The biggest Obama lie of all cannot be denied

#135- Not lies, just total BS Pub propaganda, hater dupe. Ain't the Pub Propaganda Machine great, organizing all that BULLSHYTTE for you? Read something from a real journalist.


Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?

Why mess with franco?

The dude is a clueless idiot.

He has one response to everything "Pub hater dupes"....whatever that means.

Who is the clueless idiot? You claim you work in the health care industry and you don't know or understand the legitimate reasons some people have received TEMPORARY exemptions?

Is it that you can't read? Is it that you can't comprehend? Or is it that you are too dishonest to admit the truth?
 
Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?

Why mess with franco?

The dude is a clueless idiot.

He has one response to everything "Pub hater dupes"....whatever that means.

Who is the clueless idiot? You claim you work in the health care industry and you don't know or understand the legitimate reasons some people have received TEMPORARY exemptions?

Is it that you can't read? Is it that you can't comprehend? Or is it that you are too dishonest to admit the truth?

(smile) You really are a dumbfuck :)

Its cute how you cite Bammy propaganda as "proof"....sorry, the exemptions are purely Political kid...you just aren't smart enough to understand it.

Congress is exempt.
The President is exempt.
Unions are exempt.

The Exchanges aren't going to open on time....

The employer mandate was delayed because of the 2014 elections....

....and all you can say is "Nuh-Uh" you are dismissed sparky.
 
Why mess with franco?

The dude is a clueless idiot.

He has one response to everything "Pub hater dupes"....whatever that means.

Who is the clueless idiot? You claim you work in the health care industry and you don't know or understand the legitimate reasons some people have received TEMPORARY exemptions?

Is it that you can't read? Is it that you can't comprehend? Or is it that you are too dishonest to admit the truth?

(smile) You really are a dumbfuck :)

Its cute how you cite Bammy propaganda as "proof"....sorry, the exemptions are purely Political kid...you just aren't smart enough to understand it.

Congress is exempt.
The President is exempt.
Unions are exempt.

The Exchanges aren't going to open on time....

The employer mandate was delayed because of the 2014 elections....

....and all you can say is "Nuh-Uh" you are dismissed sparky.

Illegal aliens are exempt too, right ? And the IRS ?

Why ?
 
Why mess with franco?

The dude is a clueless idiot.

He has one response to everything "Pub hater dupes"....whatever that means.

Who is the clueless idiot? You claim you work in the health care industry and you don't know or understand the legitimate reasons some people have received TEMPORARY exemptions?

Is it that you can't read? Is it that you can't comprehend? Or is it that you are too dishonest to admit the truth?

(smile) You really are a dumbfuck :)

Its cute how you cite Bammy propaganda as "proof"....sorry, the exemptions are purely Political kid...you just aren't smart enough to understand it.

Congress is exempt.
The President is exempt.
Unions are exempt.

The Exchanges aren't going to open on time....

The employer mandate was delayed because of the 2014 elections....

....and all you can say is "Nuh-Uh" you are dismissed sparky.

Thank you. We now know you are just a dishonest and scurrilous piece of shit.
 
they would have to make the heath care, across state lines, use the same rules and regulations you have in your state ... the health care across state lines would have to respond to your challenge to a charge or a denial in your state ... other wise you would end up having to go to what ever state you chose to use, to challenge their denial ... that would be very costly to you or the person involved to the challenge or denial ... that's one of the main reason getting health care across state lines is a bad Idea

Complete and total nonsense... As with ALL businesses, those choosing to do business in ANY state are subject to the laws of that state. So there would be ZERO conflicts, ZERO costs, ZERO issues (beyond what already exists).

its not nonsense .... so if a states say fuck you were not going to abide by your states health care laws laws then what??? you chose a out a state carrier ... they tell you denied .... then what you have to go to that state under that stats laws and challenge them at your expense how is that better for you .... you're assuming that all state will abide by each and ever states health care laws ... sorry pal it doesn't work that way....

It's not a question of one state abiding by another state's laws you epic moron. It's a question of a private corporation abiding by a state's laws (you can't follow a simple conversation?).

