a little weed never hurt anyone and your acceptance of a society full of stoners won’t lead to more staying on welfare or lowlifes wanting to legalize heroin.”

This is funny coming from a big government statist that wants the government involved in far more aspects of our lives than I do


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I’ll be the first to admit...I’ve called for government intervention to hold you filthy fucks in check...and that’s it.
If it weren’t for the filthy fucks among us we’d have a lot more freedom...you’d agree right?
That said...Why do you insist on expanding the number of filthy fucks among us?

Why do you keep lying about my stance on illegal immigration?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Actually, the shell game with the definition is a standard derailment technique - designed to avoid discussion.

usually ....when your talking to a lefty ...99.9 % of the time
Its going on for way to long
it really is getting old

Most of the young commies today have been sold this fantasy of bottom to top socialism .the only problem which they never seem to address is that you still have to put people in charge of the "collective" "democracy"

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Russia , China, North Korea , There is no free enterprise in these country's. All Commerce is controlled by the Govt.

China is no longer an economic socialist State. They have evolved into a Technocracy.

If you try to explain that to a dimocrap, put some cartoons on TV first

According to the Chinese they have a Socialist Market Economy

 

[BrokeLoser]

Let’s try this and see if it works.

I see no benefit in the government owning and controlling the means of production and distribution.


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That’s communism...why be so nutless...address the issue of socialism...sack up.

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You are welcome, no charge for me educating you.

Awesome thanks Webster. Now tell us what separates Socialism from Communism.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let's defend socialism, shall we??
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Could you define socialism for us?

It seems the best way to start such a discussion.

You're kidding, right???

socialism is State Ownership or Control of the means of production.

Awesome. Thanks, it is always good to make sure that people are on the same page when discussing such things. People on this forum have called the actions of a private business "socialist" so one never knows.

With the definition settled, which countries in the world today have State Ownership or Control of the means of production?

Russia , China, North Korea , There is no free enterprise in these country's. All Commerce is controlled by the Govt.

If there were no free enterprise in Russia, there would not be Russian oligarchs

 

[Edgetho]

Let’s try this and see if it works.

I see no benefit in the government owning and controlling the means of production and distribution.


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That’s communism...why be so nutless...address the issue of socialism...sack up.

No. communism is the absence of a State. Under communism, The 'State' has 'Withered Away" after a successful run of socialism. To be taken over by Worker's Councils. And that's about as far as Marx/Engels got. They never talked about who was gonna pick up the garbage or run the railroads.

I'm trying to stay away from Marx because he really was a stupid person. Seriously. He really was. But Russia and China and many other failed and murderous regimes followed his idiotic teaching. Or, more accurately, Engels teachings.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Let’s try this and see if it works.

I see no benefit in the government owning and controlling the means of production and distribution.


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That’s communism...why be so nutless...address the issue of socialism...sack up.

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You are welcome, no charge for me educating you.

Awesome thanks Webster. Now tell us what separates Socialism from Communism.

The Difference Between Communism and Socialism


In a communist society, the working class owns everything, and everyone works toward the same communal goal. There are no wealthy or poor people -- all are equal, and the community distributes what it produces based only on need.

socialism’s main focus is on equality. But workers earn wages they can spend as they choose, while the government, not citizens, owns and operates the means for production.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Actually, the shell game with the definition is a standard derailment technique - designed to avoid discussion.

usually ....when your talking to a lefty ...99.9 % of the time
Its going on for way to long
it really is getting old

Most of the young commies today have been sold this fantasy of bottom to top socialism .the only problem which they never seem to address is that you still have to put people in charge of the "collective" "democracy"

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she get's you all hard, doesn't she!