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The theory of evolution is an accepted fact for everyone but a fundamentalist minority, whose objections are based not on reasoning but on religious principles.Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
Yes, the probability of the Earth being positioned in an orbit exactly 92,960,000 miles from the sun is incredibility small when you consider all the other places the earth could have ended up. What you fail to consider is the universe is a hell a big place with a huge number of stars. Astronomers estimate that the observable universe has more than 100 billion galaxies. Our own Milky Way is home to around 300 billion stars. The probability that a planet revolving around one of those trillions of stars would be position an appropriate distance to support life as we know is likely to be very high. And this is just the known universe and life as we know it. This must all sound pretty silly to someone who believes the heavens and the earth were created in 7 days, 6,000 ago.Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
He also doesn't like murder, theft, or drunkenness. Guess we can't have laws against those.
Doesn't secular America have non religious laws to deal with those things?
Anyways, you missed the point. I'm just trying to explain to that other person why they shouldn't be allowed to say, "you just gotta have faith my big guy exists" and then try to pass laws that the big guy doesn't like.
We humans don't like murder or theft. No god needed. Your god is not necessary.
So it's only unpopular laws we shouldn't pass?
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
Doesn't secular America have non religious laws to deal with those things?
Anyways, you missed the point. I'm just trying to explain to that other person why they shouldn't be allowed to say, "you just gotta have faith my big guy exists" and then try to pass laws that the big guy doesn't like.
We humans don't like murder or theft. No god needed. Your god is not necessary.
So it's only unpopular laws we shouldn't pass?
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Now, to address what you said about laws being rooted only in logic and not in religious sentiment. Logic DOES dictate that those who consume more resources than they produce should be destroyed for the good of society. Logic DOES dictate that the infirm, mentally retarded, and elderly should be destroyed. You apparently want to deny anything that sounds like it came from a church, but want to encode your own moral sensitivity into law. That's not logical, and exposes a big problem in your approach. Now, as for your desire to destroy those with Down's Syndrome, don't you think you should get to know some of those you want to erase from the earth? Those with Down's are among the sweetest, kindest, most loving people you could ever hope to meet, yet you want to destroy them before they even have a chance to bring light and joy into the lives of others. How secular and logical of you. The fact that you even use the term "Mongoloid" exposes a great deal of your ignorance.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
Yes, the probability of the Earth being positioned in an orbit exactly 92,960,000 miles from the sun is incredibility small when you consider all the other places the earth could have ended up. What you fail to consider is the universe is a hell a big place with a huge number of stars. Astronomers estimate that the observable universe has more than 100 billion galaxies. Our own Milky Way is home to around 300 billion stars. The probability that a planet revolving around one of those trillions of stars would be position an appropriate distance to support life as we know is likely to be very high. And this is just the known universe and life as we know it. This must all sound pretty silly to someone who believes the heavens and the earth were created in 7 days, 6,000 ago.Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
Doesn't secular America have non religious laws to deal with those things?
Anyways, you missed the point. I'm just trying to explain to that other person why they shouldn't be allowed to say, "you just gotta have faith my big guy exists" and then try to pass laws that the big guy doesn't like.
We humans don't like murder or theft. No god needed. Your god is not necessary.
So it's only unpopular laws we shouldn't pass?
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Now, to address what you said about laws being rooted only in logic and not in religious sentiment. Logic DOES dictate that those who consume more resources than they produce should be destroyed for the good of society. Logic DOES dictate that the infirm, mentally retarded, and elderly should be destroyed. You apparently want to deny anything that sounds like it came from a church, but want to encode your own moral sensitivity into law. That's not logical, and exposes a big problem in your approach. Now, as for your desire to destroy those with Down's Syndrome, don't you think you should get to know some of those you want to erase from the earth? Those with Down's are among the sweetest, kindest, most loving people you could ever hope to meet, yet you want to destroy them before they even have a chance to bring light and joy into the lives of others. How secular and logical of you. The fact that you even use the term "Mongoloid" exposes a great deal of your ignorance.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
Doesn't secular America have non religious laws to deal with those things?