So InusraCore X based on California starts selling insurance "across state lines" in Nevada - then for their customers in Nevada, InsuraCore X must abide by Nevada law. California does not have to abide by Nevada law - it's the insurance company that would have to :cuckoo:

God almighty are Dumbocrats taking dumb to a whole new level this week :banghead:
 
denying that the republicans haven't lied is a bigger farce ... in my opinion... so far what I've seen is nobody on the right has been able to prove any so-called lies that Obama has told... there has been plenty accusations, that's for sure ... but nobody has ever proved that he lied about Benghazi, the IRS, fast and furious, or any of the so called BS things that republicans rant about ... they just make unsubstantiated accusation ... to rile their base ... that's what I've seen

Yyyyyyeah.... nothing to see here folks! Move along! These are not the droids you are looking for... :eusa_whistle:

[ame=http://youtu.be/wfl55GgHr5E]"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://youtu.be/NTRy0uTuv0M]Obama promises transparency - YouTube[/ame]

Seriously folks - only a Dumbocrat could see indisputable evidence of Obama on VIDEO lying and make the outrageous & absurd claim that there is no "proof" that Obama has lied :banghead:
when you have some actual proof and not some edited video, we will take you serious ... still waiting for that so-called lie he told ... next!!!!!

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Now the videos are "edited"?!?!

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#135- Not lies, just total BS Pub propaganda, hater dupe. Ain't the Pub Propaganda Machine great, organizing all that BULLSHYTTE for you? Read something from a real journalist.

It's just the same thing over and over with this libtard. He's even too fuck'n lazy to come up with a new excuse. I guess we now have to add video on YouTube for the list of "pub dupe propaganda" in the eyes of this parasite partisan-hack?

I post an article from FoxNews, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

I post an article from the Blaze, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

I post an article from the Washington Post, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

I post an article from the Washington Times, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

I post an article from the Washington Free Beacon, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

I post an article from Newsweek, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

I post an article from CNN, and like the dick-head that you are, you cry "what a joke".

There is literally no facts that you will accept. The ONLY thing you will accept is the misinformation spoon fed to your pathetic ass from team Obama...

Sorry, there is only so many times you can cry wolf before you become a joke. And you have become a joke literally decrying that every article posted (from the very liberal main stream media) is a "joke" from "conservatives"...
 
It's not a question of one state abiding by another state's laws you epic moron. It's a question of a private corporation abiding by a state's laws (you can't follow a simple conversation?).

So InusraCore X based on California starts selling insurance "across state lines" in Nevada - then for their customers in Nevada, InsuraCore X must abide by Nevada law. California does not have to abide by Nevada law - it's the insurance company that would have to :cuckoo:

That isn't how it works, genius. The purpose of all "across state lines" legislation is to allow insurers to choose a primary state and then sell in any secondary state they want subject only to the insurance rules in place in the primary state.

All GOP legislation containing this proposal copies verbatim the language from John Shadegg's 2005 (and 2007 and 2009) Health Care Choice Act, sponsored by DeMint in the Senate. Marsha Blackburn has taken up the mantle and introduced it in the current Congress. The very same language was used in the House GOP's alternative to the Democratic health reform bill in 2009. Look up any GOP legislation that allows across-state-line purchasing. It will say:


`Part D--Cooperative Governing of Individual Health Insurance Coverage

`SEC. 2795. DEFINITIONS.

`In this part:
`(1) PRIMARY STATE- The term `primary State' means, with respect to individual health insurance coverage offered by a health insurance issuer, the State designated by the issuer as the State whose covered laws shall govern the health insurance issuer in the sale of such coverage under this part. An issuer, with respect to a particular policy, may only designate one such State as its primary State with respect to all such coverage it offers. Such an issuer may not change the designated primary State with respect to individual health insurance coverage once the policy is issued, except that such a change may be made upon renewal of the policy. With respect to such designated State, the issuer is deemed to be doing business in that State.
`(2) SECONDARY STATE- The term `secondary State' means, with respect to individual health insurance coverage offered by a health insurance issuer, any State that is not the primary State. In the case of a health insurance issuer that is selling a policy in, or to a resident of, a secondary State, the issuer is deemed to be doing business in that secondary State.​

