The evil Chinese communist dictatorship wants war

[gipper]

China does not own the South China Sea anymore than all the other nations bordering the sea own it

China wants exclusive rights they are not entitled to

Why do you want to be like senile Joe Biden?

 

[Unkotare]

As usual your point of view a way off the mark

According to polls most Taiwanese do not consider themselves [sic]

...

According to the hundreds of Taiwanese people I have known personally (some very personally), they DO consider themselves Chinese but certainly NOT part of the PRC.

 

[Unkotare]

I...Most Chinese don't relate to liberal democracy. ...

Bullshit.

 

[Unkotare]

....

Japan is a competitor ...

No.

 

[The Duke]

You could be right, but most informed observers think it will be a few more years

If they strike sooner I think (hope?) biden will have a Harry Truman moment and do the right thing

Biden will not do the right thing. He doesn't know what the right thing is.
And if he did, that isn't what he'd do. He'd do what is best for him, not America.

 

[multivita-man]

Bullshit.

It's not bullshit -- I mean Chinese in China.

Elsewhere? Sure you have a point, but we were clearly discussing mainland China.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

When China decides to act, it will act and we will do nothing but demand pronoun recognition.

 

[Failzero]

Well, it would if you had reading comprehension skills.

Do you buy your rice in 6 Kilo burlap bags ?

 

[Failzero]

When China decides to act, it will act and we will do nothing but demand pronoun recognition.

QFT

 

[Rogue AI]

If you recall “Taiwan” made no claims to mainland china

The Kuomintang was a dictatorship that occupied Taiwan following the communist victory in the chinese civil war

The native Taiwanese people were never consulted about ruling all of china

Over time the KMT lost its grip on Taiwan due to peaceful western-style democratic reform and now the Taiwanese people are directing their own affairs

In fact they did, the KMT didn't go to Taiwan for vacation. The hope was that with Western backing the KMT would return to the mainland and defeat the Chinese. You didn't see KMT and Taiwan seek independence for decades, in which they easily could have, prior to our recognition of the CCP. Sorry, but pretending that Taiwan is just some innocent victim here isn't going to fly.

 

[gipper]

According to the hundreds of Taiwanese people I have known personally (some very personally), they DO consider themselves Chinese but certainly NOT part of the PRC.

Hopefully they recognize the neocons in the White House want to turn their nation into another Ukraine, and do all they can to avoid it.

 

[Rogue AI]

According to the hundreds of Taiwanese people I have known personally (some very personally), they DO consider themselves Chinese but certainly NOT part of the PRC.

This isn't a personal or anecdotal issue, it's a political issue. Such silliness really has no place in this discussion.

 

[Unkotare]

This isn't a personal or anecdotal issue, it's a political issue. Such silliness really has no place in this discussion.

When someone is talking about the personal feelings thoughts and experiences of real people, the actual thought experiences in real people is entirely relevant to the discussion.

 

[Rogue AI]

When someone is talking about the personal feelings thoughts and experiences of real people, the actual thought experiences in real people is entirely relevant to the discussion.

Not particularly, since when China decides to take Taiwan, those feelings will play absolutely no part in that decision.

 

[Unkotare]

Not particularly, since when China decides to take Taiwan, those feelings will play absolutely no part in that decision.

Baseless speculation is baseless speculation

 

[Rogue AI]

Baseless speculation is baseless speculation

You live in fantasy land if you actually believe China will not successfully annex Taiwan. Not our fight, not our problem.

 

[Failzero]

You live in fantasy land if you actually believe China will not successfully annex Taiwan. Not our fight, not our problem.

But 40 Million Illegals in last 30 years is an invasion

 

[22lcidw]

Our decline in world stature will continue. Japan and South Korea although along with China have a contentious history with each other would make a great alliance at some point. Year from now Progs will still persecute Deplorables saying it is their fault as y then, pedophile relationships will be legitimized along with euthanasia and bestiality in view. The Far Eastern Alliance will let the United States have its sphere of influence within the Western Hemisphere to a point to keep the pressure cooker at a reasonable temperature. Our standard of living will of course, continue to decline.

 

[Mac-7]

Actually, they are pulling the same shit we play in the pacific when we claim we have jurisdiction for hundreds of miles around Guam.

The US claim is approved by international law

China’s is not

In fact its claims have been rejected in international courts

They dont want to leave nothing for the smaller nations

No fishing rights and no mineral rights

The greedy commies want it all for themselves

 

[Mac-7]

You’ll believe anything put out by the MIC aka Ministry of Truth.

What is your fucking problem?

Just because you hate America does not mean you have to love china

The communists may be an even bigger threat to what you care about and you wouldnt even know it