Our Second Amendment ensures, we always have an army group in reserve.

Yes, an ill equipped, poorly trained, poor logistics that will just get in it's own way. Any group of Iranian trained terrorist group will mop the place up with your "Army". It takes at least a year to get your "Army" ready for combat from day one. And even then, you will want to mix them in with veteran troops who will try and keep the alive long enough so that they have a chance to become veterans themselves. Left to it's own devices, your "Army" is more dangerous to itself and those around it than they are to the enemy.
it is more about the possibility potential.

The day of the Militia is past. It's been past for at least 100 years. The cost of the weapons and the cost of the training has long since outpaced what any one state can afford. And it's certainly exceeded anything a private company or individual can afford as well. Only nations can afford those expenditures.
 
Our Second Amendment ensures, we always have an army group in reserve.

Yes, an ill equipped, poorly trained, poor logistics that will just get in it's own way. Any group of Iranian trained terrorist group will mop the place up with your "Army". It takes at least a year to get your "Army" ready for combat from day one. And even then, you will want to mix them in with veteran troops who will try and keep the alive long enough so that they have a chance to become veterans themselves. Left to it's own devices, your "Army" is more dangerous to itself and those around it than they are to the enemy.
it is more about the possibility potential.

The day of the Militia is past. It's been past for at least 100 years. The cost of the weapons and the cost of the training has long since outpaced what any one state can afford. And it's certainly exceeded anything a private company or individual can afford as well. Only nations can afford those expenditures.
no, it isn't.

we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

the right wing is just too lazy to muster and prove their "learning how to fish ethic"; they prefer affirmative action.
 
Our Second Amendment ensures, we always have an army group in reserve.

Yes, an ill equipped, poorly trained, poor logistics that will just get in it's own way. Any group of Iranian trained terrorist group will mop the place up with your "Army". It takes at least a year to get your "Army" ready for combat from day one. And even then, you will want to mix them in with veteran troops who will try and keep the alive long enough so that they have a chance to become veterans themselves. Left to it's own devices, your "Army" is more dangerous to itself and those around it than they are to the enemy.
it is more about the possibility potential.

The day of the Militia is past. It's been past for at least 100 years. The cost of the weapons and the cost of the training has long since outpaced what any one state can afford. And it's certainly exceeded anything a private company or individual can afford as well. Only nations can afford those expenditures.
no, it isn't.

we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

the right wing is just too lazy to muster and prove their "learning how to fish ethic"; they prefer affirmative action.

Okay, prove to me where you can muster an ARmy of civilians in a months time that is equipped to take on an Iranian Trained Terrorist Group that is comprised of 2000 troops with the weapons that they will possess? You have one month to train, equip and get your logistics in place. You need to tell me where you are going to get the supplies, weapons and the trainers from. And you have to do it without raising the worries of the Federal Government.

Just a short list of arms you will need

M-240 or M-60 MG (good luck on that one)
M-2 (Good luck on that one)
M-249 (good luck on that one)
M-230 (Good luck on that one)
Grenades (More good luck on that one)
Shall I keep going? The bad guy will have all that and more. Only in the movies will you be able to go up against a 12.7mm belt fed MG with a couple of AR-15s. And that RPG-7 will eat your Pickup Truck for lunch.
 
Our Second Amendment ensures, we always have an army group in reserve.

Yes, an ill equipped, poorly trained, poor logistics that will just get in it's own way. Any group of Iranian trained terrorist group will mop the place up with your "Army". It takes at least a year to get your "Army" ready for combat from day one. And even then, you will want to mix them in with veteran troops who will try and keep the alive long enough so that they have a chance to become veterans themselves. Left to it's own devices, your "Army" is more dangerous to itself and those around it than they are to the enemy.
it is more about the possibility potential.

