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No they arent.Rights are how we interact with other humans.
What rights would you need on a desert island alone?
You talk as if the government is some amorphous “other “
It is US. We are the government.
where did I say anything about the power you have over me??Wow. I had no idea that I had that kind of power over you
You make a false declaration and then proceed from there.No they arent.
Right to life
Right to liberty
Right to free speech
Right to self determination
Right to freely associate
Right to worship what I want
etc etc.
Again if your "rights" come from a Government they aren't rights anymore they are privileges. A right is something I have whether you want me to or not. A government might be able to suppress that right but I still have that right. Not so much with privileges.
Their rights are most definitely different from ours.So rights only exist in the US? Do people in the Congo not have rights? Are their rights different than ours?
and our laws say our rights are protected by governments not given by them,,You make a false declaration and then proceed from there.
Our LAWS either protect or guarantee all those things.
And our laws come from agreements we make with each other
You think God grants you freedom speech??
Just stop
Pretty much what I said.and our laws say our rights are protected by governments not given by them,,
as stated in the oaths of office,,
"PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION"
It's not on me to prove unicorns, Santa Claus, Sky Daddy or mystical rights don't exist. It's on the person claiming they exist to prove that they do.Like if you deny a right exists, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.
I don't care how you want to phrase it you little pedantic pussy.You’re very simple.
Not what I said. I said some rights pre-existed any attempt to inscribe them into “law.” Do try to pay attention.
I believe laws govern how society operates. In some societies the laws restrain what the government or other people can do to you, under penalty of law, and in other societies its legal and just to stone people for being gay. That's reality. If you're gay and living in a society where being gay is punishable by death then what good is a non or pre legal right to life to you?Sorry. Youre being mindless. Do you believe that some legislature has to write down on some document somewhere that you have the right to life in order for you to have a right to be alive?
I don't mind you asking your own questions but that doesn't let you off of mine.You’re being dense. They are innate. Flip the question around.
I dont even know what that means outside of the legal sense. What is a pre legal right? You still havent explained it. All I've gotten from you so far is that its innate. That isnt very helpful. How can I know if someone has something if you can't even explain to me what that something is?Who has any right to sniff out your life.
If there are no laws preventing him, who cares? What sense does that question even make? Does he have to ask permission from some guild? How does your fantasy pre legal society operate? Let's set the scene. We're pre law and someone is trying to kill me, do you have me asking by what right he's trying to assault me? Why the fuck would that be the most pertinent thing at the moment?By virtue of what possible claim of any right would your killer have a right to kill you?
I think if they're real we should be able to either touch them, taste them, hear them, see them or feel them. For instance the weight of the justice system can be felt by the enforcement of the police, the judgement of a court or the despair of a prison cell. What tangibility marks the presence of pre legal rights?Try that one in English, maybe? You think rights can be touched?
Sure, that why all I've gotten out of you so far is that they're innate.Unlike you, you quivering coward, don’t need to use “phone a friend.” All of this is vastly above and beyond your severely limited intellect. And I have answered.
On the contrary I care slightly about the amusement your simple arguments bring me.You don’t care for the answers. That’s tough shit, you fucking goober.
So how what else you got other than "they're innate"?No need. Already done.
No need. I’m not a quivering cowardly ignorant twat like you.
I already enjoyed your fail. Although, you keep dipping into your inexhaustible well of fail and seem almost surprised that that’s all you can come up with.
Sucks to be a massive cowardly moron like you.
they come from our creator and its the governments job to protect them,, we already have them,,Pretty much what I said.
Couch seems to think our rights come from God… or something
Why can’t God protect them then. He’s all powerful right?they come from our creator and its the governments job to protect them,, we already have them,,
Are humans not animals? What creationist biology class did you graduate from?Nah you’re merely projecting your own untenable philosophy and its utter futility on to others.
If you believe that, then feel free to surrender any claim of any right you’ve ever had or been told you have. Accept that you are a mere animal with no rights. It’s ok with me if you choose to be a subservient failure as a human. You’ve clearly had years of practice.
What?
Contrary to your sullen, surly and servile attitude, I have always maintained that rights (a) exist and (b) deserve to be protected.
I have no idea what the fuck a moron like you is babbling about.
Let's say there is no government and I duct tape your mouth shut. What right to free speech do you actually have at that moment? And since there are no laws, who holding me accountable?No they arent.
Right to life
Right to liberty
Right to free speech
Right to self determination
Right to freely associate
Right to worship what I want
etc etc.
Again if your "rights" come from a Government they aren't rights anymore they are privileges. A right is something I have whether you want me to or not. A government might be able to suppress that right but I still have that right. Not so much with privileges.
why do you keep bring god into it??Why can’t God protect them then. He’s all powerful right?
Why is it all the things that nature gave us we can detect and verify exist except for rights?why do you keep bring god into it??
as I correctly stated our laws clearly show our rights come from our creator and its the governments job to protect them,,
and before you say he says they come from god maybe thats who he considers his creator,,, other may believe in a different creator,,
Correct. Some people have more ability than others. That's reality. Nothing can be done about that. I can't play professional baseball.Abilities aren't rights. The pretense is supposed to be rights are equal, innit? Clearly ability is not.
Lol, no. That's a republican thing. I'm a live and let live kinda guy.Nah you’re merely projecting your own untenable philosophy and its utter futility on to others.
Not what I said at all, but cool try at deflecting.If you believe that, then feel free to surrender any claim of any right you’ve ever had or been told you have. Accept that you are a mere animal with no rights. It’s ok with me if you choose to be a subservient failure as a human. You’ve clearly had years of practice.
What do you think your rights are for? What good are they? Explain to me what you get from these rights.What?
Contrary to your sullen, surly and servile attitude, I have always maintained that rights (a) exist and (b) deserve to be protected.
I have no idea what the fuck a moron like you is babbling about.
You supporting the murder of babies while claiming moral high ground.What the fuck does this have to do with anything? I don't believe in mystical rights to life or a legal right for fetuses to gestate inside an unwilling woman. You're the one who argued about governments who claim their rights coming from God being some sort of benevolent heroes so I simply asked about their slaves. Do you have a response to that or are you going to bitch out again?
So the Founders didn't take away the rights of their slaves?
Sorry, it was insurrecting.No. It sure wasn’t. It wasn’t cheating at all, regardless of font size.
Why can’t God protect them then. He’s all powerful right?
The Dainty ^ is another sissy who contends that rights basically don’t actually exist. Typical libtard pussy.
