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when you have a federal plan or program lets say, republicans like they are trying to do to Obama care ... they try to put in defunding or remove parts of the plan or deregulate it then the plan or program fails, these republicans without fail come to the public and say " see the government can do anything wright" ...Ladies & Gentlemen - I give you the profound stupidity of the libtard Dumbocrat.
"Congress can do what they want" - francoHFW
The left in this country is so profoundly ignorant (and brainwashed), they actually believe that amazing statement. They have no idea about the limitations the U.S. Constitution imposes on the federal government - including congress.
I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy.
Like an abused wife apologizing for her husband, no matter what he does.
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its people like you who just don't realize whats going on around them who are sucked into Idea that a Liberal is a bad thing mentality, they come out here and say stupid shit like "I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy." then feel all incensed when they are confronted ...
when you have a federal plan or program lets say, republicans like they are trying to do to Obama care ... they try to put in defunding or remove parts of the plan or deregulate it then the plan or program fails, these republicans without fail come to the public and say " see the government can do anything wright" ...I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy.
Like an abused wife apologizing for her husband, no matter what he does.
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its people like you who just don't realize whats going on around them who are sucked into Idea that a Liberal is a bad thing mentality, they come out here and say stupid shit like "I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy." then feel all incensed when they are confronted ...
Diversion (trying to move the conversation to another party), straw men (I'm i, not a conservative, I don't believe that "liberal is a bad thing"), insults ("stupid shit") and fantasy ("all incensed when they are confronted") aside, I don't actually see a direct response to my post.
That's okay, though, since I never expect that here.
Perhaps you should play your little games with a right-winger.
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their income doesn't allow them to purchase it ...#135- Not lies, just total BS Pub propaganda, hater dupe. Ain't the Pub Propaganda Machine great, organizing all that BULLSHYTTE for you? Read something from a real journalist.
Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?
It designed so that no one picks up on the fact that it is socialized health care and you pay into the system WHETHER YOU USE IT OR NOT
WEATHER THEY LET YOU USE OT OR NOT LET YOU USE IT ... the health care system you had in the past what was that all about??? you pay for it or your company pays for it ... then you used it to take care of a medical issue that you have, what happens???"? they would to one of three things... deny you coverage, raise your rates, or cancel your health care all together .... then make it next to impossible for you to get health care ... or price it so high that you couldn't afford it... that's the great system you talk about.... at least under obama care you have a system that pays for your health care that you can use... as for it being socialized medicine, that's bull shit ... you as a citizen pay for it ... if the government paid for it then it would be socialized medicine ... the fact that each and every person pays for it says it all ...
Listen closely------not everyone is heavily dependent on the health care system. If you don't use it why should I be forced to pay for it ? Why are so many people exempt ?
Are you crazy ? You don't think this is going to cost the government anything ?
so you for the ACA ... it makes everyone pay for their health care .... you're saying you're tired of pay higher insurance rates because of these people using the emergency room as their health care ... right ??? or are you just fucking dumb and don't understand what you're really against'...Jeebus the hater dupes believe a pile of crappe LOL! There are 40 million freeloaders YOU are paying for, and our Pub SCAM of a system is a cruel disaster, and the horrors Pubs scare you with haven't happened and never will. A-holes and silly brainwashed Pub dupes. AND it's a Pub style reform. Functional morons. LOL
I'm tired of supporting others. Looking out for myself and family first.
Fuck everyone else
There, I said it.
-Geaux
You don't even know what authoritarianism is.Sorry, I don't buy your line, fisherman, and you can try to hook line and sucker someone else into believing that. I've never seen a more authoritarian speech than Nancy Pelosi telling her House majority not to read the 2500 page white paper that "Affordable" Health Care Act. The reason her nincompoops named it "Affordable" was a sheer, unadulterated falsehood named so to obfuscate the truth: the damn bill was the highest tax hike in the history of America and also the history of the world. Furthermore, the little clauses in it demand from the taxpayer to foot the bill for totalitarian Unions (who can strike when they feel like it) to take over all aspects of health care, including a million apiece in long term benefits when the time comes around. That is trillions and trillions of extra dollars that will be demanded and squelched from every human being in the nation except those whom Congress grants freebies to, their entitlement Democrats being the recipients, not to mention their union goons.The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.
Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.
While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians
You're selling the Brooklyn Bridge for many times its worth. Go sell it to someone else. In order to make improvements, you have to have an income. When you have 7/8ths of the population living off 1/8th, you're going to shrink that until you have to inflict slavery on this society.
You're not looking ahead at all.
You don't even know what authoritarianism is. Your example is childish whine. The small amount of waivers issued were all necessary. They are all timing issues where businesses are granted waivers to give them time to transition into changes being made.
Like the elimination of mini-meds.
WOW! Medical marijuana prices just went through the roof!their income doesn't allow them to purchase it ...#135- Not lies, just total BS Pub propaganda, hater dupe. Ain't the Pub Propaganda Machine great, organizing all that BULLSHYTTE for you? Read something from a real journalist.
Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?
example: your income for a month is 600 dollars a month
your health care cost 300 dollars a month ...
when you have a federal plan or program lets say, republicans like they are trying to do to Obama care ... they try to put in defunding or remove parts of the plan or deregulate it then the plan or program fails, these republicans without fail come to the public and say " see the government can do anything wright" ...
its people like you who just don't realize whats going on around them who are sucked into Idea that a Liberal is a bad thing mentality, they come out here and say stupid shit like "I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy." then feel all incensed when they are confronted ...
Diversion (trying to move the conversation to another party), straw men (I'm i, not a conservative, I don't believe that "liberal is a bad thing"), insults ("stupid shit") and fantasy ("all incensed when they are confronted") aside, I don't actually see a direct response to my post.
That's okay, though, since I never expect that here.
Perhaps you should play your little games with a right-winger.
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we all know independent are Ashamed Conservatives ... this is a well know fact ... deny it all you want, that's fine ... That's okay, though, since I never expect that a Ashamed to admit Conservative would admit it... all we hear from you "Ashamed to admit Conservative (independents)" is gubment bad, just by your statement alone ...where you stated it or not... you said I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy." if thats not playing games with your little right-winger Ashamed to admit Conservative (independents) mind, I don't know what is ... no liberal/dem has a near-romantic affection for the federal bureaucracy. if there is a federal bureaucracy that we libs/dem tend to support, we get crap thrown at us in a negative attack like this statement of yours ...
Wealth redistribution is what it is. No matter when Bigfarm sez:I just don't think Communism of any kind is good for the world. The pitch of promising things that destroy people's incentives has never worked out. Lies have to be told in order to for that kind of a society, then when 60% of the population objects, the liars have to kill them.
Communism is a failed system that puts power in the hands of groups who must be protected on all sides. The only way that can be accomplished cheaply is to kill people. That's what the Soviet Socialists did, that's what the Chinese did under Mao.
The dead people never come back to complain. Liars really don't want to deal with the realists in society, so that's what it comes down to.
The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.
Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.
Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.
While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians
Do you see the communist propaganda that Dumbocrtas use?!? State Capitalism is communism/socialism/marxism (the state is controlling the market).
But being the nefarious, disingenuous assholes they are, Dumbocrats like Bfgrn here believe they can poison capitalism in the minds of people by sneaking the term in. Instead of using the correct term - communism - the use "state capitalism". These lying piece of shit do the same thing with abortion. Rather than calling it was it really is (murder) or even what it's called (abortion) because it exposes them for the evil they are, they say "pro-choice". Not "pro-murder" (as it should be), or "pro-abortion". Nope. They say "pro-choice" to mask their true evil and agenda.
