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One more point of order that must be addressed since it keeps being brought back into these types of discussion
A license is a privilege granted by the state.
Tradesman license, marriage license, motor vehicle license are all privilege's granted by the state
A right does not need a license to obtain said right.
Firearm ownership is a right the second amendment dictates that we Americans have that right and directs the federal government to insure that right is protected. Now we have allowed that right to become fuzzy and have allowed the federal and state governments to keep that right from us. I say no more compromises. You gun grabbers have made your last gun control law.
Should private citizens have the right to own and bear any arm available to the military? Should private citizens own RPGs, armored tanks, nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons? Is the right to bear arms unlimited and universal?
One more point of order that must be addressed since it keeps being brought back into these types of discussion
A license is a privilege granted by the state.
Tradesman license, marriage license, motor vehicle license are all privilege's granted by the state
A right does not need a license to obtain said right.
Firearm ownership is a right the second amendment dictates that we Americans have that right and directs the federal government to insure that right is protected. Now we have allowed that right to become fuzzy and have allowed the federal and state governments to keep that right from us. I say no more compromises. You gun grabbers have made your last gun control law.
Should private citizens have the right to own and bear any arm available to the military? Should private citizens own RPGs, armored tanks, nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons? Is the right to bear arms unlimited and universal?
It would have to be unlimited, or else your militia isn't well-armed. Nukes would be a must.
"well regulated" or the guys whose trailer is in the next lot?Miller vs. U.S. 1938 and Lewis vs U.S. 1980 affirming what Miller ruled upon
Opinion of the Court
In order for a firearm too be protected by the second amendment it must have some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, in common use of the time, and supplied by the citizen.
United States v. Miller
What happens when those weapons fall into the hands of Al Qeada? The next Ted Kazinski? The street gangs?It would have to be unlimited, or else your militia isn't well-armed. Nukes would be a must.
Absolutely.
I think the Pentagon should be pubic-access. Like a library. You sign up for a card, borrow a drone or a tank or a nuke. Why not? We paid for all that shit, right?
There is a greater statistical chance that someone in my household gets shot from an irresponsibly stored gun than I am ever suddenly called upon to be Dirty Harry. I'm sorry, but I have to face reality, not a screenplay. I have to be a responsible adult, not some moron with a Rambo complex. I have to act intelligently and responsibly, not like a wannabe John Wayne.Are you mocking my responsibility? Do you think I should act less responsibly?
And why should I listen to you?
Just think, if three criminals showed up at your door, you are responsible enough not to shoot any of them in the groin.
Home invasion victim shoots suspect after assault | WBNG-TV: News, Sports and Weather Binghamton, New York | LocalMuchanic knocked on Braman's door wearing a ski mask. The victim opened his door carrying a loaded 357 Smith and Wesson revolver. Muchanic told Braman he was having car problems and needed to use his phone, according to state police.
Trooper Mark Mulvey said Braman tried to close the door when he realized Muchanic was wearing a ski mask. State police said Muchanic then forced his way into the home and began assaulting Braman and knocking him to the ground.
Braman fired three shots at Muchanic and hit him once in the groin.
Troopers say Muchanic fled the home, falling to the ground. The two other men, Brewer and Hess left Muchanic at the scene.
i know that and you know that, but there are folks here who mocked my responsibility as a gun owner and want to open every military arsenal to the general public.What happens when those weapons fall into the hands of Al Qeada? The next Ted Kazinski? The street gangs?Absolutely.
I think the Pentagon should be pubic-access. Like a library. You sign up for a card, borrow a drone or a tank or a nuke. Why not? We paid for all that shit, right?
It was satirical. I'm taking the idea to where it wants to go.
BigReb, you gonna let him get away with this?
He says the "gun grabbers" have been majorly buttwhipped, you said "we have allowed that right to become fuzzy and have allowed the federal and state governments to keep that right from us. I say no more compromises. You gun grabbers have made your last gun control law."
So which is it? Have we allowed "gun grabber" laws, or have those attempts been buttwhipped? I think you and he should fight this out.
Doesn't matter to me, I just want the entertainment.
Squirm dance! Squirm dance!
He hasn't contradicted what I said. Gun owners are taking back our rights, that once were misinterpreted
Ah so he isn't contradicting you; you're contradicting yourself.
Thanks for clearing that up. I really wanted a firefight though. Shoot. Uh, I mean, shit.
