The Flag of Treason

[rightwinger]

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LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

We lost Vietnam ... can we still fly the American Flag?

We didn't lose Vietnam.

We took our ball and went home

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

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Always has been

Except that's not the Confederate flag.

Pssst.... STILL WAITING for you to address Rick Wilson's cooler.

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

 

[cnm]

Yea, yea

Confederate Battle Flag

It is now the symbol of the confederacy and a symbol of racism

To be pedantic, it is the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia that is now a symbol of the confederacy and of racism.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Just because a group uses a flag, symbol or picture for their belief does not mean EVERY damn use is for that IN FACT the VAST majority of confederate symbology has no connection to racism at all. Using your logic we should get rid of the US Flag because GUESS what RACIST use it too.

 

[OKTexas]

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LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?

"It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?"

the confederacy WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY!


The Confederate States of America was a collection of 11 states that seceded from the United States in 1860 following the election of President Abraham Lincoln. Led by Jefferson Davis and existing from 1861 to 1865, the Confederacy struggled for legitimacy and was never recognized as a sovereign nation.Aug 21, 2018


they LEFT the union and started their own country and then ATTACKED the Union.

treason
traitors

Actually the union started the war with it's occupation and reinforcement of territory belonging to the sovereign State of South Carolina.

Ft Sumter was United States territory

South Carolina was too until it succeeded and the land Ft. Sumpter sits on was and is most certainly a part that State. Also armed foreign presence in a major harbor constitutes a blockade which is itself an act of war. The Union was asked nicely to leave and was given time to do so. Instead Lincoln sent more troops into South Carolina which was another act of war.

The South had no Constitutional right to leave the Union. It takes an act of Congress to leave not a Unilateral decision by a state.

Exactly where is that written in the Constitution?

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It is implied. And was affirmed in 1869 by the Supreme Court when the Southern States tried to sue their way out after losing the Civil War.

No, it's implied nowhere in the text of the Constitution. And who'd a thunk the prevailing countries courts invalidated succession. But hey, look at the bright side, the courts also invalidated the debts the Confederate States mounted. The courts cited the Articles of Confederation for their decision, which anyone with half a brain knows was intentionally nullified with the ratification of the Constitution. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

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[zaangalewa]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag? ...

Perhaps because it is a nice flag and strange ideas make the world not to a better place? The confederates fought for their independence and they lost against an about 1:3 superior hostile power. No need for the winners to be proud - no need for the losers to feel bad. History are facts - not opinions.

 

[OKTexas]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

The Confederate flag stood as a symbol for the Confederacy and the Confederacy was about way more than slavery. Even slavery wasn't about hatred of blacks or there would be no more blacks. A man doesn't spend a lot of money to buy feed and shelter a mule he needs to plow his fields. Why assume he hates the mule because he owns it? He is concerned about the well being of the mule if for no other reason than it effects his own well being.

The Confederate Flag was designed as a symbol of....WE HATE AMERICA.
That is why they broke away


They hated a United States that was moving away from slavery and created their own nation dedicated to the institution of slavery.

You're a liar, slavery was only one reason the south succeeded.

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[OKTexas]

A man doesn't spend a lot of money to buy feed and shelter a mule he needs to plow his fields.

Now you have defined the crux of the Confederacy. They looked at blacks as no more than animals.
Why that flag is hated

Well I guess the supreme court needs to be abolished as well, they affirmed a black man was the property of another black man, the first known slave in the US. When you commies figure out you can't judge people, who lived in different times and under different laws, by today's standards, the quicker this country will move forward.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

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LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?

"It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?"

the confederacy WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY!


The Confederate States of America was a collection of 11 states that seceded from the United States in 1860 following the election of President Abraham Lincoln. Led by Jefferson Davis and existing from 1861 to 1865, the Confederacy struggled for legitimacy and was never recognized as a sovereign nation.Aug 21, 2018


they LEFT the union and started their own country and then ATTACKED the Union.

treason
traitors

Actually the union started the war with it's occupation and reinforcement of territory belonging to the sovereign State of South Carolina.

Ft Sumter was United States territory

South Carolina was too until it succeeded and the land Ft. Sumpter sits on was and is most certainly a part that State. Also armed foreign presence in a major harbor constitutes a blockade which is itself an act of war. The Union was asked nicely to leave and was given time to do so. Instead Lincoln sent more troops into South Carolina which was another act of war.

The South had no Constitutional right to leave the Union. It takes an act of Congress to leave not a Unilateral decision by a state.

Exactly where is that written in the Constitution?

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It is implied. And was affirmed in 1869 by the Supreme Court when the Southern States tried to sue their way out after losing the Civil War.

No, it's implied nowhere in the text of the Constitution. And who'd a thunk the prevailing countries courts invalidated succession. But hey, look at the bright side, the courts also invalidated the debts the Confederate States mounted. The courts cited the Articles of Confederation for their decision, which anyone with half a brain knows was intentionally nullified with the ratification of the Constitution. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

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In THIS Country the Supreme Court makes final decisions on matters of law involving the Government and the Supreme Court ruled and they also said as I did that it was implied by the fact that it took the whole body of Colonies to Ratified the Constitution. You can whine and cry and pretend anything you want but the FACTS are YOU LOST both on the battle field and in the Courts. And the FACT is if a State wants to leave the Union it must address that to the Congress. Failure can lead to armed enforcement by the US Government for that State to REMAIN in the Union. As for implied things the Courts have ruled other things are implied also and that is case law. Go cry to some other loser about how you were cheated.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

The Flag of Treason


I thought it was gonna be about this flag

Silly me
Thats the flag of patriotic centrists and peacful protesters lol

 

[LuckyDuck]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Our president doesn't support racism and the Confederate Battle Flag. What he does support, is that pesky wording in our Bill of Rights that "forbids Congress from abridging the freedom of speech." And the SCOTUS has already weighed in on the matter of flags and the freedom of speech. That allows idiots that wave the Confederate Flag, as well as the Nazi flag, to wave them and have them mounted on their property.
So, I suppose that anyone that wants to take away our various freedoms of speech, that individual would be the treasonous one.
If you were truly a "right-winger," you would support that Constitution and its Bill of Rights, including the freedom of speech. Otherwise, side with the enemy of the US, the former Democratic Party.

