The Economic Lockdown Catastrophe The worst jobs report in history shows why the economy must reopen.

[JoeB131]

/——-/ Ahhh, got White Guilt? BTW, the democRATs ran the country for most of the last 50 years.

Really? The last 50 years? Let's look at that.

Republican presidents since 1970. Nixon and Ford. 6 years. Reagan and Bush - 12 years. Bush Jr. 8 years and Trump. 4 years. Republican Presidents for 30 of the last 50 years.

They've also been the majority in the Supreme Court for the last 50 years.

For Congress. Held the house from 1994 to 2006 and 2010 to 2018. So that's 20 of the last 50 years. Senate- they've held that from 80 - 86, 94 to 00, 02 to 06 and 14 to 00. So that's 22 out of the last 50.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Democrats have never done a great job running the VA which is what your Universal Healthcare will be if it is ever created in this country.

It's Republicans who have spent the last 20 years slashing the VA's funding, while supporting perpetual war.

President Trump’s Budget Hurts Veterans Through Extreme Cuts to Crucial Programs

Even though the budget adequately funds the Department of Veterans Affairs’ (VA) programs, President Trump’s destructive cuts to other crucial programs – such as Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) – hurt the millions of veterans who rely on them to access health...

budget.house.gov

Also you can not stop the switching of power in a Republic like ours and sooner or later the opposition will gain control, so only a fool believe their political party will stay in power forever...

Quite the contrary, the Republicans are pretty much going to get sent into the political wilderness because they've alienated women and minorities, and there aren't enough angry old white men to sustain it. Heck, they can't even win elections without cheating. Get rid of the Electoral College, stop gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP is gone and we'll all be better off for it.

Man, what a bunch of bullshit you just wrote!

So winning the Electoral College is cheating according to you?

Well damn it man Barack Obama was a big ass Cheater!

2007 - 2011 Pelosi ran the House and since 2017 she has been in charge of the House and Harry Reid was Senate Majority leader from 2007 - 2015, so Republicans were running everything and Barack Obama was never President?

Individuals like you love to lie and forget your political party has been in power and power changes every few years but keep on dreaming about that Communistic One Party System while lying as usual!

Also last four Presidents were:

Clinton

Bush

Obama

Trump

So tell me in the last eleven years how many of those years was a Republican President?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

/——-/ Ahhh, got White Guilt? BTW, the democRATs ran the country for most of the last 50 years.

Really? The last 50 years? Let's look at that.

Republican presidents since 1970. Nixon and Ford. 6 years. Reagan and Bush - 12 years. Bush Jr. 8 years and Trump. 4 years. Republican Presidents for 30 of the last 50 years.

They've also been the majority in the Supreme Court for the last 50 years.

For Congress. Held the house from 1994 to 2006 and 2010 to 2018. So that's 20 of the last 50 years. Senate- they've held that from 80 - 86, 94 to 00, 02 to 06 and 14 to 00. So that's 22 out of the last 50.

So in the last Fifty years the Democrats held power more often in the House and Senate, and yet according to you the last twenty years the country was ran only by Republicans!

Can't slash funding and supporting war unless you were in power of the House, Senate and Oval Office, so you are a big fat liar like Donny Boy!

Democrats have never done a great job running the VA which is what your Universal Healthcare will be if it is ever created in this country.

It's Republicans who have spent the last 20 years slashing the VA's funding, while supporting perpetual war.

President Trump’s Budget Hurts Veterans Through Extreme Cuts to Crucial Programs

Even though the budget adequately funds the Department of Veterans Affairs’ (VA) programs, President Trump’s destructive cuts to other crucial programs – such as Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) – hurt the millions of veterans who rely on them to access health...

budget.house.gov

Also you can not stop the switching of power in a Republic like ours and sooner or later the opposition will gain control, so only a fool believe their political party will stay in power forever...

