The Economic Lockdown Catastrophe The worst jobs report in history shows why the economy must reopen.

[NotYourBody]

This is about lives vs jobs. People value their lives more.

Such ignorance.

For some people, their jobs ARE their lives. If they lose those jobs, they lose their life.

That sounds like some lame-ass job. Who would work under those circumstances? You lose this job, you die.

Tell me, what jobs require this kind of sacrifice?

 

[TemplarKormac]

This is about lives vs jobs. People value their lives more.

Such ignorance.

For some people, their jobs ARE their lives. If they lose those jobs, they lose their life.

That sounds like some lame-ass job. Who would work under those circumstances? You lose this job, you die.

Tell me, what jobs require this kind of sacrifice?

Sigh.

First you lose your job, then you lose your paycheck, and then you lose your means to buy food and clothing, soon you lose the means to pay for utilities and housing. You then lose the means to pay for your own healthcare. Ergo, the means to live.

So, what jobs require "that sacrifice"?

Just about all of them do, really.

You know nothing.

 

[bripat9643]

Its a bad choice either way

but not opening up will be worse

Yeah. People might actually hold Trump accountable. That would be tragic for you guys.

No, we need to hold the libs, who have perpetrated lie after lie after lie. This lockdown just being the latest. The left hates this country.

Not sure. Today am reading about infections on the president's valet, an aide to Ivanka and multiple on the president's security detail. Looks like the virus is no respecter of Rep vs Dem, trump supporter vs (dreaded) liberals, or even the white house walls. Heck, the military will not even accept corona infected into the service for fear of unleashing a dangerous infection in the close quarters of basic training stations, due to dangers identified. It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best. Probably why the constitution did not give him the power to enforce his will on the states and citizens.

Oh I agree its no respecter and doesn't discriminate but leaving our decisions up the state, local, and fed government had led us to great harm. The lefts actions show their disdain and hate for this country. Yes, they do hate the country. They're begging for socialism/communism. It will ultimately destroy them.

Maybe, but not

It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best.

the left merely tolerates America if things are going their way

they reserve hate for when they lose elections and they are not setting the agenda

Real Republicans only tolerate Don Trump if things are going their way. The reserve their disdain for trump when they lose election and are not setting the agenda.

In other words a "real Republican" is one without any principles?

You're truly a douchebag.

No. Not at all. That would be the trumptard 35%. Real republicans have been laying low for a while, most of the time since his election. I miss them, the conservative voices of reason.

Polls show that Trump's support among Republicans is at 95%. So who are these "real Republicans" you refer to?

 

[White 6]

Its a bad choice either way

but not opening up will be worse

Yeah. People might actually hold Trump accountable. That would be tragic for you guys.

No, we need to hold the libs, who have perpetrated lie after lie after lie. This lockdown just being the latest. The left hates this country.

Not sure. Today am reading about infections on the president's valet, an aide to Ivanka and multiple on the president's security detail. Looks like the virus is no respecter of Rep vs Dem, trump supporter vs (dreaded) liberals, or even the white house walls. Heck, the military will not even accept corona infected into the service for fear of unleashing a dangerous infection in the close quarters of basic training stations, due to dangers identified. It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best. Probably why the constitution did not give him the power to enforce his will on the states and citizens.

Oh I agree its no respecter and doesn't discriminate but leaving our decisions up the state, local, and fed government had led us to great harm. The lefts actions show their disdain and hate for this country. Yes, they do hate the country. They're begging for socialism/communism. It will ultimately destroy them.

Maybe, but not

It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best.

the left merely tolerates America if things are going their way

they reserve hate for when they lose elections and they are not setting the agenda

Real Republicans only tolerate Don Trump if things are going their way. The reserve their disdain for trump when they lose election and are not setting the agenda.

In other words a "real Republican" is one without any principles?

You're truly a douchebag.

No. Not at all. That would be the trumptard 35%. Real republicans have been laying low for a while, most of the time since his election. I miss them, the conservative voices of reason.

Polls show that Trump's support among Republicans is at 95%. So who are these "real Republicans" you refer to?

Many are the primaried that have not forgotton and those that supported them before the subversion of that once proud party known for thoughtful conservative leadership and sometime working across party lines to get things done for the whole country.

 

[bripat9643]

Its a bad choice either way

but not opening up will be worse

Yeah. People might actually hold Trump accountable. That would be tragic for you guys.

No, we need to hold the libs, who have perpetrated lie after lie after lie. This lockdown just being the latest. The left hates this country.

Not sure. Today am reading about infections on the president's valet, an aide to Ivanka and multiple on the president's security detail. Looks like the virus is no respecter of Rep vs Dem, trump supporter vs (dreaded) liberals, or even the white house walls. Heck, the military will not even accept corona infected into the service for fear of unleashing a dangerous infection in the close quarters of basic training stations, due to dangers identified. It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best. Probably why the constitution did not give him the power to enforce his will on the states and citizens.

