The Democrat Party Should Be Dissolved

[playtime]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

Funny as I never surrendered. Have another.

 

[playtime]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

Funny as I never surrendered. Have another.

your non denial sure was.

i call that checkmate.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

Funny as I never surrendered. Have another.

your non denial sure was.

i call that checkmate.

Non denial? Easy. Do you support BDS, yes or no?

 

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I served in the Army of the United States in a war. Where did you serve?

so what. you honor a flag based on secession. not to mention the right to own people.

my father fought in WW2 & i'm married to a Marine. HE certainly honors the right flag.

LOL!

So you never served but yet you call an American that did serve honorably, in a war, a traitor?

That pretty much makes you an asshole, doesn't it?

How come you Moon Bats always have to prove that you are assholes? Can't you shitheads ever learn to keep your fucking mouths shut? You embarrassed yourself every time you post your ignorant hate.

why do you honor the CONfed flag?

lol........... you're dismissed.

What the hell do you honor? If you are a filthy Democrat you honor things that are destructive to this country.

Democrats are the scum of America. We all know that.

 

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I served in the Army of the United States in a war. Where did you serve?

She served meals to her family as she is a lifetime housewife. She is also a Leftist Loon.

Typical piece of shit Moon Bat. We see it often, don't we?

Not a proud poorly educated deplorable like you, isn't it?...

 

[playtime]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

Funny as I never surrendered. Have another.

your non denial sure was.

i call that checkmate.

Non denial? Easy. Do you support BDS, yes or no?

lol ... deflection.

when you called me antisemitic - it had nothing to do with anything about israel or BDS. so yer 1+1 doesn't = 2.

deflection rejected due to FAIL!

 

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I served in the Army of the United States in a war. Where did you serve?

so what. you honor a flag based on secession. not to mention the right to own people.

my father fought in WW2 & i'm married to a Marine. HE certainly honors the right flag.

LOL!

So you never served but yet you call an American that did serve honorably, in a war, a traitor?

That pretty much makes you an asshole, doesn't it?

How come you Moon Bats always have to prove that you are assholes? Can't you shitheads ever learn to keep your fucking mouths shut? You embarrassed yourself every time you post your ignorant hate.

why do you honor the CONfed flag?

lol........... you're dismissed.

What the hell do you honor? If you are a filthy Democrat you honor things that are destructive to this country.

Democrats are the scum of America. We all know that.

that's nice. but i am not a (D), have voted for many (R)s AND the Marine is a (R).

next?

 

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I served in the Army of the United States in a war. Where did you serve?

so what. you honor a flag based on secession. not to mention the right to own people.

my father fought in WW2 & i'm married to a Marine. HE certainly honors the right flag.

LOL!

So you never served but yet you call an American that did serve honorably, in a war, a traitor?

That pretty much makes you an asshole, doesn't it?

How come you Moon Bats always have to prove that you are assholes? Can't you shitheads ever learn to keep your fucking mouths shut? You embarrassed yourself every time you post your ignorant hate.

why do you honor the CONfed flag?

lol........... you're dismissed.

What the hell do you honor? If you are a filthy Democrat you honor things that are destructive to this country.

Democrats are the scum of America. We all know that.

that's nice. but i am not a (D), have voted for many (R)s AND the Marine is a (R).

next?

If that is the case you can improve everybody's perception of yourself considerably by not posting like a stupid Moon Bat.

 

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I served in the Army of the United States in a war. Where did you serve?

She served meals to her family as she is a lifetime housewife. She is also a Leftist Loon.

Typical piece of shit Moon Bat. We see it often, don't we?

Not a proud poorly educated deplorable like you, isn't it?...

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[AzogtheDefiler]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

Funny as I never surrendered. Have another.

your non denial sure was.

i call that checkmate.

Non denial? Easy. Do you support BDS, yes or no?

lol ... deflection.

when you called me antisemitic - it had nothing to do with anything about israel or BDS. so yer 1+1 doesn't = 2.

deflection rejected due to FAIL!