Anyways, you missed the point. I'm just trying to explain to that other person why they shouldn't be allowed to say, "you just gotta have faith my big guy exists" and then try to pass laws that the big guy doesn't like.
We humans don't like murder or theft. No god needed. Your god is not necessary.
So it's only unpopular laws we shouldn't pass?
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
Evolution is the last gasp for the atheist. It is the only hope he has left having denied God and accepted the second death option for himself.
Atheists will endeavor at all costs to prove the non-existence of God most especially to themselves. They think if they are successful in having everyone accept the myths of evolution, then God will simply just go away and they will escape the reward for the choice they have made.
We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
Youtube
4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
So it's only unpopular laws we shouldn't pass?
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Now, to address what you said about laws being rooted only in logic and not in religious sentiment. Logic DOES dictate that those who consume more resources than they produce should be destroyed for the good of society. Logic DOES dictate that the infirm, mentally retarded, and elderly should be destroyed. You apparently want to deny anything that sounds like it came from a church, but want to encode your own moral sensitivity into law. That's not logical, and exposes a big problem in your approach. Now, as for your desire to destroy those with Down's Syndrome, don't you think you should get to know some of those you want to erase from the earth? Those with Down's are among the sweetest, kindest, most loving people you could ever hope to meet, yet you want to destroy them before they even have a chance to bring light and joy into the lives of others. How secular and logical of you. The fact that you even use the term "Mongoloid" exposes a great deal of your ignorance.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
Then someone should teach them to you. I don't think you have to lie to children about an invisible man watching their every move and who created a hell for them if they are naughty is necessary. Or its ok to tell kids about God but when they get older, don't try to continue telling them the lie and tell them they'll go to hell.
Basically adult Christians are like children who believe in Santa Clause.
So it's only unpopular laws we shouldn't pass?
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Now, to address what you said about laws being rooted only in logic and not in religious sentiment. Logic DOES dictate that those who consume more resources than they produce should be destroyed for the good of society. Logic DOES dictate that the infirm, mentally retarded, and elderly should be destroyed. You apparently want to deny anything that sounds like it came from a church, but want to encode your own moral sensitivity into law. That's not logical, and exposes a big problem in your approach. Now, as for your desire to destroy those with Down's Syndrome, don't you think you should get to know some of those you want to erase from the earth? Those with Down's are among the sweetest, kindest, most loving people you could ever hope to meet, yet you want to destroy them before they even have a chance to bring light and joy into the lives of others. How secular and logical of you. The fact that you even use the term "Mongoloid" exposes a great deal of your ignorance.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
I have a relative who has a kid with slight autism. I don't think that is any kind of life. Not for the kid and not for her. I would have late term aborted if I knew my kid was going to come out like that. And if you would let us do stem cell research maybe we could prevent this from happening in the future. But for you we will make sure your kids have it because you think it is sweet, cute and adorable. You can continue to think that when the kid is in his 20's if he lives that long. And worry about what the hell is going to happen to it after you die if it out lives you. I'm a Spartan. I'd throw it in the pit if I could. No seriously I'd give it a lethal shot at birth if the law allowed.
And I don't want to get off topic with you on how you think we need religion to have morality. Religion is a great way for bad people to feel good about themselves. Not necessary. I don't murder people because I don't want to go to jail and because I wouldn't want someone to murder someone I care about. I have empathy. No god needed.
P.S. If I had a Down Syndrom baby, no one would love the little bastard more than I would. BUT, I have to admit, if I knew ahead of time I would put it out of it's misery and mine. Because raising that kid would be horrible. I know you would get use to it and you would love it but fuck that. Same way I wouldn't put my mother down right now even though she's going through Alzheimers. I know that the old her would want to be dead rather than to be living the way she is right now. I would too. Who wants to live like that? What kind of life is that? Plus the stress on my dad and his pocket book if he ever has to put her in a home. Euthenasia should be legal in all 50 states, not just a few of them. Same way Gordy Howe had to fly to California to get good stem cell help because it is illegal in Michigan. Why? Because of God who does not even exist?
