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You’ve succeeded in exhibiting the ignorance of libertarians.
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You also exhibit your ignorance as to liberals, as they do not seek ‘validation’ from government, or any other entity for that matter
If you set a precedent for behaviors becoming akin to race, then you set precedents that are poised to unravel each state's penal and civil codes where anyone can claim a behavior "feels inborn or innate" and thereby justify just about any behavior under the sun getting to do "anything that feels natural to its expression".
The Evidence Supporting Prop 8 As Law In California Becomes Overwhelming
Fine, I'll answer one more time.
Yes.
The socons opposition to gay marriage is also based on bigotry, they don't care about small government, they want government based on their morality. So they only oppose it because they condemn gays.
Libertarians oppose gay marriage because it expands marriage and there is no persuasive need for it. As a liberal, you need government validation. You don't grasp that we don't, which is why you never understand the answer to your question.
No. We just debated this point ad nauseam. Re-read the last several pages. I'm not repeating it for you.
Is this the same question or a different one?
You make no sense. It was bigotry when they say bans on interracial marriage weren't discriminatory, but it's not bigotry when you use the same argument to say its not discrimination to prevent gays from marrying?
How did you get in the military with no reading comprehension? I'm not arguing what I didn't say with you or World anymore. If you can't read, grasp and respond lucidly to what I'm saying, then there's no point.
Youve succeeded in exhibiting the ignorance of libertarians.
...
You also exhibit your ignorance as to liberals, as they do not seek validation from government, or any other entity for that matter
I don't respond to most of your posts because all you do is pontificate about how liberal farts don't stick and Republicans are the devil. But the fact on this one Homey is that it's an endless game that gays and liberals both play.
When I say it's for the money, they say no, it's for the validation.
When I ask why they need government validation, they say it's not that, it's the money.
When I ask why they should get money for being gay, they say it's not the money, it's the validation....
You’ve succeeded in exhibiting the ignorance of libertarians.
...
You also exhibit your ignorance as to liberals, as they do not seek ‘validation’ from government, or any other entity for that matter
I don't respond to most of your posts because all you do is pontificate about how liberal farts don't stick and Republicans are the devil. But the fact on this one Homey is that it's an endless game that gays and liberals both play.
When I say it's for the money, they say no, it's for the validation.
When I ask why they need government validation, they say it's not that, it's the money.
When I ask why they should get money for being gay, they say it's not the money, it's the validation....
So which one do you fall under Mr. Married Man? Did you get married for the validation or the cash and prizes? Do you hold your married self in as much contempt as those that just want to be able to be married?
You make no sense. It was bigotry when they say bans on interracial marriage weren't discriminatory, but it's not bigotry when you use the same argument to say its not discrimination to prevent gays from marrying?
How did you get in the military with no reading comprehension? I'm not arguing what I didn't say with you or World anymore. If you can't read, grasp and respond lucidly to what I'm saying, then there's no point.
I can read just fine. You don't believe that gays are discriminated against by not being allowed to marry the consenting adult of their choice because you can't marry a man either....the same argument that was used in Loving that you agree was bigotry.
How did you get in the military with no reading comprehension? I'm not arguing what I didn't say with you or World anymore. If you can't read, grasp and respond lucidly to what I'm saying, then there's no point.
I can read just fine. You don't believe that gays are discriminated against by not being allowed to marry the consenting adult of their choice because you can't marry a man either....the same argument that was used in Loving that you agree was bigotry.
Wow, a welfare queen who can't read thinks I'm a bigot. I won't be back for a few hours, I'm going to cry my eyes out.
I don't respond to most of your posts because all you do is pontificate about how liberal farts don't stick and Republicans are the devil. But the fact on this one Homey is that it's an endless game that gays and liberals both play.
When I say it's for the money, they say no, it's for the validation.
When I ask why they need government validation, they say it's not that, it's the money.
When I ask why they should get money for being gay, they say it's not the money, it's the validation....
So which one do you fall under Mr. Married Man? Did you get married for the validation or the cash and prizes? Do you hold your married self in as much contempt as those that just want to be able to be married?
Typical liberal flaming hypocrite. You want the death tax and progressive taxes, then you don't want to pay them. Just like the ass Obama who says he should pay more taxes, and doesn't. And Buffet who says he should pay more taxes, and actually evades them.
Gay is just another scam to get money to you.
Liberalism, stupidity inside inanity all wrapped up in greed.
Fag-bashers lost.
I can read just fine. You don't believe that gays are discriminated against by not being allowed to marry the consenting adult of their choice because you can't marry a man either....the same argument that was used in Loving that you agree was bigotry.
Wow, a welfare queen who can't read thinks I'm a bigot. I won't be back for a few hours, I'm going to cry my eyes out.
Awful lot of deflection on your part. Does it make you uncomfortable to face your bigotry and this is how you act out?
How am I a welfare queen for wanting equal access to the same marriage laws you enjoy? Are you saying you're a welfare queen?