Quite the contrary, the Republicans are pretty much going to get sent into the political wilderness because they've alienated women and minorities, and there aren't enough angry old white men to sustain it. Heck, they can't even win elections without cheating. Get rid of the Electoral College, stop gerrymandering and voter suppression, the GOP is gone and we'll all be better off for it.

 

[candycorn]

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[Bruce_T_Laney]

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What is so funny Candykkkane?

It was Joe stating the last twenty years the GOP ran everything and kept wars going, so are you laughing because Obama was a cheater and war loving Freak according to Joe?

Also Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Why did they slash and kept wars going?

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——-/ Ahhh, got White Guilt? BTW, the democRATs ran the country for most of the last 50 years.

Really? The last 50 years? Let's look at that.

Republican presidents since 1970. Nixon and Ford. 6 years. Reagan and Bush - 12 years. Bush Jr. 8 years and Trump. 4 years. Republican Presidents for 30 of the last 50 years.

They've also been the majority in the Supreme Court for the last 50 years.

For Congress. Held the house from 1994 to 2006 and 2010 to 2018. So that's 20 of the last 50 years. Senate- they've held that from 80 - 86, 94 to 00, 02 to 06 and 14 to 00. So that's 22 out of the last 50.

/——/ Sorry, I forgot I had to spell everything out for you. By running the Gubmint, I’m talking about the House and Senate. Sure Republican presidents move their agenda and so do DemocRATs, but a DemocRAT Congress can easily block a Republican President and vice versa.

 

[candycorn]

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What is so funny Candykkkane?

It was Joe stating the last twenty years the GOP ran everything and kept wars going, so are you laughing because Obama was a cheater and war loving Freak according to Joe?

Also Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Why did they slash and kept wars going?

You attempting to make an argument.

Your blob had GOP house, GOP Senate and the Oval for 2 years. The result was $2T in over-spending.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

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What is so funny Candykkkane?

It was Joe stating the last twenty years the GOP ran everything and kept wars going, so are you laughing because Obama was a cheater and war loving Freak according to Joe?

Also Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Why did they slash and kept wars going?

You attempting to make an argument.

Your blob had GOP house, GOP Senate and the Oval for 2 years. The result was $2T in over-spending.

Two years... wow!

Obama had the House and Senate for Two years also and the only thing America got was that pathetic ACA aka Romneycare to remember that by!

Also it was Joe that said the GOP ran everything the last twenty years when he said they slashed everything and kept wars going, so when did Pelosi, Reid and Obama become Republicans?

Come on troll and you are the reason why Trump was elected and not me!

 

[candycorn]

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What is so funny Candykkkane?

It was Joe stating the last twenty years the GOP ran everything and kept wars going, so are you laughing because Obama was a cheater and war loving Freak according to Joe?

Also Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Why did they slash and kept wars going?

You attempting to make an argument.

Your blob had GOP house, GOP Senate and the Oval for 2 years. The result was $2T in over-spending.

Two years... wow!

Obama had the House and Senate for Two years also and the only thing America got was that pathetic ACA aka Romneycare to remember that by!

Also it was Joe that said the GOP ran everything the last twenty years when he said they slashed everything and kept wars going, so when did Pelosi, Reid and Obama become Republicans?

Come on troll and you are the reason why Trump was elected and not me!

Simply pointing out the blob's overspending. That you seem to want to deny it...well...that's your problem.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

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What is so funny Candykkkane?

It was Joe stating the last twenty years the GOP ran everything and kept wars going, so are you laughing because Obama was a cheater and war loving Freak according to Joe?

Also Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Why did they slash and kept wars going?

You attempting to make an argument.

Your blob had GOP house, GOP Senate and the Oval for 2 years. The result was $2T in over-spending.

Two years... wow!

Obama had the House and Senate for Two years also and the only thing America got was that pathetic ACA aka Romneycare to remember that by!

Also it was Joe that said the GOP ran everything the last twenty years when he said they slashed everything and kept wars going, so when did Pelosi, Reid and Obama become Republicans?

Come on troll and you are the reason why Trump was elected and not me!