Reading through some of the posts it becomes clear that much of the opposition to the theory of evolution is based on the lack of understanding of scientific terms. When used in non-scientific context, the word “theory” implies that something is unproven or speculative. As used in science, however, a theory is an explanation or model based on observation, experimentation, and reasoning, especially one that has been tested and confirmed as a general principle helping to explain and predict natural phenomena.Yes, the probability of the Earth being positioned in an orbit exactly 92,960,000 miles from the sun is incredibility small when you consider all the other places the earth could have ended up. What you fail to consider is the universe is a hell a big place with a huge number of stars. Astronomers estimate that the observable universe has more than 100 billion galaxies. Our own Milky Way is home to around 300 billion stars. The probability that a planet revolving around one of those trillions of stars would be position an appropriate distance to support life as we know is likely to be very high. And this is just the known universe and life as we know it. This must all sound pretty silly to someone who believes the heavens and the earth were created in 7 days, 6,000 ago.We have very good evidence evolution is real and god was made up. And I promise you I have no evil motive behind not liking religion. And it is not the devil in me. If you come back with that, that makes you stupid.
I just remembered a scene in the Cosmos. The religious establishment laughed at the pStar Trekerson who came up with Tactonic Plates and the theory that the earth use to be one big continent but then broke apart. PangeaEvery. The religious establishment insisted that there was a land bridge that the animals crossed but scientifically that argument has so many holes it makes no sense. But for years the establishment laughed at the idea. The scientist died before his theory was proven true. Why does the religious establishment fight science so much? Because religion is and has always been so wrong about everything. You think your religion is perfect? Sure after being edited for thousands of years by kings and popes.
The earth is still connected. Believe it or not, get down below the water and you will find a dirt bottom that you could walk over from one region of the earth to the other. The earth is still connected, it just has a few mud puddles in the way now.
Evolution is a bunch of myths, fables, and science fiction. Star Trek is just as real. Nothing about evolution can be substantiated Every aspect of evolution is a mathematical impossibility. Evolution has been rife with hoax and corruption. Every missing link has been proven a hoax or misrepresentation. Myth and fraud.
What about Plate Tectonics? The earth is alive. Did god reveal that or science?
So you think God sat down and designed each and every one of the millions of beatles that exist today? They didn't all evolve from a single species?
Many scientists and philosophers of science have described evolution as fact and theory, a phrase which was used as the title of an article by Stephen Jay Gould in 1981. He describes fact in science as meaning data, not absolute certainty but "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent." A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of such facts. The facts of evolution come from observational evidence of current processes, from imperfections in organisms recording historical common descent, and from transitions in the fossil record. Theories of evolution provide a provisional explanation for these facts
Religion is the myth. Religion(s) don't hold up to the test that the theory of evolution passed. Sorry dummy.
(1) Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me.
(2) Think for yourself. Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
(3) Test ideas by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well-designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
(4) Follow the evidence wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
And perhaps the most important rule of all...
(5) Remember: you could be wrong. Even the best scientists have been wrong about some things. Newton, Einstein, and every other great scientist in history -- they all made mistakes. Of course they did. They were human.
Science is a way to keep from fooling ourselves, and each other. You're fooling yourself. Know what that makes you? A fool.
It is hard for you to understand because evolution happens over millions of years. Want to see a great example? Look at a Poodle or Chawawa. Know where they came from? The wolf. We made them by picking the traits we liked. So we know evolution is real. It is accepted as fact. Anyone who challenges it is now the nut job were in the past people believed religion. Why is religion losing? Because it doesn't stand the scientific test and never will. You have to be dumb and have faith.
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4 Billion Years of Evolution in 40 Seconds
You came from a bacteria. Then a fish, then a small mammal, then a monkey then man. Took millions of years.
I'll go with what science says, you go with a book written 1000's of years ago by superstitious ignorant controlling rules/priests/societies.
- Question authority. No idea is true just because someone says so, including me. Think for yourself.
- Question yourself. Don't believe anything just because you want to. Believing something doesn't make it so.
- Test ideas, by the evidence gained from observation and experiment. If a favorite idea fails a well designed test, it's wrong. Get over it.