Funny, I keep saying this and you keep ignoring it
So which one do you fall under Mr. Married Man? Did you get married for the validation or the cash and prizes? Do you hold your married self in as much contempt as those that just want to be able to be married?
Typical liberal flaming hypocrite. You want the death tax and progressive taxes, then you don't want to pay them. Just like the ass Obama who says he should pay more taxes, and doesn't. And Buffet who says he should pay more taxes, and actually evades them.
Gay is just another scam to get money to you.
Liberalism, stupidity inside inanity all wrapped up in greed.
I've been legally married for over four years now and never saw a dime for it. In fact, I paid EXTRA taxes for those years since my partners health care isn't taken from pre tax dollars. It will be now that DOMA was struck down.
Funny, I keep saying this and you keep ignoring it. Go ahead and take away the cash and prizes. We're still going to want equal access to legal, civil marriage tax breaks or no tax breaks.
Wow, a welfare queen who can't read thinks I'm a bigot. I won't be back for a few hours, I'm going to cry my eyes out.
Awful lot of deflection on your part. Does it make you uncomfortable to face your bigotry and this is how you act out?
How am I a welfare queen for wanting equal access to the same marriage laws you enjoy? Are you saying you're a welfare queen?
You hate DOMA because it kept you in your own trap. YOU want progressive taxes and the death tax. Well, not for you, you're gay. Being gay exempts you from the integrity and of being subject to your own rules. Gay is just a reason for you to stick your hand in someone else's pocket. You want high taxes? Pay them yourself first. Welfare Queen.
Awful lot of deflection on your part. Does it make you uncomfortable to face your bigotry and this is how you act out?
How am I a welfare queen for wanting equal access to the same marriage laws you enjoy? Are you saying you're a welfare queen?
You hate DOMA because it kept you in your own trap. YOU want progressive taxes and the death tax. Well, not for you, you're gay. Being gay exempts you from the integrity and of being subject to your own rules. Gay is just a reason for you to stick your hand in someone else's pocket. You want high taxes? Pay them yourself first. Welfare Queen.
This is so funny coming from the legally married guy.
You hate DOMA because it kept you in your own trap. YOU want progressive taxes and the death tax. Well, not for you, you're gay. Being gay exempts you from the integrity and of being subject to your own rules. Gay is just a reason for you to stick your hand in someone else's pocket. You want high taxes? Pay them yourself first. Welfare Queen.
You hate DOMA because it kept you in your own trap. YOU want progressive taxes and the death tax. Well, not for you, you're gay. Being gay exempts you from the integrity and of being subject to your own rules. Gay is just a reason for you to stick your hand in someone else's pocket. You want high taxes? Pay them yourself first. Welfare Queen.
This is so funny coming from the legally married guy.
I oppose everything that I'm getting out of. You support everything you're trying to get out of. There's nothing "fishy," you're a flat out hypocrite, I'm not. You support high taxes? Pay them yourself, then lecture other people.
Bill Gates - advocates the death tax then sets up trusts of billions to evade them.
Warren Buffett - advocates minimum tax rates, then hires an army of accountants and implements a gimick of getting paid in capital gains to pay a lower rate.
Bill Clinton - deducts $50 per pair of used underwear
Hillary Clinton - turns an investment of a couple K into six figures without paying taxes
Tom Daschle - Doesn't pay taxes on services given to him
Charlie Rangle - The head of the tax writing committee didn't know what every business man and investor in America does, you have to pay taxes on foreign income.
Al Gore - illegally raising funds by not following rules to make them tax free and not paying taxes on them.
DOMA is inconvenient only to your hypocrisy. Not being subject to your own rules. Government not taking taxes from you that you advocate being taken from others is no different than any other sort of welfare, welfare queen.
Take away the tax breaks and DOMA is still discrimination and still unconstitutional (just like Prop 8)...and you still don't think it is discrimination. That makes you a bigot.
Bill Gates - advocates the death tax then sets up trusts of billions to evade them.
Warren Buffett - advocates minimum tax rates, then hires an army of accountants and implements a gimick of getting paid in capital gains to pay a lower rate.
Bill Clinton - deducts $50 per pair of used underwear
Hillary Clinton - turns an investment of a couple K into six figures without paying taxes
Tom Daschle - Doesn't pay taxes on services given to him
Charlie Rangle - The head of the tax writing committee didn't know what every business man and investor in America does, you have to pay taxes on foreign income.
Al Gore - illegally raising funds by not following rules to make them tax free and not paying taxes on them.
No. When you accept that homosexuality is about behavior and not a person's identity, you learn that it isn't being a "bigot" to disagree with it. We discriminate against all manner of behaviors that society finds objectionable. Is someone a "bigot" for finding polygamy objectionable? No. It's another sexual behavior that society has found repugnant to promote as "normal". We can do that. It's called "democracy", not "bigotry".Take away the tax breaks and DOMA is still discrimination and still unconstitutional (just like Prop 8)...and you still don't think it is discrimination. That makes you a bigot.