`SEC. 2796. APPLICATION OF LAW.
`(a) IN GENERAL- The covered laws of the primary State shall apply to individual health insurance coverage offered by a health insurance issuer in the primary State and in any secondary State, but only if the coverage and issuer comply with the conditions of this section with respect to the offering of coverage in any secondary State.
`(b) EXEMPTIONS FROM COVERED LAWS IN A SECONDARY STATE- Except as provided in this section, a health insurance issuer with respect to its offer, sale, renewal, and issuance of individual health insurance coverage in any secondary State is exempt from any covered laws of the secondary State (and any rules, regulations, agreements, or orders sought or issued by such State under or related to such covered laws) to the extent that such laws would-- `(1) make unlawful, or regulate, directly or indirectly, the operation of the health insurance issuer operating in the secondary State​
`SEC. 2798. ENFORCEMENT.

`(a) IN GENERAL- Subject to subsection (b), with respect to specific individual health insurance coverage the primary State for such coverage has sole jurisdiction to enforce the primary State's covered laws in the primary State and any secondary State.

In your example, your California-based insurance company sells in Nevada, complying with California's insurance laws (not Nevada's). It is explicitly exempt from Nevada's laws and there's nothing Nevada can do about it; they're stripped of the right to regulate products sold to their consumers in their own marketplace. Moreover, California is responsible for enforcement of those laws for Nevadans covered by insurance sold by this company, not Nevada.

Now multiply that by 50. A Nevadan shopping for insurance in his local market now faces insurance products subject to 50 different sets of rules, with each set of rules enforced by the state in which they originate. It's a fucking mess.

Luckily, each of those products is required by the law to somewhere in the paperwork include a paragraph like this:

`This policy is issued by InsuraCoreX and is governed by the laws and regulations of the State of California, and it has met all the laws of that State as determined by that State's Department of Insurance. This policy may be less expensive than others because it is not subject to all of the insurance laws and regulations of the State of Nevada, including coverage of some services or benefits mandated by the law of the State of Nevada. Additionally, this policy is not subject to all of the consumer protection laws or restrictions on rate changes of the State of Nevada. As with all insurance products, before purchasing this policy, you should carefully review the policy and determine what health care services the policy covers and what benefits it provides, including any exclusions, limitations, or conditions for such services or benefits.'.

Whew, glad that solved things!
 
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#147- The Blaze, Fox, and the Washington Times are Pubcrappe, you'never posted anything actually WRITTEN by CNN, the Post, etc I had a problem with. That was RW BS they happened to publish, another RW trick when they link to it..
 
I just don't think Communism of any kind is good for the world. The pitch of promising things that destroy people's incentives has never worked out. Lies have to be told in order to for that kind of a society, then when 60% of the population objects, the liars have to kill them.

Communism is a failed system that puts power in the hands of groups who must be protected on all sides. The only way that can be accomplished cheaply is to kill people. That's what the Soviet Socialists did, that's what the Chinese did under Mao.

The dead people never come back to complain. Liars really don't want to deal with the realists in society, so that's what it comes down to.
 
#135- Not lies, just total BS Pub propaganda, hater dupe. Ain't the Pub Propaganda Machine great, organizing all that BULLSHYTTE for you? Read something from a real journalist.


Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?


Nobody is, they have temporary waivers. Congress can do what they want.


Congress didn't do the waiver. Obama did. And it's against the law.

Every wonder why our Phony Constitutional Law Professor of a President thinks he doesn't have to follow the law?
 
I just don't think Communism of any kind is good for the world. The pitch of promising things that destroy people's incentives has never worked out. Lies have to be told in order to for that kind of a society, then when 60% of the population objects, the liars have to kill them.

Communism is a failed system that puts power in the hands of groups who must be protected on all sides. The only way that can be accomplished cheaply is to kill people. That's what the Soviet Socialists did, that's what the Chinese did under Mao.

The dead people never come back to complain. Liars really don't want to deal with the realists in society, so that's what it comes down to.

and omg--- and they killed millions and millions.
 