There is a greater statistical chance that someone in my household gets shot from an irresponsibly stored gun than I am ever suddenly called upon to be Dirty Harry. I'm sorry, but I have to face reality, not a screenplay. I have to be a responsible adult, not some moron with a Rambo complex. I have to act intelligently and responsibly, not like a wannabe John Wayne.Just think, if three criminals showed up at your door, you are responsible enough not to shoot any of them in the groin.
Home invasion victim shoots suspect after assault | WBNG-TV: News, Sports and Weather Binghamton, New York | Local
That is an lie, you should stop being afraid of lies.
No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.What kind. Of thinking includes: I'm off to the movies! Better take my gun!personally i am glad he knows his limits
he says right out that a bad guy would simply disarm him anyhow
The kind that says cops always carry their guns.
What kind. Of thinking includes: I'm off to the movies! Better take my gun!
The kind that says cops always carry their guns.
No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.
I'll take my chances by unloading and locking my gun in a safe. That's what real responsible adults do.There is a greater statistical chance that someone in my household gets shot from an irresponsibly stored gun than I am ever suddenly called upon to be Dirty Harry. I'm sorry, but I have to face reality, not a screenplay. I have to be a responsible adult, not some moron with a Rambo complex. I have to act intelligently and responsibly, not like a wannabe John Wayne.
That is an lie, you should stop being afraid of lies.
You have a better chance of winning the lottery twice than getting shot once with your own firearm.
I'll take my chances by unloading and locking my gun in a safe. That's what real responsible adults do.That is an lie, you should stop being afraid of lies.
You have a better chance of winning the lottery twice than getting shot once with your own firearm.
No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.What kind. Of thinking includes: I'm off to the movies! Better take my gun!
The kind that says cops always carry their guns.
It seems only fair to tell you that I do not have a clue as to what you are talking about in Los Angeles.
But I can tell you this. I lived in New Orleans for 10 years, and there are nieghborhoods where even the cops don't enter at night unless they are in teams of four. So, unless you are Sylvester Stallone, I feel secure in telling you that, even with my firearms training through the Pima County Sheriff's department, I would not enter certain nieghborhoods in New Orleans without a bazookaza, but I bow down to you, the ultimate terminator, who is prepared to take on an entire group of gangsters who are armed to the teeth, have nothing to lose, and hate your guts, just for being in their neighborhood.
Of course, if you have George Zimmerman with you, that would be a different story altogether.....
Like I said ... You don't know who or what you are talking about.
I don't have any business to do in the neighborhoods you are a talking about ... I don't need any drugs, and the places I frequent are little easier to get to and more enjoyable.
I don't need to be Sylvester Stallone to get from the JW Marriot to Mike Anderson's.
I carry a firearm for the chances the criminals don't stay in their neighborhood.
It is hilarious ... Gun grabbing freaks call us nuts ... And then think we are going to try an armed assault on the 9th Ward.
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No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.The kind that says cops always carry their guns.
Lets get this argument on the parameters that matter, the guy that did this was a cop. Every single complain you are making is about people who are not cops, but we are still talking about a cop. Until you get it through your head that we are talking about a cop we aren't discussing anything. I am pointing out that we are talking about cops, and you keep pretending that the problem is people who want to defend themselves from criminals.
The kind that says cops always carry their guns.
No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.
In other words the kind of vicarious fantasy addiction that drives them to think they actually ARE the character on the movie screen. Like the way Mark Chapman thought he was John Lennon.
No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.
In other words the kind of vicarious fantasy addiction that drives them to think they actually ARE the character on the movie screen. Like the way Mark Chapman thought he was John Lennon.
He was a SWAT commander. In other words, he was trained to take down that guy on the screen.
This is an insane cop. He was a man before he became a cop, and I' m betting he was insane then too.No, the kind that thinks he can be Dirty Harry or any rogue vigilante and never mind the consequences. In other words, immature and irresponsible.The kind that says cops always carry their guns.
Lets get this argument on the parameters that matter, the guy that did this was a cop. Every single complain you are making is about people who are not cops, but we are still talking about a cop. Until you get it through your head that we are talking about a cop we aren't discussing anything. I am pointing out that we are talking about cops, and you keep pretending that the problem is people who want to defend themselves from criminals.
I'll take my chances by unloading and locking my gun in a safe. That's what real responsible adults do.You have a better chance of winning the lottery twice than getting shot once with your own firearm.
That's your choice, you do not get to make that choice for me.
isn't it what Adam Lanza's mother should have done?I'll take my chances by unloading and locking my gun in a safe. That's what real responsible adults do.You have a better chance of winning the lottery twice than getting shot once with your own firearm.
That's your choice, you do not get to make that choice for me.
