the destruction of herman cain, from an election far far away.

[Correll]

The issue is not that the smear campaign worked.

The issue is that the smear campaign was launched.


THe people who launched and supported it are in the wrong, by modern American standards.

As you are supporting is after the fact, you are in the wrong.

Are you talking about Cain, or John Edwards?

Standards are by definition STANDARD.

That you feel the need to ask who before you make a judgement, shows you are a lib.

So it was wrong to smear Bill Clinton over unproven sex scandals.

We misunderstood the rules, at that time. We have paid the price and learned our lesson.


SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


That the media, that helped enforce those rules on republicans, then turned around and DID THE SAME THING?

They don't have the excuse of ignorance. They knowingly and purposefully broke the rules.


And they paid no price.


Yet...

So you let others dictate your conscience to you? Interesting.

IF we choose to flaunt the rules of society, sometimes there is a price to be paid.

The republicans paid it.

THe media has not.

WTF?!

 

[washamericom]

The issue is not that the smear campaign worked.

The issue is that the smear campaign was launched.


THe people who launched and supported it are in the wrong, by modern American standards.

As you are supporting is after the fact, you are in the wrong.

Are you talking about Cain, or John Edwards?

Standards are by definition STANDARD.

That you feel the need to ask who before you make a judgement, shows you are a lib.

So it was wrong to smear Bill Clinton over unproven sex scandals.

unproven. that sounds like "Man-caused disaster"…"leading from behind"…"workplace violence"

Go ahead and show the proof then.

well he admitted the big one, but only after getting caught.
but let me guess, you are still blaming 22 year old monica lewnsky. and your guy was wrongly accused.

but they had dna.

 

[Correll]

1. Credible.

2. Cain was the leader is the polls in a crowed field, until he was dogpiled.

3. HE did. You are a race baiting asshole.

1) Uh, no, when you say you saw someone's dick and describe it wrong, you have no crediblity.

2) Cain was never leading in the polls. And he was crashing and burning before we found out he was groping the White women.

3) Trump refuses to denounce Duke.

Donald Trump's absurd claim that he knows nothing about former KKK leader David Duke

1. When you believe BIll Clinton in a sexual harassment case, you have no credibility. Jones was credible.

2. YOur own graph shows Cain was leading in the polls for two good months. You are so biased that you can't even objectively read a graph.

3. Yes, he did. He did before that incident. HE did after that incident. The reporters are fucking assholes for even asking the question, and you are a dupe of Duke's by supporting the idea that he is significant.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you talking about Cain, or John Edwards?

Standards are by definition STANDARD.

That you feel the need to ask who before you make a judgement, shows you are a lib.

So it was wrong to smear Bill Clinton over unproven sex scandals.

unproven. that sounds like "Man-caused disaster"…"leading from behind"…"workplace violence"

Go ahead and show the proof then.

well he admitted the big one, but only after getting caught.
but let me guess, you are still blaming 22 year old monica lewnsky. and your guy was wrongly accused.

but they had dna.

I referred to the unproven one, not the proven one. Pay attention.

 

[rightwinger]

At the time of his destruction, Cain was essentially played out anyway

He had gotten as much mileage out of 9-9-9 as he was going to get

That is a matter of opinion.

IMO, he was just taking off and the media nipped a potential great in the bud.

Coming from an avid Trump supporter, that says a lot about Cains chances

The systemic advantages that the Dems have built into the game, we have discussed repeatedly and at length.

Democracy as America has known it is dying, we both know that.

The "systematic advantages" are merely the Democrats getting more votes

Which Republicans try to negate through gerrymandering, voter suppression and excessive weight given to red states

 

[rightwinger]

Nope, that was done by Ginger White. I have no idea what her political leanings are.

The media should have vilified Ginger White for talking openly about sex just like they did with Monica.


That is what is considered "Right" in our culture.

As historically documented.

You should be ashamed.

As if you decide what is considered, "right."

<smh>

Don't play stupid.

The culture as a whole sets it's rules.

And the rules were pounded into our republican heads quite vigorously.

SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


The media did "wrong" by making a big issue of a report of sex.

They deserve to be punished.

Sex sells

The media reports the biggest story. A report of Cains pathetic advances on women will get more viewers than an economic study of 9-9-9

Your pretense that the main stream media is not an arm of the democratic party is pathetic nonsense.

I hope you are not so deluded as to actually believe that.

Arm of the Democratic Party?
Hardly

Republicans like Trump would not get away with the crap they do if it were

 

[washamericom]

Standards are by definition STANDARD.

That you feel the need to ask who before you make a judgement, shows you are a lib.