- Follow the evidence, wherever it leads. If you have no evidence, reserve judgment.
- And perhaps even the most important rule of all: remember you could be wrong. Even the best scientist have been wrong about somethings. Newton, Einstein, and ever other great scientist in history. They all made mistakes. Of course they did, their were human. Science is a way keep from fooling ourselves and each other.
What I'm saying is for the earth to even have been positioned where it is by sheer happenstance is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single asexual cell to have come out of some slime pit, mutated and divided into anything at all is a mathematical impossibility.
For a single cell to have ever mutated and divided into even a four cell organism is such an impossibility that one could not write the number of zeros in a single day.
Evolution is a myth, a mathematical impossibility. Even most all of your missing links have been proven to be hoaxes.
Venus and Mars had water and life on them at one time, so they think. They're checking now to see if that is correct. Venus went through a green house gas issue and lost all it's water and oxygen. It was unavoidable. That's how they know what we are doing with burning coal is dangerous. We're doing the same thing to our planet and we could wipe ourselves out. Again, I'm not an expert and can't explain everything perfectly. That's why all theists need to watch the old and new Cosmos before or after they read the old and new Testament.
They were also explaining how life may have come from Mars??? When meteors hit planets they send rock up into space and they go between planets. So when a big meteor hit earth and wiped out all life once, eventually after the earth cooled back down another meteor with bacteria or life on it fell into water and life picked back up.
Who knows how many of these theories are fact or just theory. Doesn't matter. I like how they came up with them. Through the scientific approach. Not because some ancient book or old outdated controlling corrupt Church said so. All of these theories are open for debate.
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Now, to address what you said about laws being rooted only in logic and not in religious sentiment. Logic DOES dictate that those who consume more resources than they produce should be destroyed for the good of society. Logic DOES dictate that the infirm, mentally retarded, and elderly should be destroyed. You apparently want to deny anything that sounds like it came from a church, but want to encode your own moral sensitivity into law. That's not logical, and exposes a big problem in your approach. Now, as for your desire to destroy those with Down's Syndrome, don't you think you should get to know some of those you want to erase from the earth? Those with Down's are among the sweetest, kindest, most loving people you could ever hope to meet, yet you want to destroy them before they even have a chance to bring light and joy into the lives of others. How secular and logical of you. The fact that you even use the term "Mongoloid" exposes a great deal of your ignorance.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
Then someone should teach them to you. I don't think you have to lie to children about an invisible man watching their every move and who created a hell for them if they are naughty is necessary. Or its ok to tell kids about God but when they get older, don't try to continue telling them the lie and tell them they'll go to hell.
Basically adult Christians are like children who believe in Santa Clause.
It sounds an awful lot like you're saying that YOUR morality is okay, YOUR illogical responses are healthy and normal, YOUR ideas are fine to put into law, but when someone with nearly identical morality, responses, and ideas wants to influence society, your response is to run for the hills.
On the contrary. We should use logic to re think our laws, just like we did the law that said blacks couldn't marry whites. Google stupid laws of old and see that going by what is popular doesn't always work. Consider how dumb the masses are. They believe in invisible men and heaven without any proof. This is why modern Europe and America and ancient Greece were so smart. They were free to think and question and they didn't have a moral authority suppressing them. You learn this if you watch the Cosmos.
I think the Constitution is one of the greatest books, not the bible. We have a great secular society. The problem was back when church and state were one. And you still believe that corrupt story/religion/society? Wake up man. Everyone thinks god loves them and hates their enemies. Even your enemies think this.
Oh, and many of the great minds of the past also believed in god. They looked into it and never discovered anything. They tried to investigate and experiment with the cult and miracles. Nothing ever came of it. It was only raw science that explained who we are, where we are, how we got here. We don't know how or why exactly. So lets keep looking. When you find a god please come show us your findings. Until then, keep looking.
Logic dictates that the elderly not consume more resources than they generate, and that the mentally retarded by destroyed. Logic dictates that only the strong be allowed to remain alive, and that illness and age carry an automatic death sentence.