Epic fail. You didn’t answer the question and you’re a Holocaust denier.

 

[dudmuck]

> Did he use the CIA to hire a foreign spy to buy dirt on the opposition candidate in an attempt to rig an election?
I assume youre referring to Steele dossier. Nobody in the public knew about that dossier during 2016 campaign. It was only used for classified investigation. Dossier was only made public until Trump was in office.

Well, KGB John Brennan knew about it, he set Glenn Simpson and Christopher Steel together specifically due to the connections Steele had in Russia. Obviously Hillary knew, she hired Simpson to slander and libel the opposition candidate. Peter Strzok knew, he used the fabricated disinformation to illegally obtain FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.

Oh, and WHO ELSE KNEW?

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I think you communists staged your riots, rape, and looting to try and distract from Obamagate.

> Did he conspire with a CIA operative to engage in espionage against the sitting president in an attempted coup?

The impeachment process was followed according to constitution.

So, you can show me the article or amendment that establishes Soviet Star Chamber type proceedings?

The United States Constitution that you democrats are so violently attempting to overthrow says this;

{In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. }

Quite the opposite of Traitor Schitt's illegal and unconstitutional Star Chamber.

And don't forget Comrade Traitor, Schitt was forced to release the transcripts of his illegal proceeding which showed him and the entire traitor party to be FUCKING LIARS who engaged in an attempted coup. Witnesses testified the exact opposite of what Schitt claimed.

the FBI investigation was foreign influence in our election; they were doing their job. Obama wanted to know what Russian interference there was in our election process.
Obamagate? Barr took the wind out of its sails, its dead.
The impeachment trial is always in the senate. In this case, a republican senate. If you have problem with impeachment trial, talk to republicans in the senate.
The job of the house is to investigate to bring evidence for impeachment. This is what schiff did, in the house. Youre obviously uneducated on this subject since you dont know the difference between the House and Senate roles withe regards to impeachment. Learn the impeachment process, its not that hard, then you can simmer down because you'll have a clue. They were calling investigation into Schiff a year ago, nothing happend, transcripts released, nothing happened because Schiff was following impeachment procedure from constitution.

 

[Arresmillao]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

Nope. Never said Holocaust denier. Another Leftist lie.

You did call me an anti-semist... at least twice so not a lie maybe an oversimplification. I apologize though.

If you believe that Israel is an apartheid state while the 50+ Islamist nations are victims then you're an antisemite.

Here you go putting words in my mouth again. I swear to god you have the worst case of cognitive dissonance I've ever see. First, you object to me saying that you called me a holocaust denier. Rightfully so by the way hence the apology. And in the very next post, you put words in my mouth. Azog do you ever stop to examine yourself?

Reiterate what you said then? I'll apologize if I am mistaken.

Ok, what I said is that I object to certain actions the state of Israel engages in. Which I then further specified as at the moment the annexation of the west-bank. Not once did I claim Israel is an apartheid state or for that matter all 50+ Islamist nations are victims.

My bad. If you were in their shoes and surrounded by enemies and vilified by most sans some in the US, what would you do? If Mexico did to the US what the Palestine territories have done to Israel, there would be no more Mexico. I believe Israel has been very tolerant. It is actually illegal for Jews to enter most Islamist countries.

I could just as easily claim the same for the Palestinians only they don't have the weaponry to respond as forcefully as Israel. "Violence begets violence" it's that simple. Palestinians fire a mortar, Israel caries out an airstrike. Israel bulldozes Palestinian settlements, a suicide bomber blows up a bus in Haifa.

What you call tolerance, the Palestinians would call oppression. What I would call an exaggerated response you would call self-defense. I'm afraid that if peace in the Middle East will ever ever be possible compromises will have to be made. At the moment and I would argue for at least the last 50 years compromise has NOT been the strong suit of either side. That is not antisemitism but a simple statement of fact.

i never did any of that - i have never even had a conversation or debate about israel with him.

he demeaned himself & his people just to score a troll. he used to have a signature that called out black people for using the 'racist card' unjustifiably. he's done the exact same thing using antisemitism.