So it was wrong to smear Bill Clinton over unproven sex scandals.

unproven. that sounds like "Man-caused disaster"…"leading from behind"…"workplace violence"

Go ahead and show the proof then.

well he admitted the big one, but only after getting caught.
but let me guess, you are still blaming 22 year old monica lewnsky. and your guy was wrongly accused.

but they had dna.

I referred to the unproven one, not the proven one. Pay attention.

i just did...

 

[Correll]

At the time of his destruction, Cain was essentially played out anyway

He had gotten as much mileage out of 9-9-9 as he was going to get

That is a matter of opinion.

IMO, he was just taking off and the media nipped a potential great in the bud.

Coming from an avid Trump supporter, that says a lot about Cains chances

The systemic advantages that the Dems have built into the game, we have discussed repeatedly and at length.

Democracy as America has known it is dying, we both know that.

The "systematic advantages" are merely the Democrats getting more votes

Which Republicans try to negate through gerrymandering, voter suppression and excessive weight given to red states

By importing Third WOrld voters and race baiting minorities into panicked block voting, yes.

(NOt to mention using the mainstream media and hollywood as a propaganda outlet.)


You already made a thread about how those plans would lead to the end of Multi-party democracy in America. Do you really want to derail this thread at this point in time?


Seems like the next time to revisit your point(s) on that, is after this election, when we have more information on the demographic effects.

 

[Correll]

The media should have vilified Ginger White for talking openly about sex just like they did with Monica.


That is what is considered "Right" in our culture.

As historically documented.

You should be ashamed.

As if you decide what is considered, "right."

<smh>

Don't play stupid.

The culture as a whole sets it's rules.

And the rules were pounded into our republican heads quite vigorously.

SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


The media did "wrong" by making a big issue of a report of sex.

They deserve to be punished.

Sex sells

The media reports the biggest story. A report of Cains pathetic advances on women will get more viewers than an economic study of 9-9-9

Your pretense that the main stream media is not an arm of the democratic party is pathetic nonsense.

I hope you are not so deluded as to actually believe that.

Arm of the Democratic Party?
Hardly

Republicans like Trump would not get away with the crap they do if it were

What do you imagine that Trump is getting away with?

And just to make sure we are on the same page, since you seem to be communicating from an alternate universe, we are talking about a Donald Trump who is running for President, right?

 

[JoeB131]

3. Whites have been and still are, by a good margin the majority of this country and men are far more likely to run for office than women. To that that is a strike against republicans just shows that you are bad at math.

Okay, but the Democrats elected a black man and are about to elect a woman. So it seems they have this down.

But you keep nominating white men.

 

[washamericom]

At the time of his destruction, Cain was essentially played out anyway

He had gotten as much mileage out of 9-9-9 as he was going to get

That is a matter of opinion.

IMO, he was just taking off and the media nipped a potential great in the bud.

Coming from an avid Trump supporter, that says a lot about Cains chances

The systemic advantages that the Dems have built into the game, we have discussed repeatedly and at length.

Democracy as America has known it is dying, we both know that.

The "systematic advantages" are merely the Democrats getting more votes

Which Republicans try to negate through gerrymandering, voter suppression and excessive weight given to red states

right, republicans....

Lizza wrote that the gerrymandering effort “may have been the most important event in Obama’s early political life” because it gave him the resources, both financial and political, to run for the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Obama’s Gerrymander

Corrigan remembers two things about the district that he and Obama drew. First, it retained Obama’s Hyde Park base — he had managed to beat Rush in Hyde Park — then swooped upward along the lakefront and toward downtown. By the end of the final redistricting process, his new district bore little resemblance to his old one. Rather than jutting far to the west, like a long thin dagger, into a swath of poor black neighborhoods of bungalow homes, Obama’s map now shot north, encompassing about half of the Loop, whose southern portion was beginning to be transformed by developers like Tony Rezko and stretched far up Michigan Avenue and into the Gold Coast, covering much of the city’s economic heart, its main retail thoroughfares, and its finest museums, parks, skyscrapers, and lakefront apartment buildings. African-Americans still were a majority, and the map contained some of the poorest sections of Chicago, but Obama’s new district was wealthier, whiter, more Jewish, less blue-collar, and better educated. It also included one of the highest concentrations of Republicans in Chicago.“It was a radical change,” Corrigan said.

 

[Correll]

3. Whites have been and still are, by a good margin the majority of this country and men are far more likely to run for office than women. To that that is a strike against republicans just shows that you are bad at math.

Okay, but the Democrats elected a black man and are about to elect a woman. So it seems they have this down.

But you keep nominating white men.

You present me, and/or the GOP with a woman or a black or anyone or anything, that has a set of policies or a resume or a campaign that fits what we want out of a candidate, and we will support that candidate.


We judge candidates based on what they have to offer.


Your dem inability to understand that can be seen in how you kept trying to make an issue of Romney's religion and how you failed at doing so.