Absolutely not. Is that what theists believe? Then you are sick. Scientific Atheists/Progressives would suggest that you take care of the less fortunate. That means YOU pay more taxes to take care of the sick and poor. But you don't want our society to do that. You want charity/church to do it. And we see how bad a job they are doing. You're basically saying you don't want to solve the problem. Sick. This is why I say religion is evil and hypocritical.
Now if you mean late term abort a mongaloid fetus in the last trimester? I would say yes
When we left England and the Church of England, we came to America and started a secular nation that gave everyone rights, life, liberty, persuit of happyness. Very liberal thing to do wouldn't you say? Or are you suggesting that YOUR SIDE wanted to separate church and state? Liar. I thought you bible thumpers weren't suppose to lie?
You have sick logic.
Humans aren't as good as we should be in our capacity to empathize with feelings and thoughts of others, be they humans or other animals on Earth. So maybe part of our formal education should be training in empathy. Imagine how different the world would be if, in fact, that were 'reading, writing, arithmetic, empathy.'
Read more at Neil deGrasse Tyson Quotes- BrainyQuote
See how rapidly your response devolved into puzzling petulant personal attacks? Sad.
Now, to address what you said about laws being rooted only in logic and not in religious sentiment. Logic DOES dictate that those who consume more resources than they produce should be destroyed for the good of society. Logic DOES dictate that the infirm, mentally retarded, and elderly should be destroyed. You apparently want to deny anything that sounds like it came from a church, but want to encode your own moral sensitivity into law. That's not logical, and exposes a big problem in your approach. Now, as for your desire to destroy those with Down's Syndrome, don't you think you should get to know some of those you want to erase from the earth? Those with Down's are among the sweetest, kindest, most loving people you could ever hope to meet, yet you want to destroy them before they even have a chance to bring light and joy into the lives of others. How secular and logical of you. The fact that you even use the term "Mongoloid" exposes a great deal of your ignorance.
Empathy, sympathy, and compassion are not logical.
I have a relative who has a kid with slight autism. I don't think that is any kind of life. Not for the kid and not for her. I would have late term aborted if I knew my kid was going to come out like that. And if you would let us do stem cell research maybe we could prevent this from happening in the future. But for you we will make sure your kids have it because you think it is sweet, cute and adorable. You can continue to think that when the kid is in his 20's if he lives that long. And worry about what the hell is going to happen to it after you die if it out lives you. I'm a Spartan. I'd throw it in the pit if I could. No seriously I'd give it a lethal shot at birth if the law allowed.
And I don't want to get off topic with you on how you think we need religion to have morality. Religion is a great way for bad people to feel good about themselves. Not necessary. I don't murder people because I don't want to go to jail and because I wouldn't want someone to murder someone I care about. I have empathy. No god needed.
P.S. If I had a Down Syndrom baby, no one would love the little bastard more than I would. BUT, I have to admit, if I knew ahead of time I would put it out of it's misery and mine. Because raising that kid would be horrible. I know you would get use to it and you would love it but fuck that. Same way I wouldn't put my mother down right now even though she's going through Alzheimers. I know that the old her would want to be dead rather than to be living the way she is right now. I would too. Who wants to live like that? What kind of life is that? Plus the stress on my dad and his pocket book if he ever has to put her in a home. Euthenasia should be legal in all 50 states, not just a few of them. Same way Gordy Howe had to fly to California to get good stem cell help because it is illegal in Michigan. Why? Because of God who does not even exist?
I don't know what rock you've been under, but no one has stopped or prevented stem cell research, at least the research that doesn't involve killing something first. It's going fine, and in fact has produced several useful treatments. Nice to know your logic is kicking in a little bit there, wanting to put down the less fortunate and all. Can't have them inconveniencing anyone, after all. Just take them out to the barn and shoot 'em. Be better for everyone. Nice and logical.
One of Baby Bush's first acts as president was to ban government money for stem cell research. Even Nancy Reagan came out against Bush. It was at that moment that the straw dropped on the camel, and broke his back. I have been a democrat ever since.