"State Capitalism"....
are you really this stupid .... Ive had some stupid things said before but this takes the cake ....So you admit that there are bad things in the ACA before it even starts? So why did the Democrats pass a bill that has these bad things in it...and more importantly what Democrat has proposed legislation to CORRECT the bad things that are in the ACA? I must have missed that, Auditor!
The people who are sticking steadfastly to an "agenda" are actually you Progressives. You admit that the ACA sucks but none of you have done a thing to fix it. Why? Because it's such a bad piece of legislation that if you start trying to take out what doesn't work...you'll end up with next to nothing.
if there are three bad things as you say there is it will get change after the 2014 election ....when republicans lose control of the house by get voted out ... then if there is three bad things that need fixing lie you say they will get it fixed ... but for right now as long as repub-lie-tards refuse to bring any bill that the dems need to work on, it won't happen ... might make the repub-lie-tards look even badder then they already look ....
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhA
Please point me to any Democratic bills to overhaul ObamaCare, Billy. If you admit that there are problems with it then what are you Progressives waiting for? It's been three years since that bad boy was passed! How long does it take you people to sit down and draft legislation that fixes the obvious problems in the ACA?
Now you say that we'll need to wait until AFTER the 2014 election for changes? LOL Why is it, Billy that you guys always push everything back until after the next election...and then as soon as we've HAD that election, you do nothing and start promising that it will all happen after the NEXT election? At what point do Progressives actually deliver on their promises?
You don't even know what authoritarianism is.Sorry, I don't buy your line, fisherman, and you can try to hook line and sucker someone else into believing that. I've never seen a more authoritarian speech than Nancy Pelosi telling her House majority not to read the 2500 page white paper that "Affordable" Health Care Act. The reason her nincompoops named it "Affordable" was a sheer, unadulterated falsehood named so to obfuscate the truth: the damn bill was the highest tax hike in the history of America and also the history of the world. Furthermore, the little clauses in it demand from the taxpayer to foot the bill for totalitarian Unions (who can strike when they feel like it) to take over all aspects of health care, including a million apiece in long term benefits when the time comes around. That is trillions and trillions of extra dollars that will be demanded and squelched from every human being in the nation except those whom Congress grants freebies to, their entitlement Democrats being the recipients, not to mention their union goons.
You're selling the Brooklyn Bridge for many times its worth. Go sell it to someone else. In order to make improvements, you have to have an income. When you have 7/8ths of the population living off 1/8th, you're going to shrink that until you have to inflict slavery on this society.
You're not looking ahead at all.
You don't even know what authoritarianism is. Your example is childish whine. The small amount of waivers issued were all necessary. They are all timing issues where businesses are granted waivers to give them time to transition into changes being made.
Like the elimination of mini-meds.
I certainly do.
Don't confuse whining with being pissed off, little buddy.
24-hour loans? I know all about those, repaid with interest. The only trouble is, that becomes the ignorant left's whipping boy, years after the bill was paid (the next day). The trouble is, you aren't paying attention but are a blind partisan spewing wealth redistribution diatribe. You covet what someone else has. That's breaking the 10th commandment.
The 10 commandments are the Biggies in human indignities in case you're thinking religion... not. It's law, and you're a piggy at somebody else's trough.
Get a life, Bigfarm, because you bought the farm on wealth redistribution.
I haven't and am likely not going to.
I'll be forced to pay for YOUR health care. THAT's what I'm against, BillyBoy.so you for the ACA ... it makes everyone pay for their health care .... you're saying you're tired of pay higher insurance rates because of these people using the emergency room as their health care ... right ??? or are you just fucking dumb and don't understand what you're really against'...Jeebus the hater dupes believe a pile of crappe LOL! There are 40 million freeloaders YOU are paying for, and our Pub SCAM of a system is a cruel disaster, and the horrors Pubs scare you with haven't happened and never will. A-holes and silly brainwashed Pub dupes. AND it's a Pub style reform. Functional morons. LOL
I'm tired of supporting others. Looking out for myself and family first.
Fuck everyone else
There, I said it.