WE have that down, ie judging candidates, (or people) on their actions and/or the content of their character, not their skin color or their gender.


But you keep checking off boxes.

 

[rightwinger]

As if you decide what is considered, "right."

<smh>

Don't play stupid.

The culture as a whole sets it's rules.

And the rules were pounded into our republican heads quite vigorously.

SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


The media did "wrong" by making a big issue of a report of sex.

They deserve to be punished.

Sex sells

The media reports the biggest story. A report of Cains pathetic advances on women will get more viewers than an economic study of 9-9-9

Your pretense that the main stream media is not an arm of the democratic party is pathetic nonsense.

I hope you are not so deluded as to actually believe that.

Arm of the Democratic Party?
Hardly

Republicans like Trump would not get away with the crap they do if it were

What do you imagine that Trump is getting away with?

And just to make sure we are on the same page, since you seem to be communicating from an alternate universe, we are talking about a Donald Trump who is running for President, right?

Trump has gotten away with more transgressions than any candidate in history

Gary Hart was toast merely for being photographed with Donna Rice on his lap


Trump mocks POWs, Mocks the handicapped, is derisive towards women, openly brags about grabbing pussy, brags about not paying taxes....

Yet still moves on

 

[rightwinger]

At the time of his destruction, Cain was essentially played out anyway

He had gotten as much mileage out of 9-9-9 as he was going to get

That is a matter of opinion.

IMO, he was just taking off and the media nipped a potential great in the bud.

Coming from an avid Trump supporter, that says a lot about Cains chances

The systemic advantages that the Dems have built into the game, we have discussed repeatedly and at length.

Democracy as America has known it is dying, we both know that.

The "systematic advantages" are merely the Democrats getting more votes

Which Republicans try to negate through gerrymandering, voter suppression and excessive weight given to red states

right, republicans....

Lizza wrote that the gerrymandering effort “may have been the most important event in Obama’s early political life” because it gave him the resources, both financial and political, to run for the U.S. Senate in 2004.

Obama’s Gerrymander

Corrigan remembers two things about the district that he and Obama drew. First, it retained Obama’s Hyde Park base — he had managed to beat Rush in Hyde Park — then swooped upward along the lakefront and toward downtown. By the end of the final redistricting process, his new district bore little resemblance to his old one. Rather than jutting far to the west, like a long thin dagger, into a swath of poor black neighborhoods of bungalow homes, Obama’s map now shot north, encompassing about half of the Loop, whose southern portion was beginning to be transformed by developers like Tony Rezko and stretched far up Michigan Avenue and into the Gold Coast, covering much of the city’s economic heart, its main retail thoroughfares, and its finest museums, parks, skyscrapers, and lakefront apartment buildings. African-Americans still were a majority, and the map contained some of the poorest sections of Chicago, but Obama’s new district was wealthier, whiter, more Jewish, less blue-collar, and better educated. It also included one of the highest concentrations of Republicans in Chicago.“It was a radical change,” Corrigan said.

The US Senate cannot be gerrymandered

 

[Faun]

No, it was the affair which prompted him to bail. There were other charges of sexual misconduct prior to that which did not cause him to drop out. It was the bombshell he had been unfaithful to his wife for 13 years which did that.

Are you not listening?


SEX DOESN'T MATTER!!!


The vicious smear campaign is what drove him from the election. Done by you and yours.

Of course I'm listening. That's why I'm hearing a moron repeat the same failed strawman over and over again.

Again.....

It wasn't my choice for Herman Cain to drop out of the race over allegations he had a 13 year long affair. I can't make that any more clear to you than I already have. It's not my problem you're ineducable.

The issue is not that the smear campaign worked.

The issue is that the smear campaign was launched.


THe people who launched and supported it are in the wrong, by modern American standards.

As you are supporting is after the fact, you are in the wrong.

The "smear campaign" was Ginger White stepping forward to claim she and Cain had an affair.

If she had made that claim about a dem, it would have been a blip and that would have been the end of it.

As it was about a Republican the media made it their top story for weeks.

Gennifer Flowers proves you're insane.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=gennifer flowers 1992&sm=3

 

[Faun]

Liberals resorted to "personal destruction" because Ginger White stepped forward to claim a long-term affair with Cain??

Of that's the case, then doesn't that mean conservatives resorted to the politics of "personal destruction" when Gennifer Flowers stepped forward in 1992 with a similar charge against Bill Clinton?

You don't think these things through, do ya, conservative?

Republicans paid the price for thinking that sexual harassment mattered.


But you libs got a pass. That is wrong.


You need to pay a price for your small minded anti-sex-ness.

If you think that's wrong, then don't punish your candidates who get caught cheating on their spouses.

There, problem solved.

I didn't.


The media, and the foolish republicans who give them ANY credibility did.