Simply pointing out the blob's overspending. That you seem to want to deny it...well...that's your problem.

Show where I denied it?

Another lie by Candykkkorn making another false claim that I denied Trump wasted money!

So according to you the GOP ran everything the last twenty years seeing you agree with Joe comment about how the Republicans slashed everything and ran endless wars the last twenty years, so when did Obama, Pelosi and Reid become Republicans?

Funny how rejects like you forget who ran the country before Trump and never once did you complain about Obama spending on endless wars or Arab springs...

 

[candycorn]

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What is so funny Candykkkane?

It was Joe stating the last twenty years the GOP ran everything and kept wars going, so are you laughing because Obama was a cheater and war loving Freak according to Joe?

Also Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

Why did they slash and kept wars going?

You attempting to make an argument.

Your blob had GOP house, GOP Senate and the Oval for 2 years. The result was $2T in over-spending.

Two years... wow!

Obama had the House and Senate for Two years also and the only thing America got was that pathetic ACA aka Romneycare to remember that by!

Also it was Joe that said the GOP ran everything the last twenty years when he said they slashed everything and kept wars going, so when did Pelosi, Reid and Obama become Republicans?

Come on troll and you are the reason why Trump was elected and not me!

Simply pointing out the blob's overspending. That you seem to want to deny it...well...that's your problem.

Show where I denied it?

Another lie by Candykkkorn making another false claim that I denied Trump wasted money!

So according to you the GOP ran everything the last twenty years seeing you agree with Joe comment about how the Republicans slashed everything and ran endless wars the last twenty years, so when did Obama, Pelosi and Reid become Republicans?

Funny how rejects like you forget who ran the country before Trump and never once did you complain about Obama spending on endless wars or Arab springs...

Your blob wasting money is undeniable. The President signs off on spending. At least millions of Americans can get coverage through the ACA. The blob just gave tax breaks to millionaires.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Its a bad choice either way

but not opening up will be worse

Yeah. People might actually hold Trump accountable. That would be tragic for you guys.

The same people who believe Trump is not being held accountable enough are the same people that refuse to hold China and the UN/WHO accountable at all.

 

[Kondor3]

Here is the reality: This shutdown cannot continue or it will destroy this country:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-economic-lockdown-catastrophe-11588978716​

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Unemployment in April soared to 14.7%—the highest rate since the government started keeping records in 1948—while employers shed 20.5 million more jobs after losing 870,000 in March. The labor-market bleeding is even worse than those numbers suggest since 6.4 million workers left the workforce.​

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Labor participation had been trending upward the past two years as faster job growth drew millions of low-income Americans from the sidelines. But the participation rate has now fallen 3.2 percentage points to 60.2% since a recent peak in February, the lowest since 1973 before large numbers of women started working.​

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Much of the media continue to treat the economic destruction as a sideshow and present a false choice between saving lives and jobs. But this is the fastest jobs collapse in modern history. The Great Depression drove millions of Americans into poverty and caused many suicides, and there’s a substantial risk this could happen again.​

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Mental-health crisis hotlines are reporting spikes in calls. According to Express Scripts, anti-anxiety prescriptions increased by a third between mid-February and mid-March. Many in despair will probably turn to alcohol or narcotics. CVS executives warned this week that delayed care could lead to a surge of non-coronavirus related health problems. They include cancers undiagnosed and illnesses left untreated.​

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Hospitals have also had to cancel elective procedures, which is how they make most of their money. Stanford Health Care is cutting pay by 20% for its 14,000 workers. The California Medical Association reported that revenues at private practices have declined by two-thirds since March 1, and half have furloughed or laid off staff.​

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Congress has appropriated $175 billion to shore up hospitals, but this won’t help small physician practices much. Many health-care providers warn they may not survive if their privately insured patients lose jobs and sign up for Medicaid​

Are you volunteering yourself and your family to be the first victims of the inevitable massive case-surge after your impatience wins a re-opening?