#hypocrite

Nah he just called me out. I don't think it was about you this time.

playtime wants it to be about her because she failed as a human being. Her only job, housewife. FAIL!

i accept your surrender.

Funny as I never surrendered. Have another.

your non denial sure was.

i call that checkmate.

Non denial? Easy. Do you support BDS, yes or no?

lol ... deflection.

when you called me antisemitic - it had nothing to do with anything about israel or BDS. so yer 1+1 doesn't = 2.

deflection rejected due to FAIL!

Epic fail. You didn’t answer the question and you’re a Holocaust denier.

Still asking questions deplorable? You need to go to school...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You’re a one trick pony

 

[emilynghiem]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

no doubt he did.

#pathetic #cowardly #can'tdebateworthadamn

I wouldn't go that far. The fact of the matter is that it's about par for the course of most people on this board, left or right. Setting up strawman arguments is something we all do sometimes either on purpose or inadvertently. In this case, it was on purpose of course but it is a debating tactic, not a very good one but still. I would and I have called Azog dishonest, that's about as far as I'd go.

Setting up straw men? So a black man resists arrest throws punches at the police, ends up getting shot, dies, then this gives the right to liberal/anarchists to riot and burn cities? Moderates are liberals too ashamed to admit they are liberals...just as stupid though.

Yes, that's a strawman because there are as far as I know exactly zero liberals that I know that have said anybody has the right to riot and burn cities. Feel free to give me an example of it but we both know you won't. That is in fact a strawman. See how that works?

There were some minority groups and even business owners
that would rather support the movement than protest the arson and looting:

âIt Was Something Bigger At Stake:â Lake Street Small Business Owners React To Destruction Of Their Shops During Protests Against Murder Of George Floyd

On stretches of the commercial throughway Lake Street in Minneapolis small businesses that were already struggling financially due to COVID-19 are now faced with the prospect of rebuilding from ashes.

www.forbes.com

Big Retailers Say They Don't Mind the Looting. It's Different for Small Businesses.

Small business owners who support #BlackLivesMatter have mixed feelings about the damage the riots may have to their livelihoods.

www.businessoffashion.com

Damaged Asian businesses show solidarity with Black Lives Matter protesters

“EVERYTHING IN MY STORE WILL BE REPLACEABLE,” one shop owner wrote, “while lives are being senselessly lost, on a way too regular basis, is the way bigger issue.”

www.nbcnews.com

Similar to L.A. and the Rodney King riots, the police at similar sites
were ordered to stand down, and not risk lives to protect property.

This is indirectly sending the message that the arson, riots and looting are valid forms of protest.

NOTE: What I would do is order blockades.
And anyone wishing to participate in protests sign agreements to comply
with all laws and authority, not commit crimes or take any action to invoke arrest, or they are required to leave.
And publicly announce on the news, and through every party precinct, police station, and public school
and all media outreach, that anyone caught in violation will
be part of the group held responsible for paying back ALL COSTS of damage and repair.

If it takes ALL residents of each district SIGNING this agreement in advance to be responsible for costs of crime or damage in the process of protesting, then that would put responsibility on residents and taxpayers to decide if they want protests in their districts.

If protesters agree to the costs of security and police, then they can get permits.

But if it costs too much, and nobody accepts responsibility,
then that isn't FREE SPEECH because the costs exceed the liberty exercised.

You have free speech, but not the right to impose costs on other people unless they consent to sponsor your protests.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

no doubt he did.

#pathetic #cowardly #can'tdebateworthadamn

I wouldn't go that far. The fact of the matter is that it's about par for the course of most people on this board, left or right. Setting up strawman arguments is something we all do sometimes either on purpose or inadvertently. In this case, it was on purpose of course but it is a debating tactic, not a very good one but still. I would and I have called Azog dishonest, that's about as far as I'd go.

