The Electoral College is not fair!

The electoral college actually makes our elections fairer. Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.

No it does not. what is fair that one vote in Wyoming means more than a vote in CA or TX or MI or any populous state?

Voter suppression is dangerous, and no illegals do not vote, they do not go near polling places.
Hey Pen-a-lope.....the population of New York City is higher than Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama combined. Should one city in one state have more power to elect the president than 3 states in the nation? I think not.

and the less populous states have equal representatives in Congress to give them a voice.

You right wingers must think the EC is full of Congressmen!!
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .
Mob rule seldom has “fairness” in mind when exerting its power...

Yet in the US Congress and the Supreme Court its mob (maj) rule. Also most states are winner take all for the EC. You guys do not seem to understand the reasoning for the EC centuries ago, and today.
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .
Mob rule seldom has “fairness” in mind when exerting its power...

Yet in the US Congress and the Supreme Court its mob (maj) rule. Also most states are winner take all for the EC. You guys do not seem to understand the reasoning for the EC centuries ago, and today.
Wrong again. You’re nothing if not consistent. Educate yourself...
 
The electoral college actually makes our elections fairer. Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.

No it does not. what is fair that one vote in Wyoming means more than a vote in CA or TX or MI or any populous state?

Voter suppression is dangerous, and no illegals do not vote, they do not go near polling places.
Hey Pen-a-lope.....the population of New York City is higher than Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama combined. Should one city in one state have more power to elect the president than 3 states in the nation? I think not.

and the less populous states have equal representatives in Congress to give them a voice.

You right wingers must think the EC is full of Congressmen!!
Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.
And liberals lie all the time....which is why liberal main stream media's polling is worse than President Trumps....and people like you are clueless about how fucked up Socialism was, is and always will be...Cant fix stupid and they vote Democrat.
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .
Mob rule seldom has “fairness” in mind when exerting its power...

Yet in the US Congress and the Supreme Court its mob (maj) rule. Also most states are winner take all for the EC. You guys do not seem to understand the reasoning for the EC centuries ago, and today.
Before Harry Reid(you know the guy who got smacked down by his PE equipment) was the guy who went nuclear on justice nominees, he was warned that it could come back and bite the Dems in the ass, and it has....Because liberals are just plain stupid.

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Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .
Mob rule seldom has “fairness” in mind when exerting its power...

Yet in the US Congress and the Supreme Court its mob (maj) rule. Also most states are winner take all for the EC. You guys do not seem to understand the reasoning for the EC centuries ago, and today.
Those states that are controlled by the Democrats are, but like with Ohio, when President Trump promised to bring jobs back and has, do you think those states that would of split the vote now would have all EC go to President Trump thus like Ronald Reagan's re-election be a landslide. Liberals never learn, because they dont study history, which ends up repeating itself and the Dimwitocraps just rage and burn cities again.
 
The electoral college actually makes our elections fairer. Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.

No it does not. what is fair that one vote in Wyoming means more than a vote in CA or TX or MI or any populous state?

Voter suppression is dangerous, and no illegals do not vote, they do not go near polling places.
Hey Pen-a-lope.....the population of New York City is higher than Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama combined. Should one city in one state have more power to elect the president than 3 states in the nation? I think not.

and the less populous states have equal representatives in Congress to give them a voice.

You right wingers must think the EC is full of Congressmen!!
Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.
And liberals lie all the time....which is why liberal main stream media's polling is worse than President Trumps....and people like you are clueless about how fucked up Socialism was, is and always will be...Cant fix stupid and they vote Democrat.

Yet you believe in corporate socialism. So do you think the EC is full of congressmen?? And the EC fights for the states in congress??

By the way it sound you right wingers think that, that is the way small states get represented, nothing can be further from the truth.
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .
Mob rule seldom has “fairness” in mind when exerting its power...

Yet in the US Congress and the Supreme Court its mob (maj) rule. Also most states are winner take all for the EC. You guys do not seem to understand the reasoning for the EC centuries ago, and today.
Those states that are controlled by the Democrats are, but like with Ohio, when President Trump promised to bring jobs back and has, do you think those states that would of split the vote now would have all EC go to President Trump thus like Ronald Reagan's re-election be a landslide. Liberals never learn, because they dont study history, which ends up repeating itself and the Dimwitocraps just rage and burn cities again.

Tell that to Texas and Florida , they will not divide EC's up. You are aware TX is the 2nd most populous state, aren't you? The third is Florida.
 
The electoral college actually makes our elections fairer. Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.

No it does not. what is fair that one vote in Wyoming means more than a vote in CA or TX or MI or any populous state?

