The Divine Hand of the Europeans

[BecauseIKnow]

Former Mossad head advocates Saudi peace plan

Jroc is probably one of those people who thinks a 1967 border plan would push Israel into the corner. But he doesn't realize it's a greater risk of no peace plan is observed and no initiative is presented to the Palestinians. It would be better for a two state solution, or some what like it.

 

[Jroc]

Only disputed by the Israelis. They're occupied lands according to the world. Put your fantasies and horrible analogies aside and actually start considering a real peace plan along the 1967 borders. You're clearly trying to avoid any chance for a plan. You've said several things before this and now you're plan is to go on a conquest for more land under the umbrella of a peace plan.

There is no 67' boarder, never has been, those were cease fire lines that no longer exist because of your Arab brothers. You can wish for the destruction of Israel all you want it isn't going o happen

Bush preached it, Obama did, even Israeli leaders said it, the whole world agrees on a peace plan based on the 1967 borders. Including the Palestinians. Now, if you're opposed to the legitimate plan that's been the central point for decades now you're clearly not interested in peace.

I’m interested in the survival of Israel the 67' line isn't conducive to that

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2hZ6SlSqq0]outstanding Explanation: Why Israel can't withdraw to its pre '67 borders line - Please Share - YouTube[/ame]


At least this guy is honest...

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[BecauseIKnow]

That's your opinion and it's only the current Israeli government opinion, which is the right wing Likud Party. You should look at the vast opinions among officials around the world but also those opinions of Israelis themselves. You can't just say you won't go back to it. Then you're justifying your occupation and you that would mean you've been trying to stuff the West Bank with settlers over the past 10 years in order to avoid a 1967 peace plan.

 

[Jroc]

That's your opinion and it's only the current Israeli government opinion, which is the right wing Likud Party. You should look at the vast opinions among officials around the world but also those opinions of Israelis themselves. You can't just say you won't go back to it. Then you're justifying your occupation and you that would mean you've been trying to stuff the West Bank with settlers over the past 10 years in order to avoid a 1967 peace plan.

There is no 67' peace plan and spare me the J street George Soros poll ok?

 

[Jroc]

That's your opinion and it's only the current Israeli government opinion, which is the right wing Likud Party. You should look at the vast opinions among officials around the world but also those opinions of Israelis themselves. You can't just say you won't go back to it. Then you're justifying your occupation and you that would mean you've been trying to stuff the West Bank with settlers over the past 10 years in order to avoid a 1967 peace plan.

BIK's "Peace Plan"...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvlRfnOQpus]Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Presidential Candidate Will make Jerusalem Caliphate capital - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Lipush]

Any withdrawing to the '67 lines should be made only in Referendum. We have seen what happens when things are made against the will of the masses. We don't want demestic wars inside our nation

 

[Jroc]

Any withdrawing to the '67 lines should be made only in Referendum. We have seen what happens when things are made against the will of the masses. We don't want demestic wars inside our nation

"67 lines shouldn't be discussed period. If those are put forth at the beginning of any discussion, that's where the discussion ends.

 

[BecauseIKnow]

No, it has to be discussed.

 

[toastman]

No, it has to be discussed.

When were those borders recognized by Arabs ?????

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Every Arab proposal although Arabs aren't the issue. The world and US presidents even israeli officials all saw it as the starting point. Hamas is also looking for a 1967 state. The only party that isn't is the Likud Party.

 

[irosie91]

No, it has to be discussed.

When were those borders recognized by Arabs ?????

some time after the 1967 war in fact almost immediately---
the UMMAH clamoured for a DO-OVER

 

[toastman]

Every Arab proposal although Arabs aren't the issue. The world and US presidents even israeli officials all saw it as the starting point. Hamas is also looking for a 1967 state. The only party that isn't is the Likud Party.

The correct answer to my question is NEVER WAS.

UNless you can prove otherwise ?

 

[BecauseIKnow]

I already proved several times in this thread. Correct answer is you're a loon.

 

[toastman]

I already proved several times in this thread. Correct answer is you're a loon.

When were the '67 ever recognized by the Arabs ??? Link ???

YOu can insult me all you want, but it doesnt change the fact

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Arabs have nothing to do with it. The current world position is a two state solution based on 1967 borders. Hamas and the PA stand on this. The only ones opposing this are the Israelis and the US administration semi opposes it.

 

[toastman]

Are you saying that the Arab nations never recognized the '67 borders, which they are trying to push ?

Stop deflecting

 

[BecauseIKnow]

Arab nations have nothing do with Israel's occupation. Nevertheless, the whole world has been eyeing the 1967 border peace plan. I don't need to go over it with you. You've been living under a rock if you don't know that. Anyone that has knowledge on this conflict knows that. Now you can continue deflecting and making obvious excuses all you want. But it's more than known.

 

[toastman]

You are the one deflecting. You can't answer a simple question because the truth hurts you.

Such a simple question and you still cant answer it

 

[BecauseIKnow]

You're talking to yourself.

 

[toastman]

NO I'm talking to you, but you don't want to hear what I have to say.

Sad little boy !

Can't even answer a simple question