The definitive guide to the 2nd Amendment

[hadit]

the first clause says our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State.

So, then....what does the second clause say?

that the federal government cannot deny or disparage the People who are lgbt from keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union?

Nope. Try again.

 

[danielpalos]

that the federal government cannot deny or disparage the People who are lgbt from keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union?

Oh my god.

So, it protects gay people who want to serve in the military. That's what you're going with?

Why do I even bother with you?

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And what exactly am I threatening to do again? I do expose your bunch for what you. I remember that Hitler, Stalin, Moa, and many others also claimed to be Patriots. Much like your bunch does today. You just defend the parts of the Constitution that agrees with you and condemn the parts that don't. I defend the entire thing. You want to rewrite it to suit your own ends, cupcake. I paid the price and people like me also paid for it with out blood and life. I keep a copy of it on my desk and the reason I rip your sorry asses so bad is it's at my finger tips. The reason you are ripped up so badly is that you misinterpret it over and over again by only reading part of it that suits your own agenda. Your bunch are about as much patriots as every other world wanna be dictator like Mousilini and Stalin. They called themselves "Socialists" but were in fact "Dictators". You call yourself "Patriot" when you are in fact a "Traitor". Therefore, you are the enemy of the state.

Yes, we know you’re a gun grabber...

So, you ran out of an argument since I hit you dead on the head. So you resort to your normal bag of short sentence lie. Good for you. I don't expect anything more from a traitor.

Your wanting into other peoples personal lives, Someone else’s firearm ownership is none of your fucking business.

But then again I don’t expect anything else from other progressive gun grabber like yourself

A Right is only a right until if infringes on some elses rights. In this case, when your coveted 2nd amendment thought be be absolute gun rights infringes on the 1st amendment rights of the right to the pursuit of the rights under public safety then the 1st amendment takes precedence. And it's not up to you nor I what the bar should be. It's up to each individual collective State and Local Government to make it safe for the people that live there. You have the right to vote for those people like I do. And that is called a Federal Republic. If you don't support that then you don't support the Constitution of the United States. Of course, I already know you don't support it so why bother.

Sorry, I’m not a criminal.
So my Ownership is none of your fucking business....

You support criminal activity, ergo, you are a criminal.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

So, you ran out of an argument since I hit you dead on the head. So you resort to your normal bag of short sentence lie. Good for you. I don't expect anything more from a traitor.

Your wanting into other peoples personal lives, Someone else’s firearm ownership is none of your fucking business.

But then again I don’t expect anything else from other progressive gun grabber like yourself

A Right is only a right until if infringes on some elses rights. In this case, when your coveted 2nd amendment thought be be absolute gun rights infringes on the 1st amendment rights of the right to the pursuit of the rights under public safety then the 1st amendment takes precedence. And it's not up to you nor I what the bar should be. It's up to each individual collective State and Local Government to make it safe for the people that live there. You have the right to vote for those people like I do. And that is called a Federal Republic. If you don't support that then you don't support the Constitution of the United States. Of course, I already know you don't support it so why bother.

There is no "1st amendment rights of the right to the pursuit of the rights under public safety" right, which is why your statement is nothing but gobbledy-gook.

Actually, it is taken from the Declaration of Independence.
Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

Which does not carry the weight of a Constitutional right.

Actually, in a court of law, it certainly does. You can try and use the letter of the law but it's the intent of the law that matters. In this case, the Constitution of the United States does mean Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness all the way through.

 

[hadit]

that the federal government cannot deny or disparage the People who are lgbt from keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union?

Oh my god.

So, it protects gay people who want to serve in the military. That's what you're going with?

Why do I even bother with you?

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!

And that's all that needs to be said.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

that the federal government cannot deny or disparage the People who are lgbt from keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union?

Oh my god.

So, it protects gay people who want to serve in the military. That's what you're going with?

Why do I even bother with you?

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!

And that's all that needs to be said.

Just as soon as the word "Infringed" is defined. It appears that the definition is all over the place and has been since the very day it was adopted.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!

You don't seem to know what that means.

 

[danielpalos]

that the federal government cannot deny or disparage the People who are lgbt from keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union?

Oh my god.

So, it protects gay people who want to serve in the military. That's what you're going with?

Why do I even bother with you?

The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!

And that's all that needs to be said.

Just as soon as the word "Infringed" is defined. It appears that the definition is all over the place and has been since the very day it was adopted.

it doesn't mean you lose your rights in private property.

 

[P@triot]

the first clause says our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State.

The second clause states that it is a right and it belongs to the people (not the militia). Game over, cupcake.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Just as soon as the word "Infringed" is defined. It appears that the definition is all over the place and has been since the very day it was adopted.

When terms in law are not defined, they are given their plain, ordinary meaning.

Thus:

"to act in a way that is against a law or that limits someone’s rights or freedom"

infringe Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

the first clause says our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State.