Oh I agree its no respecter and doesn't discriminate but leaving our decisions up the state, local, and fed government had led us to great harm. The lefts actions show their disdain and hate for this country. Yes, they do hate the country. They're begging for socialism/communism. It will ultimately destroy them.

Maybe, but not

It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best.

the left merely tolerates America if things are going their way

they reserve hate for when they lose elections and they are not setting the agenda

Real Republicans only tolerate Don Trump if things are going their way. The reserve their disdain for trump when they lose election and are not setting the agenda.

In other words a "real Republican" is one without any principles?

You're truly a douchebag.

No. Not at all. That would be the trumptard 35%. Real republicans have been laying low for a while, most of the time since his election. I miss them, the conservative voices of reason.

Polls show that Trump's support among Republicans is at 95%. So who are these "real Republicans" you refer to?

Many are the primaried that have not forgotton and those that supported them before the subversion of that once proud party known for thoughtful conservative leadership and sometime working across party lines to get things done for the whole country.

By "thoughtful conservative leadership" you mean douchebags who sellout the citizens who voted for them.

 

[White 6]

Its a bad choice either way

but not opening up will be worse

Yeah. People might actually hold Trump accountable. That would be tragic for you guys.

No, we need to hold the libs, who have perpetrated lie after lie after lie. This lockdown just being the latest. The left hates this country.

Not sure. Today am reading about infections on the president's valet, an aide to Ivanka and multiple on the president's security detail. Looks like the virus is no respecter of Rep vs Dem, trump supporter vs (dreaded) liberals, or even the white house walls. Heck, the military will not even accept corona infected into the service for fear of unleashing a dangerous infection in the close quarters of basic training stations, due to dangers identified. It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best. Probably why the constitution did not give him the power to enforce his will on the states and citizens.

Oh I agree its no respecter and doesn't discriminate but leaving our decisions up the state, local, and fed government had led us to great harm. The lefts actions show their disdain and hate for this country. Yes, they do hate the country. They're begging for socialism/communism. It will ultimately destroy them.

Maybe, but not

It is not that the (dreaded) left hates this country. They don't. It is just that few trust the president, his motives or his judgement about what is best.

the left merely tolerates America if things are going their way

they reserve hate for when they lose elections and they are not setting the agenda

Real Republicans only tolerate Don Trump if things are going their way. The reserve their disdain for trump when they lose election and are not setting the agenda.

In other words a "real Republican" is one without any principles?

You're truly a douchebag.

No. Not at all. That would be the trumptard 35%. Real republicans have been laying low for a while, most of the time since his election. I miss them, the conservative voices of reason.

Polls show that Trump's support among Republicans is at 95%. So who are these "real Republicans" you refer to?

Many are the primaried that have not forgotton and those that supported them before the subversion of that once proud party known for thoughtful conservative leadership and sometime working across party lines to get things done for the whole country.

By "thoughtful conservative leadership" you mean douchebags who sellout the citizens who voted for them.

I would not describe them that way, but you are a Trumpet. You only hear your masters voice in the echo chamber you live in. So, not surprised you would think like that and call them names. Nobody would mistake your for thoughtful or conservative, as Trumpet you are.

 

[NotYourBody]

This is about lives vs jobs. People value their lives more.

Such ignorance.

For some people, their jobs ARE their lives. If they lose those jobs, they lose their life.

That sounds like some lame-ass job. Who would work under those circumstances? You lose this job, you die.

Tell me, what jobs require this kind of sacrifice?

Sigh.

First you lose your job, then you lose your paycheck, and then you lose your means to buy food and clothing, soon you lose the means to pay for utilities and housing. You then lose the means to pay for your own healthcare. Ergo, the means to live.

So, what jobs require "that sacrifice"?

Just about all of them do, really.

You know nothing.

There was a lot of life happening in there between the job loss and the death. Plenty of chances to get help. Stupidity is fatal I suppose.

 

[basquebromance]

government breaks your leg, then hands you a crutch and tells you to thank them.

we want FREEDOM!

 

[LoneLaugher]

 

[gulfman]

Lets look at this unemployment rate like Obama and the liberals would.
The ones that are furloughed don't count as unemployed.
The ones who are unemployed are really called previously employed,don't count them.
Times are great

 

[Seawytch]

 

[JoeB131]

Ummm - the so-called proven leaders, your favorite cliche, are the ones who shut down the states, not the president. Your "proven leaders " said the virus was no big threat, while Trump acted quickly to declare an emergency and stop travel from China. And the link has been posted numerous times. So stop beating a dead horse.

Uh, sorry, guy, Trump was downplaying it all the way until it exploded in Mid-March. You can't keep gaslighting the country. Trump disbanded the Pandemic Task Force, ignored two months of warnings, called the virus a "Hoax", claimed it was all going to go away.

 

[JoeB131]

Low estimates are 10-20 million infected but asymptomatic. On par with a weak flu year. And no, we don't need to force test everyone in this country. I'm not getting tested nor will I take a vaccine if one becomes available not will I or have I worn a mask.

Again, you science deniers are funny. Except for all the people dying, it would be hysterical.