Voter suppression is dangerous, and no illegals do not vote, they do not go near polling places.
Hey Pen-a-lope.....the population of New York City is higher than Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama combined. Should one city in one state have more power to elect the president than 3 states in the nation? I think not.

and the less populous states have equal representatives in Congress to give them a voice.

You right wingers must think the EC is full of Congressmen!!
Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.
And liberals lie all the time....which is why liberal main stream media's polling is worse than President Trumps....and people like you are clueless about how fucked up Socialism was, is and always will be...Cant fix stupid and they vote Democrat.

Yet you believe in corporate socialism. So do you think the EC is full of congressmen?? And the EC fights for the states in congress??

By the way it sound you right wingers think that, that is the way small states get represented, nothing can be further from the truth.
What is corporate socialism? Unions? Fuck no, unions again make sure that the best get paid the same as the laggard does, thus creating animosity amongst the workers, then over promises pensions and healthcare thus putting the burden on the corporations and soon those corps go bankrupt, unions still gets their dues, but the employees are out of work. Again proving that Socialism fails even in a (supposedly)free society that unions force their workers to join...
 
The electoral college actually makes our elections fairer. Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.

No it does not. what is fair that one vote in Wyoming means more than a vote in CA or TX or MI or any populous state?

Voter suppression is dangerous, and no illegals do not vote, they do not go near polling places.
Hey Pen-a-lope.....the population of New York City is higher than Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama combined. Should one city in one state have more power to elect the president than 3 states in the nation? I think not.

and the less populous states have equal representatives in Congress to give them a voice.

You right wingers must think the EC is full of Congressmen!!
Illegal voting and our biased media and education systems are far more dangerous to our countries survival.
And liberals lie all the time....which is why liberal main stream media's polling is worse than President Trumps....and people like you are clueless about how fucked up Socialism was, is and always will be...Cant fix stupid and they vote Democrat.

Yet you believe in corporate socialism. So do you think the EC is full of congressmen?? And the EC fights for the states in congress??

By the way it sound you right wingers think that, that is the way small states get represented, nothing can be further from the truth.
What is corporate socialism? Unions? Fuck no, unions again make sure that the best get paid the same as the laggard does, thus creating animosity amongst the workers, then over promises pensions and healthcare thus putting the burden on the corporations and soon those corps go bankrupt, unions still gets their dues, but the employees are out of work. Again proving that Socialism fails even in a (supposedly)free society that unions force their workers to join...

No the corporations control the congress with their lobbying, and monopolies. Small businesses are the job creators and small businesses do not lobby nor do they get tax breaks.
This thread is not about socialism though, its about the EC.
 
Trump won Florida by 112,911 votes and got all the 29 EC votes. Bush JR won it by less than 600 votes and got all the EC's.
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .

A "quaint and archaic system". Says the man typing from a KINGDOM with a goshdarn QUEEN

that's great Tommy tell us some more

Says the "subject" you mean. :auiqs.jpg:
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.
Its a quaint and archaic system. The person with the most votes should win , that is the same all over the world. Any system that gets in the way of that is corrupt. .
While your government is currently ignoring the vote of the people on Brexit. Totalitarians are all the same.
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.

If you try to mess with the EC, you're going to run into the same problem that prompted it in the first place. There's just not much incentive for small, rural states to belong to a federation if their votes are simply going to be ignored in favor of densely populated urban states.
 
Below is a list of states along with their populations, number of electoral votes, and a percentage that demonstrates the relative value of a vote cast in that state compared to the national average For example, in 2008, on average a state is awarded one electoral vote for every 565,166 people.

However, Wyoming has three electoral votes and only 532,668 citizens (as of 2008 estimates). As a result each of Wyoming's three electoral votes corresponds to 177,556 people. Understood in one way, these people have 3.18 times as much clout in the Electoral College as an average American, or 318% (as listed in the pdf chart, downloadable below).

Population vs. Electoral Votes - Fairvote
---------------------------------------

Maj. rule happens in the Federal and State House and Senate and the Supreme Court. Yet the maj vote does not count in the elections for Potus. WHY?

While there is evidence that the founders assumed the electors would be independent actors,
https://www.history.com/topics/us-presidents/electoral-college

There are 2 Senators from every state and they have their representatives in the house to bring their voices to the congress. We do not need the EC any more. The population of the US in 1800 was about 5 million and only 13 states, people were uneducated and the workers did not vote, or the women or blacks, only the rich white men aka the founders.

Most workers did not even know who was running when the EC was invented.

If you try to mess with the EC, you're going to run into the same problem that prompted it in the first place. There's just not much incentive for small, rural states to belong to a federation if their votes are simply going to be ignored in favor of densely populated urban states.

Their votes will not be ignored unless the republicans suppress them.
 

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