Enough.

Your freedom ends when it mortally endangers my life.

Stay home.

Wear a mask.

Maintain social distancing.

Help to ensure that hospitals do not get overwhelmed and help to ensure that the most vulnerable elements of our population remain alive and healthy.

Live.

 

[sparky]

Your freedom ends when it mortally endangers my life.

so we can expect this every flu season ?

~S~

 

[JoeB131]

Man, what a bunch of bullshit you just wrote!

So winning the Electoral College is cheating according to you?

Yes, it is. It's gaming the system instead of winning the support of the people.

The same people who believe Trump is not being held accountable enough are the same people that refuse to hold China and the UN/WHO accountable at all.

China and WHO didn't ignore this problem for three months and call it a hoax. China and the WHO aren't the ones calling to reopen the country before we got this thing contained.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Man, what a bunch of bullshit you just wrote!

So winning the Electoral College is cheating according to you?

Yes, it is. It's gaming the system instead of winning the support of the people.

The same people who believe Trump is not being held accountable enough are the same people that refuse to hold China and the UN/WHO accountable at all.

China and WHO didn't ignore this problem for three months and call it a hoax. China and the WHO aren't the ones calling to reopen the country before we got this thing contained.

Again, yet another one who refuses to hold China and WHO accountable for ANYTHING. . It’s ALL Trump’s fault.

 

[Kondor3]

Your freedom ends when it mortally endangers my life.

so we can expect this every flu season ?

~S~

Nope.

But you can expect this every time we have a 1918 Spanish Influenza or 2020 Coronavirus outbreak, where the mortality rate is so much higher.

 

[Oldestyle]

Its a bad choice either way

but not opening up will be worse

Yeah. People might actually hold Trump accountable. That would be tragic for you guys.

And there it is, folks! The real reason that those on the left want to keep things closed down and kill the economy! Because they think it will hurt Trump! Never mind the millions of Americans that will lose their jobs forever as companies go bankrupt and close. Anything to gain power. Anything to get another flawed candidate elected.

 

[Oldestyle]

Folks dont worry so much. Economic activity is being suppressed by the lockdowns but they will be almost all gone by end of October, and those that still do lockdowns will be blue states losing businesses to red states.

That wont last very long because the businesses will be taking their taxes with them, and we are not bailing out any corrupt and mismanaged states like New York.

Trump is the best man to guide us back into a full re-opening and that is what scares the beejeebus out of the Democrats.

You're kind of delusional, buddy.

Here's how it's going to play out. Best case scenario, we end the lockdowns in June and hopefully that won't cause a spike in new cases. If it does, we'll be right back where we started from.

But even if it doesn't, a lot of those small businesses will be GONE. They won't be coming back.

Then you are going to see the second wave in layoffs. All the "essential" workers who are going to find themselves downsized because their industries aren't making as much, or the new influx of unemployed means they can find someone to do the job for cheaper.

THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD. If Trump were a leader, he'd level with people and prepare them for the worst. This is what Bush did after 9/11. This is what FDR did during the Great Depression.

His bragging how awesome he is was wearing a bit thin on people before we had 80,000 corpses.

You want Trump to do what FDR did during The Great Depression? So you want us to wallow in economic collapse for the next ten years? Why would anyone want a replay of that?

Let Trump do what he does best...handle an economic resurgence. You think Joe Biden and the Democrats know how to fix an economy? How did "Hairplugs" do when he was second in command of The Great Recession?

 

[sparky]

Your freedom ends when it mortally endangers my life.

so we can expect this every flu season ?

~S~

Nope.

But you can expect this every time we have a 1918 Spanish Influenza or 2020 Coronavirus outbreak, where the mortality rate is so much higher.

but the #'s aren't the same

Seasonal Flu vs. Pandemic Flu Infographic

Did you know that seasonal flu and pandemic flu are not the same? Here is everything you need to know.

www.cdc.gov

so.....where is the lockdown line drawn???

~S~