Setting up straw men? So a black man resists arrest throws punches at the police, ends up getting shot, dies, then this gives the right to liberal/anarchists to riot and burn cities? Moderates are liberals too ashamed to admit they are liberals...just as stupid though.

Yes, that's a strawman because there are as far as I know exactly zero liberals that I know that have said anybody has the right to riot and burn cities. Feel free to give me an example of it but we both know you won't. That is in fact a strawman. See how that works?

There were some minority groups and even business owners
that would rather support the movement than protest the arson and looting:

âIt Was Something Bigger At Stake:â Lake Street Small Business Owners React To Destruction Of Their Shops During Protests Against Murder Of George Floyd

On stretches of the commercial throughway Lake Street in Minneapolis small businesses that were already struggling financially due to COVID-19 are now faced with the prospect of rebuilding from ashes.

www.forbes.com

Big Retailers Say They Don't Mind the Looting. It's Different for Small Businesses.

Small business owners who support #BlackLivesMatter have mixed feelings about the damage the riots may have to their livelihoods.

www.businessoffashion.com

Damaged Asian businesses show solidarity with Black Lives Matter protesters

“EVERYTHING IN MY STORE WILL BE REPLACEABLE,” one shop owner wrote, “while lives are being senselessly lost, on a way too regular basis, is the way bigger issue.”

www.nbcnews.com

Similar to L.A. and the Rodney King riots, the police at similar sites
were ordered to stand down, and not risk lives to protect property.

This is indirectly sending the message that the arson, riots and looting are valid forms of protest.

I do not believe it. Media is spinning it and these people feel obligated to say this due to fear. The “woke” don’t tolerate dissenters.

 

[Arresmillao]

You’re a one trick pony

How does it feel being a gullible cluless cult follower? BTW, stay away from the koolaid...

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You’re a one trick pony

How does it feel being a gullible cluless cult follower? BTW, stay away from the koolaid...

^^^ Triggered ^^^

Your next original thought will be your first.

 

[forkup]

No

Dang Democrats!

This is pipe dream shit meant to feed the n-I-g-g-e-r-s and the s-p-I-c-s because they're stupid enough to believe that shit.

Today blacks act like animals because they are BARELY evolved past the Ape and need a strong central figure (the white man) to keep them in place and acting like normal people.

Sick of their shit and we should not hide it anymore. When they call me a fucking racist, and I say you damn right I am!!! Fuck those fucking people!

Why do Browns ("people of color") feel compelled to steal, assault, rape, murder Whites, their obvious superior beings? Browns should be worshiping Whites instead of being jealous douchebag criminals.'

Blacks... prone to violence, think they're still in the jungle, low IQ blacks.

How can you look at the world and not see that ALL ADVANCEMENTS came from Europe and America? Yeah, we're the superior race on the earth. All others developed because of whites

Look, he is actually intelligent and an actual person of color! How often does that happen?

“We swear muthafuckers, you take our beaners from us and we’ll come for your guns one day” Filthy fucks!

MAGA! This is great news! Everything is falling into place so we can build the Wall and thwart this invasion of brown diseease ridden third worlders who are a threat to our sovereignty, culture and American traditions.

Being the elected representative of a bunch of dumbass ghetto Jungle Monkeys doesn't take intelligence. It take a ghetto dialect and a promise to get them more welfare.

Valerie Jarrett.... Is she that light skinned negro who looks like that ape in Planet of the Apes (negroes?)

I thought she was an ape...Next you'll be telling me Mooch isn't really a shaved wookie.

The asians made fun of obama.....the asians refer to negroes as 'monkey people' and not in jest....they are serious....and why shouldn't they be?

Pay the pavement ape or he will get very angry and burn his house down.

Yawn, Kambala wants every African American crack addict to have their own home while White, Red, and Yellow Americans some disabled vets rot on the street.

Nigga's acting like a Nigga...must be part of the Thugery... most blacks don't act like that!