You, with your support of their actions, share the blame.

Blame for what? Cain stepping down? That was his choice.

Blame for their actions.

Much like the repubicans got slammed for their actions. Before they were taught that sex doesn't matter.


THe media still has that slam coming.

Your continued whining is noted and dismissed. Herman Cain is still responsible for his actions.

 

[Correll]

Don't play stupid.

The culture as a whole sets it's rules.

And the rules were pounded into our republican heads quite vigorously.

SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


The media did "wrong" by making a big issue of a report of sex.

They deserve to be punished.

Sex sells

The media reports the biggest story. A report of Cains pathetic advances on women will get more viewers than an economic study of 9-9-9

Your pretense that the main stream media is not an arm of the democratic party is pathetic nonsense.

I hope you are not so deluded as to actually believe that.

Arm of the Democratic Party?
Hardly

Republicans like Trump would not get away with the crap they do if it were

What do you imagine that Trump is getting away with?

And just to make sure we are on the same page, since you seem to be communicating from an alternate universe, we are talking about a Donald Trump who is running for President, right?

Trump has gotten away with more transgressions than any candidate in history

Gary Hart was toast merely for being photographed with Donna Rice on his lap


Trump mocks POWs, Mocks the handicapped, is derisive towards women, openly brags about grabbing pussy, brags about not paying taxes....

Yet still moves on

Those are lies.


Trump mocked a grumpy old man who had insulted his supporters, trump mocked a vile reporter who deserved it, trump has mocked specific women who have attacked him, Trump has bragged about women being attracted to his wealth and fame (see definition of word "let"), and we all pay as little taxes as we can.

 

[Faun]

No, it was the affair which prompted him to bail. There were other charges of sexual misconduct prior to that which did not cause him to drop out. It was the bombshell he had been unfaithful to his wife for 13 years which did that.

Are you not listening?


SEX DOESN'T MATTER!!!


The vicious smear campaign is what drove him from the election. Done by you and yours.

Nope, that was done by Ginger White. I have no idea what her political leanings are.

The media should have vilified Ginger White for talking openly about sex just like they did with Monica.


That is what is considered "Right" in our culture.

As historically documented.

You should be ashamed.

As if you decide what is considered, "right."

<smh>

Don't play stupid.

The culture as a whole sets it's rules.

And the rules were pounded into our republican heads quite vigorously.

SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


The media did "wrong" by making a big issue of a report of sex.

They deserve to be punished.

Well obviously sex can matter otherwise Cain wouldn't have dropped from the race.

 

[Correll]

Are you not listening?


SEX DOESN'T MATTER!!!


The vicious smear campaign is what drove him from the election. Done by you and yours.

Of course I'm listening. That's why I'm hearing a moron repeat the same failed strawman over and over again.

Again.....

It wasn't my choice for Herman Cain to drop out of the race over allegations he had a 13 year long affair. I can't make that any more clear to you than I already have. It's not my problem you're ineducable.

The issue is not that the smear campaign worked.

The issue is that the smear campaign was launched.


THe people who launched and supported it are in the wrong, by modern American standards.

As you are supporting is after the fact, you are in the wrong.

The "smear campaign" was Ginger White stepping forward to claim she and Cain had an affair.

If she had made that claim about a dem, it would have been a blip and that would have been the end of it.

As it was about a Republican the media made it their top story for weeks.

Gennifer Flowers proves you're insane.

https://m.youtube.com/results?q=gennifer flowers 1992&sm=3

4,000 results for the dem.

34,000 for the republican.

donald trump grabbing - YouTube


And only a fool would doubt that the tone of the pieces were very different depending on party affiliation.

 

[Faun]

Of course I'm listening. That's why I'm hearing a moron repeat the same failed strawman over and over again.

Again.....

It wasn't my choice for Herman Cain to drop out of the race over allegations he had a 13 year long affair. I can't make that any more clear to you than I already have. It's not my problem you're ineducable.

The issue is not that the smear campaign worked.

The issue is that the smear campaign was launched.


THe people who launched and supported it are in the wrong, by modern American standards.

As you are supporting is after the fact, you are in the wrong.

Are you talking about Cain, or John Edwards?

Standards are by definition STANDARD.

That you feel the need to ask who before you make a judgement, shows you are a lib.

So it was wrong to smear Bill Clinton over unproven sex scandals.

We misunderstood the rules, at that time. We have paid the price and learned our lesson.


SEX DOESN'T MATTER.


That the media, that helped enforce those rules on republicans, then turned around and DID THE SAME THING?

They don't have the excuse of ignorance. They knowingly and purposefully broke the rules.


And they paid no price.


Yet...

If sex doesn't matter, why is much of the public lashing out at Crazy Donald for trying to have sex with married women and exploiting his star power to grab their pussies?