-Geaux
There, I said it.
are you really this stupid .... Ive had some stupid things said before but this takes the cake ....if there are three bad things as you say there is it will get change after the 2014 election ....when republicans lose control of the house by get voted out ... then if there is three bad things that need fixing lie you say they will get it fixed ... but for right now as long as repub-lie-tards refuse to bring any bill that the dems need to work on, it won't happen ... might make the repub-lie-tards look even badder then they already look ....
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAhA
Please point me to any Democratic bills to overhaul ObamaCare, Billy. If you admit that there are problems with it then what are you Progressives waiting for? It's been three years since that bad boy was passed! How long does it take you people to sit down and draft legislation that fixes the obvious problems in the ACA?
Now you say that we'll need to wait until AFTER the 2014 election for changes? LOL Why is it, Billy that you guys always push everything back until after the next election...and then as soon as we've HAD that election, you do nothing and start promising that it will all happen after the NEXT election? At what point do Progressives actually deliver on their promises?
First stupid question:
you asked "Please point me to any Democratic bills to overhaul ObamaCare, Billy." do you understand how gubment works??? really do you ??? cause this one is real stupid question ...
second stupid question:
If you admit that there are problems with it then what are you Progressives waiting for?
first of all no where in my post did I say I admit there is something wrong ... I clearly said if there are three bad things as you say referring to0 a poster post then offered a opinion to what to do ... there isn't any where in my post, me stating there's something wrong ... as for why we are waiting ...are you really for real??? really !!! do you realize how moronic you sound here???
third stupid question:
you asked "Now you say that we'll need to wait until AFTER the 2014 election for changes? LOL Why is it, Billy that you guys always push everything back until after the next election...
her you say the stupidest thing yet ... like it was some kind of act of brilliance on your part then you LOL it .... if that doesn't say laughing fool I don't know what does ... who control ls the house ??? who bring the bills to the floor ??? these are good questions for idiots like you to go and look up .... then you will, I hope, understand why we are waiting for the 2014 election ... if you don't, then all I can say is I pity the fool ...
forth stupid question:
you say we promised ... I don't know of any politician that promises anything ... they tell you what they want to try and accomplish while in office, but I never heard any politician say I promise to fill in the blank do you understand what it is meant by controlling the house and its implications??? from your post it says clearly you don't understand
when you have a federal plan or program lets say, republicans like they are trying to do to Obama care ... they try to put in defunding or remove parts of the plan or deregulate it then the plan or program fails, these republicans without fail come to the public and say " see the government can do anything wright" ...Ladies & Gentlemen - I give you the profound stupidity of the libtard Dumbocrat.
"Congress can do what they want" - francoHFW
The left in this country is so profoundly ignorant (and brainwashed), they actually believe that amazing statement. They have no idea about the limitations the U.S. Constitution imposes on the federal government - including congress.
I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy.
Like an abused wife apologizing for her husband, no matter what he does.
.
its people like you who just don't realize whats going on around them who are sucked into Idea that a Liberal is a bad thing mentality, they come out here and say stupid shit like "I will never understand this near-romantic affection some folks have for the federal bureaucracy." then feel all incensed when they are confronted ...
you know, i knew it was Mae .... my favorite thing to do is make a planted word... then watch how you all jump on it ... as if it was misspelled.... actually it wasn't misspelled you're too stupid to realize it ... because May is not a misspelled word ... but it does show how moronic you righties are ... if you can't refute my post you try and find something to use to say that it hasn't any value ... the fact that my post is historical and you can't stand that the republicans fucked the country by steeling your retirement and running you into debt, and nearly bankrupting the country, tells us all where you stand... its all about you... and nothing elseI'm going to read a juvenile diatribe from an illiterate who can't even spell 'Fannie Mae'?
Right.
WOW! Medical marijuana prices just went through the roof!their income doesn't allow them to purchase it ...Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?
example: your income for a month is 600 dollars a month
your health care cost 300 dollars a month ...