I believe the black race is inferior to both the white and yellow races....I can prove it by taking a look at the world map and income, innovation/scientific discoveries, and prison populations. Maybe you have some other mysterious way of defining the word but you never seem to say what it is.

Most intelligent people understand how stupid blacks are....average i.q. of 85.....being one you should know.

Come on people you blacks are better than this shit every fucking week....stand BEHIND your police, you do the crime you get locked up...you fuck with THE MAN, he has every right to beat the shit out of you, and your community standing behind you just shows what stupid, low life idiots you are!

Fuck off House Negro. Shine my boots bitch

Hasn't it been proven, in the last few days, that blacks are incapable of living in the environment of civilization? Send them back to Africa.

..just like Africa is the shithole of the world, the black US communities mirror that

You can take a negro out of the ghetto. But you can't take the ghetto out of the negro.

No quotes from me? Whats the matter Mac? You Leftist Loon.

Kind of a weird thing to feel jealous about?

Where do you get the feeling that I am "jealous"? You missed the meaning behind my post entirely.

Could be. I personally feel that using other people's posts in order to make a point is a good debating tactic, and providing you don't completely take it out of context an honest tactic.

His premise is that all who disagree with him are racist. So I asked him to point to one of my posts that is racist. I vehemently disagree with Macs views. Doesn’t make me a racist. It just makes me logical. This is why he dodges me. I do not fit his narrative.

His premise, how I see it at least, is that there are plenty of people who are racist on this board. And that all of them are supporting Trump. If he didn't include you that's a good thing. He didn't make the argument as far as I can see that being a Trump supporter means you're racist. Feel free to go through this OP and use Mac's words against him and prove me wrong?

Plenty of racists and antisemites here on the other side too.

Define those terms please and then back that up? Speaking for myself, for instance, I don't like what the State of Israel is doing. They are grabbing land in my opinion that they don't have a right to. I don't hate Jews at all, I have no prejudice against them whatsoever. I do have a strong opinion though on the legitimacy of some of the actions they take. Do you consider that being an anti-Semite and if so do you feel one can have an opinion on anyone else without being bigoted?

State of Israel? You mean the people as Israel is a Democracy. Your post is idiotic. 53+ mostly Islamic countries and the safest place for a Muslim woman is in Israel. Only reason Israel is vilified is because it is a Jewish State. No one gives a shit about Islamists exterminating the Kurds. Or those in Lebanon treating Palestinians worse than dirt. Israel is an easy target. Your opinion is based on ignorance so yes you’re an antisemite. Your statement is like me saying, I dont dislike blacks at all except for those inner city blacks. You’re either uneducated or you’re an antisemite. Pick one.

No, I mean the state of Israel as in the nation and it's leader who at this moment although only supported by a minority of the populace is moving to not just occupy but full annex the West Bank. By the way, Democratically elected governments are fully capable of doing immoral stuff if you want I'll give you a history lesson. You inferring from my statements that I don't like stuff what Israel is doing based on me having a problem with Jews is a leap, to say the least. I don't need to dislike the Jewish people in order to condemn the country they inhabit for annexing territory belonging to someone else. As a matter of fact, My mother-in-law was Jewish.

This brings me to this. It's fascinating to me to see the cognitive dissonance displayed here. You reply to a post in an effort to call someone on a perceived inability to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as a whole and at the same time are perfectly willing to condemn me as anti-Semitic because I distinguish between the actions of individuals and the group as whole.

Israel is a democracy. The people there have been under attack for decades. The land is theirs. Read about it. The fact that you side with terror regimes speaks volumes

You know for someone who doesn't like being painted a racist because they support the GOP ( a claim that was never made btw), you are very eager to paint other people in a certain way because they support other things. You are right this conversation speaks volumes about someone, just not convinced it's about me it speaks. "You don't support Israel's annexation of the West Bank therefor you support terrorist regimes." You are missing a few steps in your reasoning there don't you think?

It is the same reasoning that one bad cop does a dirty deed, so the radicals go and burn cities and hurt innocent people, then want all police banned. Seems that you are missing a few brain cells.