 

[JoeB131]

Sigh.

First you lose your job, then you lose your paycheck, and then you lose your means to buy food and clothing, soon you lose the means to pay for utilities and housing. You then lose the means to pay for your own healthcare. Ergo, the means to live.

Okay, so why should that be? Most European countries, losing your job doesn't mean losing your health care. But someone suggests Medicare for all, you guys go off like they are going to ship you to the Gulag.

We just passed a bill to provide enhanced unemployment benefits. While most of that bill was unnecessary Corporate Welfare (Seriously, fuck the Cruise Ship Industry) that should be more than enough to tide people over.

The real problem here is that despite all of our supposed "prosperity", America is a country of gross wealth inequality, and this plague is hitting the most vulnerable.

So, what jobs require "that sacrifice"?

Just about all of them do, really.

You know nothing.

YOu aren't going to die from being laid off for a couple of months. (you'd know this if you ever held a real job). YOU WILL DIE if you catch Covid-19.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Low estimates are 10-20 million infected but asymptomatic. On par with a weak flu year. And no, we don't need to force test everyone in this country. I'm not getting tested nor will I take a vaccine if one becomes available not will I or have I worn a mask.

Again, you science deniers are funny. Except for all the people dying, it would be hysterical.

I don't deny science. I am a scientist.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

/——/ The very same libtards who complained the government dropped the ball on PPE distribution want Gubmint run Healthcare.

Well, we don't want Republicans running it, obviously, they fuck up everything.

So then we don't want libcommie health care since Republicans will be in charge half the time?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The real problem here is that despite all of our supposed "prosperity", America is a country of gross wealth inequality, and this plague is hitting the most vulnerable.

Totally stupid of course! China has 100 billionaires and 350 million living at subsistence and China is far better off than they were when there was no inequality and all were starving. Is this really over your head? Have you heard of China?

 

[busybee01]

All across the country you see the filthy Democrats resisting reopening.

They aren't doing it for public safety. They wouldn't know what public safety was if it bit them in the ass. The nitwits are doing it because they think it will hurt Trump.

They are willing to sell out this country to hurt Trump. That is just the kind of assholes they are.

Like most Democrat hairbrain schemes like Russia Russia Russia and Impeachement of course it won't work. The American people are smarter than the idiot Democrats. They know it is Biden's Chicom buddies that created this shit sandwich and that Trump has been doing a great job managing it.

You people demonstrate your stupidity every day. There is good reason to avoid re-opening. Trump could facilitate reopening by increasing the number of tests available. That is one reason that South Korea has been able to reopen. Trump is too lazy to do that. He endangers people's lives by pushing bogus cures.

 

[busybee01]

This is about lives vs jobs. People value their lives more.

Such ignorance.

For some people, their jobs ARE their lives. If they lose those jobs, they lose their life.

You are the ignorant one.

 

[busybee01]

Here is the reality: This shutdown cannot continue or it will destroy this country:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-economic-lockdown-catastrophe-11588978716​

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Unemployment in April soared to 14.7%—the highest rate since the government started keeping records in 1948—while employers shed 20.5 million more jobs after losing 870,000 in March. The labor-market bleeding is even worse than those numbers suggest since 6.4 million workers left the workforce.​

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Labor participation had been trending upward the past two years as faster job growth drew millions of low-income Americans from the sidelines. But the participation rate has now fallen 3.2 percentage points to 60.2% since a recent peak in February, the lowest since 1973 before large numbers of women started working.​

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Much of the media continue to treat the economic destruction as a sideshow and present a false choice between saving lives and jobs. But this is the fastest jobs collapse in modern history. The Great Depression drove millions of Americans into poverty and caused many suicides, and there’s a substantial risk this could happen again.​

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Mental-health crisis hotlines are reporting spikes in calls. According to Express Scripts, anti-anxiety prescriptions increased by a third between mid-February and mid-March. Many in despair will probably turn to alcohol or narcotics. CVS executives warned this week that delayed care could lead to a surge of non-coronavirus related health problems. They include cancers undiagnosed and illnesses left untreated.​

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Hospitals have also had to cancel elective procedures, which is how they make most of their money. Stanford Health Care is cutting pay by 20% for its 14,000 workers. The California Medical Association reported that revenues at private practices have declined by two-thirds since March 1, and half have furloughed or laid off staff.​

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Congress has appropriated $175 billion to shore up hospitals, but this won’t help small physician practices much. Many health-care providers warn they may not survive if their privately insured patients lose jobs and sign up for Medicaid​

This is about lives vs jobs. People value their lives more.



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On March 25, Cargill worker Rafael Benjamin was ordered by a supervisor to remove his mask because it was creating unnecessary fears among plant employees. Benjamin was admitted to the ICU and put on a ventilator weeks later. He died on April 19 https://trib.al/mg1R6z3

Let them decide that.

Furthermore, it's almost entirely about the lives of people in nursing homes who are near death anyway. Virtually no one under the age of 65 has anything to worry about.

Let them decide to infect other people? I think not.