The second clause states that it is a right and it belongs to the people (not the militia). Game over, cupcake.

But, according do Dan's fucked up thinking, the People are the militia, but a person is not the militia. It's a difficult concept for mere mortals to comprehend.

 

[P@triot]

Well, viewing my trusty book on my desk, I am quite familiar with the 9th.

Quite familiar, my ass. I guarantee you couldn’t cite it without having looked it up 30 minutes ago after I mentioned it in a response.

Well, cupcake, you claim to be an expert on the subject. Expound, boy, expound.

What is there to “expound” on? Like the rest of the U.S. Constitution, it could not be more crystal clear.

“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

In other words, your rights are not limited to the Bill of Rights. Those were just the rights that the founders were so concerned about, they wanted them written in stone so that the government would never trample on them. Unfortunately, our founders didn’t consider on idiot progressives - who trample in them anyway.

 

[P@triot]

Just as soon as the word "Infringed" is defined.

It was “defined” hundreds of years ago. Stop being a left-wing idiot. Words have meaning.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Your wanting into other peoples personal lives, Someone else’s firearm ownership is none of your fucking business.

But then again I don’t expect anything else from other progressive gun grabber like yourself

A Right is only a right until if infringes on some elses rights. In this case, when your coveted 2nd amendment thought be be absolute gun rights infringes on the 1st amendment rights of the right to the pursuit of the rights under public safety then the 1st amendment takes precedence. And it's not up to you nor I what the bar should be. It's up to each individual collective State and Local Government to make it safe for the people that live there. You have the right to vote for those people like I do. And that is called a Federal Republic. If you don't support that then you don't support the Constitution of the United States. Of course, I already know you don't support it so why bother.

The right to keep and bear infringes on no one's rights.

The right to keep and bear is not equivalent to the right to shoot.

The act of carrying a firearm in no way hampers anyone else from exercising any of their guaranteed rights

The moment you fire your weapon at another there is no presupposition of innocence and you are responsible for justifying your actions.

Here we go again. Do you have the right to carry guns inside of places that sell or where alcohol is consumed? Usually, no. Unless you are a cop or a special case, do you have the right to enter either a cop shop or a court building with a gun? No usually. These are restrictions that limit your "Rights". According to you, these are "Unconstitutional". And you should ignore them. Yet, you don't ignore them for fear of reprisal by authorities. Sounds to me like you are all mouth and no action. A regular Internet Rexall Ranger.

None of what you say negates the FACT that carrying a weapon doesn't violate the rights of anyone.

If I am carrying how does it in any way violate any one of your Constitutional rights?

You are quissling bad. You should have brought a stool to sit in in your corner you painted yourself in.

No once again , feeble old man, you shot down your own argument

I said that carrying a gun in no way infringes upon the rights of others and you proceeded to list how my right to carry a gun is infringed upon by the government.

So tell me how am I infringing on your rights if I am carrying a gun.

 

[danielpalos]

the first clause says our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State.

The second clause states that it is a right and it belongs to the people (not the militia). Game over, cupcake.

lol. nothing but fallacy? The People are the Militia for Second Amendment purposes. You are either, well regulated or not.

 

[danielpalos]

the first clause says our Second Amendment is about the security of a free State.

The second clause states that it is a right and it belongs to the people (not the militia). Game over, cupcake.

But, according do Dan's fucked up thinking, the People are the militia, but a person is not the militia. It's a difficult concept for mere mortals to comprehend.

lol. only the right wing is that Useless.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Just as soon as the word "Infringed" is defined.

It was “defined” hundreds of years ago. Stop being a left-wing idiot. Words have meaning.

Then you tell us all the definition. I appears there are more than one "Definitions" in here. If words have meaning, let's air it out.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Well, viewing my trusty book on my desk, I am quite familiar with the 9th.

Quite familiar, my ass. I guarantee you couldn’t cite it without having looked it up 30 minutes ago after I mentioned it in a response.

Well, cupcake, you claim to be an expert on the subject. Expound, boy, expound.

What is there to “expound” on? Like the rest of the U.S. Constitution, it could not be more crystal clear.

“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

In other words, your rights are not limited to the Bill of Rights. Those were just the rights that the founders were so concerned about, they wanted them written in stone so that the government would never trample on them. Unfortunately, our founders didn’t consider on idiot progressives - who trample in them anyway.

Yes, I read it but it makes little sense. It never really did. Or it can mean anything I want it to mean. Since it really doesn't say anything at all we'll just leave it alone.

 

[danielpalos]

Natural rights are in State Constitutions and available via Due Process not our Second Amendment.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Just as soon as the word "Infringed" is defined. It appears that the definition is all over the place and has been since the very day it was adopted.

When terms in law are not defined, they are given their plain, ordinary meaning.

Thus:

"to act in a way that is against a law or that limits someone’s rights or freedom"

infringe Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary

Does that mean that if I am denied the right to possess, carry and own any kind of firearm that my right has been infringed?