I'm missing a few brain cells? I see. Do you think these people are only protesting because of this one bad cop? I know to acknowledge reality is probably fatal for some people but let me enlighten you under the presumption that you are actually capable of understanding reality. These people are protesting LOTS of bad cops. You don't have to sit on somebody's neck for almost nine minutes to be a bad cop. You can be a bad cop when you stop black people for no apparent reason. Or you can have a bad justice system when it systematically pronounces harsher sentences for the same crimes when you're black. And yes you are a really bad cop when you kill unarmed people.

I already said how I feel about the protests (unwise) and made it absolutely clear that I don't condone looting or hurting people (arrest and prosecute them) as MOST of the people who actually did protest don't either.

If it wasn’t just the one bad cop then why weren’t they protesting before this? Why weren’t they protesting as 1000s were dying in Chicago? Do tell. You feel all whites are racist? Silence = Violence.

Lol NOT protesting before this? Civil rights movement - Wikipedia quite a few protests here.
protests here Shooting of Tamir Rice - Wikipedia ,here Shooting of Michael Brown - Wikipedia here, The Mysterious Death of Freddie Gray here, Shooting of Philando Castile - Wikipedia oh and who can forget here, Rodney King - Wikipedia

How many more protests do you need?

Nothing like this. Don’t be obtuse.

I'm being obtuse? Azog I'm not the one claiming that protests against racial discrimination or against police brutality against blacks are a new phenomenon. You are quite funny I give you that.

This is new. Not since Rodney King has it been like this. So do you believe that silence is violence?

New means it never happened before. This is NOT new, not even close. As to silence is violence I understand the sentiment not sure I agree. It's not a new concept either.
“The world suffers a lot. Not because the violence of bad people. But because of the silence of the good people.”
Napoleon
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Not sure? Yes or no? If I choose to live my life and not opine, is that “violence”?

Nope. It also won't solve anything when you ignore problems. Why is it even relevant? I don't mind you deflecting like this but it is a bit random.

It’s not a deflection. These rallies are about guilt and not about substance.

Just because you ignore the substance doesn't mean it's not present. That is has substance is apparent from the fact that politicians on both sides are arguing for in some cases substantive measures in response to these protests. Something that wouldn't have happened without these protests.

I disagree. The protests will backfire. My wife was very sympathetic and now she has shifted the other way. I doubt She is the only one.

It's certain she's not the only one. On the other hand, it's also certain that these protests have made more people aware there is actually a problem. By the way, the reason your wife is losing sympathy for the protests is likely because you and the people on the right are highlighting the riots and stuff like "silence is violence" in a bid to claim these protests are "without substance". It's also again you ignoring that your assertions are demonstrably false. If you say the protests have no substance and I reply by pointing out that the protest has motivated substantive measures at no point is what your wife thinks relevant. Just like asking about 'silence is violence" after claiming something is new while at the same acknowledging it isn't, is relevant.

I have a basic problem. My problem is that I hate when people dodge questions, so I tend to answer every point a person makes individually, this is often used by people as a way to never ever take responsibility for what they say no matter how asinine. They just change the subject and I let their stupidity stand. You have done this now to many times.

Aware that entitled white kids are looting and burning under the guise of BLM. Got it.

Sure I get it. You made it absolutely clear that as long as you can claim that that's what it's about you can pretend that there is no substance. As I said dishonesty will allow you to do that.

I see what I see. I dont buy the fake outrage. These same people go home and feel better about themselves while not accomplishing anything. Silence is violence. LOL

You see what you want to see. And that's perfectly fine with me. If you can't understand that somebody could be outraged by this event or by what's happened to black people in the US since it's inception there is nothing I or anybody else can say to convince you. Silence might not be violence, but silence will for sure allow violence to continue, by all means, stick your head in the sand and pretend that every time something happens that causes protests like this it's "new" and "without substance" or "fueled by fake outrage".