The day of the Militia is past. It's been past for at least 100 years. The cost of the weapons and the cost of the training has long since outpaced what any one state can afford. And it's certainly exceeded anything a private company or individual can afford as well. Only nations can afford those expenditures.
no, it isn't.

we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

the right wing is just too lazy to muster and prove their "learning how to fish ethic"; they prefer affirmative action.

Okay, prove to me where you can muster an ARmy of civilians in a months time that is equipped to take on an Iranian Trained Terrorist Group that is comprised of 2000 troops with the weapons that they will possess? You have one month to train, equip and get your logistics in place. You need to tell me where you are going to get the supplies, weapons and the trainers from. And you have to do it without raising the worries of the Federal Government.

Just a short list of arms you will need

M-240 or M-60 MG (good luck on that one)
M-2 (Good luck on that one)
M-249 (good luck on that one)
M-230 (Good luck on that one)
Grenades (More good luck on that one)
Shall I keep going? The bad guy will have all that and more. Only in the movies will you be able to go up against a 12.7mm belt fed MG with a couple of AR-15s. And that RPG-7 will eat your Pickup Truck for lunch.
Not a problem, there are no natural rights in our Second Amendment;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
 
Yes, an ill equipped, poorly trained, poor logistics that will just get in it's own way. Any group of Iranian trained terrorist group will mop the place up with your "Army". It takes at least a year to get your "Army" ready for combat from day one. And even then, you will want to mix them in with veteran troops who will try and keep the alive long enough so that they have a chance to become veterans themselves. Left to it's own devices, your "Army" is more dangerous to itself and those around it than they are to the enemy.
it is more about the possibility potential.

The day of the Militia is past. It's been past for at least 100 years. The cost of the weapons and the cost of the training has long since outpaced what any one state can afford. And it's certainly exceeded anything a private company or individual can afford as well. Only nations can afford those expenditures.
no, it isn't.

we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

the right wing is just too lazy to muster and prove their "learning how to fish ethic"; they prefer affirmative action.

Okay, prove to me where you can muster an ARmy of civilians in a months time that is equipped to take on an Iranian Trained Terrorist Group that is comprised of 2000 troops with the weapons that they will possess? You have one month to train, equip and get your logistics in place. You need to tell me where you are going to get the supplies, weapons and the trainers from. And you have to do it without raising the worries of the Federal Government.

Just a short list of arms you will need

M-240 or M-60 MG (good luck on that one)
M-2 (Good luck on that one)
M-249 (good luck on that one)
M-230 (Good luck on that one)
Grenades (More good luck on that one)
Shall I keep going? The bad guy will have all that and more. Only in the movies will you be able to go up against a 12.7mm belt fed MG with a couple of AR-15s. And that RPG-7 will eat your Pickup Truck for lunch.
Not a problem, there are no natural rights in our Second Amendment;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

You didn't read Part 16 which excludes those that are part of the State Militia that are NOT eligible for recall for Federal Duty. These people cannot be called up unless the State gives it's consent. The State still has the right to have it's State Militia under the 2nd amendment. But the reason to have it these days is to support emergencies. Texas seems to be very busy in that department. And California has many of their State Militia involved in their Forest Fires.
 
it is more about the possibility potential.

The day of the Militia is past. It's been past for at least 100 years. The cost of the weapons and the cost of the training has long since outpaced what any one state can afford. And it's certainly exceeded anything a private company or individual can afford as well. Only nations can afford those expenditures.
no, it isn't.

we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.

the right wing is just too lazy to muster and prove their "learning how to fish ethic"; they prefer affirmative action.

Okay, prove to me where you can muster an ARmy of civilians in a months time that is equipped to take on an Iranian Trained Terrorist Group that is comprised of 2000 troops with the weapons that they will possess? You have one month to train, equip and get your logistics in place. You need to tell me where you are going to get the supplies, weapons and the trainers from. And you have to do it without raising the worries of the Federal Government.