Yyyyyyeah.... nothing to see here folks! Move along! These are not the droids you are looking for... :eusa_whistle:

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan." - Barack Obama - YouTube

Obama promises transparency - YouTube

Seriously folks - only a Dumbocrat could see indisputable evidence of Obama on VIDEO lying and make the outrageous & absurd claim that there is no "proof" that Obama has lied :banghead:
when you have some actual proof and not some edited video, we will take you serious ... still waiting for that so-called lie he told ... next!!!!!

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Now the videos are "edited"?!?!

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They edit it when they feel that he wishes he had said that, forgot to say that, or that it's for our own good. Like the world "terrorism," perhaps?
 
#135- Not lies, just total BS Pub propaganda, hater dupe. Ain't the Pub Propaganda Machine great, organizing all that BULLSHYTTE for you? Read something from a real journalist.


Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?


Nobody is, they have temporary waivers. Congress can do what they want.

Ladies & Gentlemen - I give you the profound stupidity of the libtard Dumbocrat.

"Congress can do what they want" - francoHFW

The left in this country is so profoundly ignorant (and brainwashed), they actually believe that amazing statement. They have no idea about the limitations the U.S. Constitution imposes on the federal government - including congress.
 
Why are some people exempted from Obamacare ?


Nobody is, they have temporary waivers. Congress can do what they want.

I know but why the waivers?

Because "Socialism is for the people, not the Socialist"

The people who supported Obamacare (Obama, Pelosi, Reid, unions, libtards, etc.) know that it is crap and they don't want to be forced to live with it. Sadly though, they want everyone else to be forced to live with it...
 
I just don't think Communism of any kind is good for the world. The pitch of promising things that destroy people's incentives has never worked out. Lies have to be told in order to for that kind of a society, then when 60% of the population objects, the liars have to kill them.

Communism is a failed system that puts power in the hands of groups who must be protected on all sides. The only way that can be accomplished cheaply is to kill people. That's what the Soviet Socialists did, that's what the Chinese did under Mao.

The dead people never come back to complain. Liars really don't want to deal with the realists in society, so that's what it comes down to.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.

Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.

Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.


While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians
 
I just don't think Communism of any kind is good for the world. The pitch of promising things that destroy people's incentives has never worked out. Lies have to be told in order to for that kind of a society, then when 60% of the population objects, the liars have to kill them.

Communism is a failed system that puts power in the hands of groups who must be protected on all sides. The only way that can be accomplished cheaply is to kill people. That's what the Soviet Socialists did, that's what the Chinese did under Mao.

The dead people never come back to complain. Liars really don't want to deal with the realists in society, so that's what it comes down to.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.

Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.

Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.


While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

I still didn't get an answer on the waivers. Why the waivers ?
 
I just don't think Communism of any kind is good for the world. The pitch of promising things that destroy people's incentives has never worked out. Lies have to be told in order to for that kind of a society, then when 60% of the population objects, the liars have to kill them.

Communism is a failed system that puts power in the hands of groups who must be protected on all sides. The only way that can be accomplished cheaply is to kill people. That's what the Soviet Socialists did, that's what the Chinese did under Mao.

The dead people never come back to complain. Liars really don't want to deal with the realists in society, so that's what it comes down to.

The Soviet Union officially abandoned socialism in 1921 when Lenin instituted the New Economic Policy allowing for taxation, local trade, some state capitalism... and extreme profiteering. Later that year, he purged 259,000 from the party membership and therefore purged them from voting (shades of the US election of 2000!) and fewer and fewer people were involved in making decisions.

Socialism is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the economy works. Democracy is liberal. More people (preferably everyone) have some say in how the government works. "Democracy," said Marx, "is the road to socialism." He was wrong about how economics and politics interact, but he did see their similar underpinnings.

Communism is conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just the Party Secretary) have any say in how the economy works. Republicans are conservative. Fewer and fewer people (preferably just people controlling the Party figurehead) have any say in how the government works. The conservatives in the US are in the same position as the communists in the 30s, and for the same reason: Their revolutions failed spectacularly but they refuse to admit what went wrong.


While not all conservatives are authoritarians; all highly authoritarian personalities are political conservatives.
Robert Altmeyer - The Authoritarians

I still didn't get an answer on the waivers. Why the waivers ?

It's not my job to train parrots. LOOK it up, there are legitimate reasons.
 

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