OK

So what action items will you be embracing to change this? Do tell. You cannot force someone not to be racist. I am Jew and I cannot force you to see how stupid your views on Israel are. So stick your own head in the sand. Your little digs are laughable.

did you call him an anti semite & holocaust denier yet, per your M.O.?

He tried, more than once lol.

no doubt he did.

#pathetic #cowardly #can'tdebateworthadamn

I wouldn't go that far. The fact of the matter is that it's about par for the course of most people on this board, left or right. Setting up strawman arguments is something we all do sometimes either on purpose or inadvertently. In this case, it was on purpose of course but it is a debating tactic, not a very good one but still. I would and I have called Azog dishonest, that's about as far as I'd go.

Setting up straw men? So a black man resists arrest throws punches at the police, ends up getting shot, dies, then this gives the right to liberal/anarchists to riot and burn cities? Moderates are liberals too ashamed to admit they are liberals...just as stupid though.

Yes, that's a strawman because there are as far as I know exactly zero liberals that I know that have said anybody has the right to riot and burn cities. Feel free to give me an example of it but we both know you won't. That is in fact a strawman. See how that works?

There were some minority groups and even business owners
that would rather support the movement than protest the arson and looting:

âIt Was Something Bigger At Stake:â Lake Street Small Business Owners React To Destruction Of Their Shops During Protests Against Murder Of George Floyd

On stretches of the commercial throughway Lake Street in Minneapolis small businesses that were already struggling financially due to COVID-19 are now faced with the prospect of rebuilding from ashes.

www.forbes.com

Big Retailers Say They Don't Mind the Looting. It's Different for Small Businesses.

Small business owners who support #BlackLivesMatter have mixed feelings about the damage the riots may have to their livelihoods.

www.businessoffashion.com

Damaged Asian businesses show solidarity with Black Lives Matter protesters

“EVERYTHING IN MY STORE WILL BE REPLACEABLE,” one shop owner wrote, “while lives are being senselessly lost, on a way too regular basis, is the way bigger issue.”

www.nbcnews.com

Similar to L.A. and the Rodney King riots, the police at similar sites
were ordered to stand down, and not risk lives to protect property.

This is indirectly sending the message that the arson, riots and looting are valid forms of protest.

NOTE: What I would do is order blockades.
And anyone wishing to participate in protests sign agreements to comply
with all laws and authority, not commit crimes or take any action to invoke arrest, or they are required to leave.
And publicly announce on the news, and through every party precinct, police station, and public school
and all media outreach, that anyone caught in violation will
be part of the group held responsible for paying back ALL COSTS of damage and repair.

If it takes ALL residents of each district SIGNING this agreement in advance to be responsible for costs of crime or damage in the process of protesting, then that would put responsibility on residents and taxpayers to decide if they want protests in their districts.

If protesters agree to the costs of security and police, then they can get permits.

But if it costs too much, and nobody accepts responsibility,
then that isn't FREE SPEECH because the costs exceed the liberty exercised.

You have free speech, but not the right to impose costs on other people unless they consent to sponsor your protests.

Hm, I'm not convinced, I actually doubt that there is a legal way to hold individuals in a group liable for stuff other people in the group do. It goes against the principle of mens rea. In order for something to be an offense, intent has to be established.

As to your example, I disagree that finding the cause for which someone protests as more important than the damages it creates as condoning looting or violence.

I can give countless examples of protests that actually ended up being a benefit to society. At the same time, I can not condone violence during those protests. In fact, accepting the right to protest and not condoning violence during those protests is a position that most people hold I think.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The Democrat Party has racist roots. They supported slavery, they created Jim Crow laws, they ran the KKK.....thier statues are being torn down all over the South, so why not tear apart the primary cause of racism in America?

as always,this is all you have to offer in your juvenile thread titles .

YOU should be dissolved for always evading pesky facts that the republicans are as evil and corrupt as the democrats are
Don’t you EVER get tired of everybody here laughing at your stupidity you display here everyday with your bias and closed mind on the republicans?