Just a short list of arms you will need

M-240 or M-60 MG (good luck on that one)
M-2 (Good luck on that one)
M-249 (good luck on that one)
M-230 (Good luck on that one)
Grenades (More good luck on that one)
Shall I keep going? The bad guy will have all that and more. Only in the movies will you be able to go up against a 12.7mm belt fed MG with a couple of AR-15s. And that RPG-7 will eat your Pickup Truck for lunch.
Not a problem, there are no natural rights in our Second Amendment;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

You didn't read Part 16 which excludes those that are part of the State Militia that are NOT eligible for recall for Federal Duty. These people cannot be called up unless the State gives it's consent. The State still has the right to have it's State Militia under the 2nd amendment. But the reason to have it these days is to support emergencies. Texas seems to be very busy in that department. And California has many of their State Militia involved in their Forest Fires.
means nothing; we could be emptying some jails.
 
....or at least has a qualifier that's been added in modern times.
Ah yes...the old, tired, and idiotic “modern times” idiotic argument. You poor nitwit.

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we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.
And we wouldn’t if left-wing lunatics such as yourself would stop infringing on our 2nd Amendment right.
The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
 
we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.
And we wouldn’t if left-wing lunatics such as yourself would stop infringing on our 2nd Amendment right.
The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state.
No such “obligation” exists. You’re a prime example of why nobody takes the left seriously about anything.
 
we have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems in our free States.
And we wouldn’t if left-wing lunatics such as yourself would stop infringing on our 2nd Amendment right.
The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state.
No such “obligation” exists. You’re a prime example of why nobody takes the left seriously about anything.
that is the common law for the common defense. nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise.
 
means nothing; we could be emptying some jails.
Shocking. The left-wing nitwit wants to ban firearms while simultaneously freeing criminals.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be Infringed!
And yet here you sit here on USMB day in and day out advocating to infringe on the, (while simultaneously advocating for the release of criminals).
The security of a free State may require, an army group in reserve.
 
means nothing; we could be emptying some jails.
Shocking. The left-wing nitwit wants to ban firearms while simultaneously freeing criminals.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be Infringed!
And yet here you sit here on USMB day in and day out advocating to infringe on the, (while simultaneously advocating for the release of criminals).
The security of a free State may require, an army group in reserve.
Which is why we have a right to be armed. Which is why you sound like an idot claiming we don’t.
 
means nothing; we could be emptying some jails.
Shocking. The left-wing nitwit wants to ban firearms while simultaneously freeing criminals.
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be Infringed!
And yet here you sit here on USMB day in and day out advocating to infringe on the, (while simultaneously advocating for the release of criminals).
The security of a free State may require, an army group in reserve.
Which is why we have a right to be armed. Which is why you sound like an idot claiming we don’t.
that is your story gun lovers; my story is, Grab gun lovers and regulate them well; no need to grab guns.
 
that is your story gun lovers; my story is, Grab gun lovers and regulate them well; no need to grab guns.
If only the government was empowered to “grab people” (concentration camp) and then “regulate them” (indoctrination).

Thankfully, conservatives exist to stop that type of left-wing fascism.
 
that is your story gun lovers; my story is, Grab gun lovers and regulate them well; no need to grab guns.
If only the government was empowered to “grab people” (concentration camp) and then “regulate them” (indoctrination).

Thankfully, conservatives exist to stop that type of left-wing fascism.
right wingers don't know anything; thank Goodness our Founding Fathers did an most Excellent with our federal Constitution and supreme law of the land;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.”
— George Mason
 
The Second Amendment BEGINS

"A Well Regulated Militia Being Necessary...."

That phrase is in that very spare Amendment for a reason. It tells us WHY what follows is there.

Absent a "well regulated militia"...there is no Constitutional right to "bear arms".

We do not currently HAVE a "well regulated militia". At best...we have an "unorganized militia" that ONLY has MALES under 45 as potential members

Does that mean we don't have the right to own guns? We do within the confines of our state and local laws....
 

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