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I’m afraid it is you that is living in a fantasy land. You seem to think that legislation was passed and suddenly unicorns were farting daisies. It didn’t happen that way. It still hasn’t happened that way.Politicians deciding something in DC did not change society and culture.You think that centuries of ingrained racism can be erased in a generation? Civil rights only passed in the LATE 60s. It is going to take a lot longer than 50 years to remove all the tentacles that have wound their way into our system and culture.
What is wrong with examining why racial inequality still persists, even decades after these laws have passed? How do you fix it if you don’t know why it keeps going?
America's system is a TWO PARTY system. THe reasons are not important in this context.
For quite a while the republicans were pushing for racial equality for blacks, and the democrats were fighting that.
When the dems stopped fighting it, and started supporting it, suddenly in just a few years, Racists had no voice in national policy.
The moral and intellectual Debate, they had already lost well before that.
At that point, White Racists became marginalized. I grew up not long after wards and ALL the education and media and culture I got, supported the BI-Party line, of racial equality and blah, blah, blah, to the point I was bored with it. Indeed, i did not understand as a child why they kept harping on it.
For most people today, the time when white racism was openly practiced and had real political power and actual policy based on their agenda, seems...like another world.
TODAY, and indeed, even then, though not as bad as now, the message is not "examining why racial inequality still exists", but ASSUMING any inequality is because of Wacism and blaming white people and mobilizing EVERYTHING to fight it/them.
ANY voice raised, discussing an "inequality" that says ANTHING, other than "white people's fault" is dogpiled and shouted down with cries of wacism.
This is tearing this nation apart. It is teaching blacks that whites hate them, and teaching whites that they are always going to be fucked and discriminated against.
After all, if there is an "inequality" and the cause is NOT evul whites, but the solution implemented is based on the idea that is it evul whites, whites will be punished and suffer for shit that they did not do.
Blacks don’t have to be taught that a lot of whites hate them, believe stereotypes about them, fear them…they live it every day. That you refuse to see it just perpetuates it.
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I like the way you dismiss law and national policy as "politicians deciding something".
My parents were working class dems, from the Depression Era. They were primary motivated by the Union culture of the Rust Belt. Based on what I saw, long after the fact, the long standing alliance of the dem party to southern racists must have been a negative that they were forced to ignore because of overriding economic issues.
When the politicians flipped on that issue, it would not have been a problem for working class dems in the Rust Belt. They were already there on that issue, long before the Party that they supported DESPITE their racist allilance.
You are living in a fantasy land, where you imagine that your enemies are villains, so that you can be the hero.
Racism was baked into our system for centuries and you think it can be a erased in a couple of decades?
I addressed that point. My point was that, imo, the dem party was FOLLOWING society, not the other way around.
I supported my point, with personal observation of my family and community in the Rust Belt.
You ignored everything I said, and just repeated your previous assertion, with a sprinkling of hyperbole and ridicule.
That sort is far too fearful of their masters to dare to budge an inch from the talking points.
Well, can you blame them? THey know better than anyone how the lib mob has no mercy in it, at all.
But.....yes, I blame them.