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An individuals right to refuse service toThe bakery was not being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. The bakery is not a religious institution.I do realize it you need to realize that its a two way street and that all beliefs are due the same protections.
And they are. These laws protect you too. Businesses cannot discriminate against you because of your religious beliefs. That is all there is to it. There is nothing "unfair" about these laws. If you go into business, be prepared to serve EVERYBODY.
Don't you understand? you are advocating discrimination against businesses because of their religious beliefs. anti-discrimination does not just apply to individuals, it applies to businesses and groups as well.
You don't really grok Individual liberty.
In Oregon, it is against the law for a business to refuse service based on race, sex, or sexual orientation. The bakery is a business. The people who run it, merely represent itThe bakery was not being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs. The bakery is not a religious institution.I do realize it you need to realize that its a two way street and that all beliefs are due the same protections.
And they are. These laws protect you too. Businesses cannot discriminate against you because of your religious beliefs. That is all there is to it. There is nothing "unfair" about these laws. If you go into business, be prepared to serve EVERYBODY.
Don't you understand? you are advocating discrimination against businesses because of their religious beliefs. anti-discrimination does not just apply to individuals, it applies to businesses and groups as well.
neither were the gay couple a religious institution, so what?
what should have happened is:
gay couple: we would like for you to bake us a wedding cake
baker: I do not want to do that because I do not believe in gay marriage, however, Tom the baker down the street is gay and he would be pleased to bake your cake
gay couple: thanks, we respect your beliefs and will go see Tom, have a nice day.
"Mitzvoteem" <snicker>Uhh, your new covenant, according to your own Jesus, did not supplant any of the 613 mitzvoteem. Try again.You are correct. Homosexual relations (something Statistheilhitler knows a lot about) are condemnded as abomination. Eating shellfish is condemned as abomination. Others things probably are too.The Bible does not condemn tattoos as an abomination. That's a fact
But tattoos are not condemned as abomination, even though they aer clearly prohibited.
But once Statistheilhitler made the claim he couldnt admit he was wrong as a matter of fact. He had to go on the attack and rationalize his answer with all sorts of excuses. Because he's a snowflake with a big easily bruised ego on the one hand and a lack of knowledge on the other.
Actually eating shellfish isn't an abomination, and never was for the Gentiles. They quote Mosaic ceremonial and dietary laws that were long done away with by the New Covenant. It's hilarious to hang them out in the wind with it
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We've added Hebrew to the list of things you dont know.
Mitzvoteem is the correct plural form of "Mitzvah". You can also use "Mitzvot"
You are one wierd fake Jew.
guno
What you CANNOT do is open a business and discriminate against against certain segments of society based upon your personal religious views. 
Perhaps the insanity of these cases are a Lawyers wet dream...........Find a place of business that believes a certain way............try to force them to sell you a product or service you know they will not do..............
Sue there asses off and make millions...................Sounds like a liberal lawyers wet dream.............
This is the path we chosen.................and let the court cases pile up...............
well weve seen that happen with handicap access putting some small businesses like mom and pop restaurants out and making lawyers rich
The issue is not about what you sell, but who you will or will not sell to.
BS........Custom cakes..........refusal to bake it could be offensive to a Nazi who we can't discriminate against.................right...........If they don't bake it.............it is refusal of service..............The issue is not about what you sell, but who you will or will not sell to.
The problem is the gays. They want to moosh it in everyone's face that they're a gay couple and you better respect them, mister.
Where are the HATE speech laws on this...............................
Do you not see the difference between making a cake for a person's wedding and hate speech?
Homosexuality is hate speech.
Do you not see the difference between making a cake for a person's wedding and hate speech?
Where are the HATE speech laws on this...............................
Do you not see the difference between making a cake for a person's wedding and hate speech?
Have we gone the way of Europe where if you say the wrong thing you go to jail........
I don't agree with the cake...............I'm sure you don't either...............but you cannot cherry pick the law to only the subject of anti discrimination laws which concern you and not that of others...........Equal justice under the law..........Nazi's who would want this are the scourge........I wouldn't bake it..................same as I wouldn't bake an ISIS cake........but under the anti discrimination BLANKET..............I would be in violation of the law.............
Is Christianity a race, or a behavior?
It is neither.
Is this confusing you?
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Oh really? Then Christians do not behave a certain way? lol
The concepts of inductive and deductive reasoning are kind of new to you...eh?
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You're deflecting because you've lost the argument. No, someone losing an argument to me is not new.
That was not a deflection. It was to the point. Because you do not understand that it was to the point is ... sort of a cry for help..
Let's go back to the beginning. You wish me to choose between Christianity being either a race or a behavior. I chose neither. Obviously you classify Christianity as a behavior and I do not classify Christianity as a behavior. Let's work on that first. I classify Christianity as a belief system. You should be familiar with the concept. I am sure you have beliefs of some sort. Care to share them with us?
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You are terminally stupid. This is the 20th time or so you've made the argument that they must obey the law. It is an invalid argument. The greatest moments in this country occurred when people stood up against a law they believed was unfair and unjust. The bakers are doing just that.Where are the HATE speech laws on this...............................
Do you not see the difference between making a cake for a person's wedding and hate speech?
Have we gone the way of Europe where if you say the wrong thing you go to jail........
I don't agree with the cake...............I'm sure you don't either...............but you cannot cherry pick the law to only the subject of anti discrimination laws which concern you and not that of others...........Equal justice under the law..........Nazi's who would want this are the scourge........I wouldn't bake it..................same as I wouldn't bake an ISIS cake........but under the anti discrimination BLANKET..............I would be in violation of the law.............
No, the point here is that these bakers opened a business, and they must operate their business in accordance with the laws in the state in which they opened the business. Refusal to make a cake because people who are requesting it are gay is against the law in that state.
Where are the HATE speech laws on this...............................
Do you not see the difference between making a cake for a person's wedding and hate speech?
Have we gone the way of Europe where if you say the wrong thing you go to jail........
I don't agree with the cake...............I'm sure you don't either...............but you cannot cherry pick the law to only the subject of anti discrimination laws which concern you and not that of others...........Equal justice under the law..........Nazi's who would want this are the scourge........I wouldn't bake it..................same as I wouldn't bake an ISIS cake........but under the anti discrimination BLANKET..............I would be in violation of the law.............
No, the point here is that these bakers opened a business, and they must operate their business in accordance with the laws in the state in which they opened the business. Refusal to make a cake because people who are requesting it are gay is against the law in that state.
You are terminally stupid. This is the 20th time or so you've made the argument that they must obey the law. It is an invalid argument. The greatest moments in this country occurred when people stood up against a law they believed was unfair and unjust. The bakers are doing just that.Where are the HATE speech laws on this...............................
Do you not see the difference between making a cake for a person's wedding and hate speech?
Have we gone the way of Europe where if you say the wrong thing you go to jail........
I don't agree with the cake...............I'm sure you don't either...............but you cannot cherry pick the law to only the subject of anti discrimination laws which concern you and not that of others...........Equal justice under the law..........Nazi's who would want this are the scourge........I wouldn't bake it..................same as I wouldn't bake an ISIS cake........but under the anti discrimination BLANKET..............I would be in violation of the law.............
No, the point here is that these bakers opened a business, and they must operate their business in accordance with the laws in the state in which they opened the business. Refusal to make a cake because people who are requesting it are gay is against the law in that state.