 

[cnm]

You're a liar, slavery was only one reason the south succeeded.

Yeah, right. The VP of the Confederacy is singing your tune, fer shure...

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https://www.owleyes.org/text/the-cornerstone-speech/read/text-of-stephenss-speechOur new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition.​

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

The Confederate flag stood as a symbol for the Confederacy and the Confederacy was about way more than slavery. Even slavery wasn't about hatred of blacks or there would be no more blacks. A man doesn't spend a lot of money to buy feed and shelter a mule he needs to plow his fields. Why assume he hates the mule because he owns it? He is concerned about the well being of the mule if for no other reason than it effects his own well being.

The Confederate Flag was designed as a symbol of....WE HATE AMERICA.
That is why they broke away


They hated a United States that was moving away from slavery and created their own nation dedicated to the institution of slavery.

You're a liar, slavery was only one reason the south succeeded.

.

Slavery was THE reason they ”seceded”

 

[rightwinger]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Our president doesn't support racism and the Confederate Battle Flag. What he does support, is that pesky wording in our Bill of Rights that "forbids Congress from abridging the freedom of speech." And the SCOTUS has already weighed in on the matter of flags and the freedom of speech. That allows idiots that wave the Confederate Flag, as well as the Nazi flag, to wave them and have them mounted on their property.
So, I suppose that anyone that wants to take away our various freedoms of speech, that individual would be the treasonous one.
If you were truly a "right-winger," you would support that Constitution and its Bill of Rights, including the freedom of speech. Otherwise, side with the enemy of the US, the former Democratic Party.

Your property....Your rules

 

[OKTexas]

N

LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?

"It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?"

the confederacy WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY!


The Confederate States of America was a collection of 11 states that seceded from the United States in 1860 following the election of President Abraham Lincoln. Led by Jefferson Davis and existing from 1861 to 1865, the Confederacy struggled for legitimacy and was never recognized as a sovereign nation.Aug 21, 2018


they LEFT the union and started their own country and then ATTACKED the Union.

treason
traitors

Actually the union started the war with it's occupation and reinforcement of territory belonging to the sovereign State of South Carolina.

Ft Sumter was United States territory

South Carolina was too until it succeeded and the land Ft. Sumpter sits on was and is most certainly a part that State. Also armed foreign presence in a major harbor constitutes a blockade which is itself an act of war. The Union was asked nicely to leave and was given time to do so. Instead Lincoln sent more troops into South Carolina which was another act of war.

The South had no Constitutional right to leave the Union. It takes an act of Congress to leave not a Unilateral decision by a state.

Exactly where is that written in the Constitution?

.

It is implied. And was affirmed in 1869 by the Supreme Court when the Southern States tried to sue their way out after losing the Civil War.

No, it's implied nowhere in the text of the Constitution. And who'd a thunk the prevailing countries courts invalidated succession. But hey, look at the bright side, the courts also invalidated the debts the Confederate States mounted. The courts cited the Articles of Confederation for their decision, which anyone with half a brain knows was intentionally nullified with the ratification of the Constitution. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

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In THIS Country the Supreme Court makes final decisions on matters of law involving the Government and the Supreme Court ruled and they also said as I did that it was implied by the fact that it took the whole body of Colonies to Ratified the Constitution. You can whine and cry and pretend anything you want but the FACTS are YOU LOST both on the battle field and in the Courts. And the FACT is if a State wants to leave the Union it must address that to the Congress. Failure can lead to armed enforcement by the US Government for that State to REMAIN in the Union. As for implied things the Courts have ruled other things are implied also and that is case law. Go cry to some other loser about how you were cheated.

Got it, free men should only be able to govern themselves, IF they have the biggest baddest armies. Damn, I never realized Jefferson made that founding idea conditional.

.

 

[OKTexas]

You're a liar, slavery was only one reason the south succeeded.

Yeah, right. The VP of the Confederacy is singing your tune, fer shure...

​

https://www.owleyes.org/text/the-cornerstone-speech/read/text-of-stephenss-speechOur new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition.​

And that was a perfectly acceptable and legal argument at the time, in the North and South. So saying it was the sole reason the South decided they could no longer remain in the union is pure bullshit.

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[OKTexas]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

The Confederate flag stood as a symbol for the Confederacy and the Confederacy was about way more than slavery. Even slavery wasn't about hatred of blacks or there would be no more blacks. A man doesn't spend a lot of money to buy feed and shelter a mule he needs to plow his fields. Why assume he hates the mule because he owns it? He is concerned about the well being of the mule if for no other reason than it effects his own well being.

The Confederate Flag was designed as a symbol of....WE HATE AMERICA.
That is why they broke away


They hated a United States that was moving away from slavery and created their own nation dedicated to the institution of slavery.

You're a liar, slavery was only one reason the south succeeded.

.

Slavery was THE reason they ”seceded”

See post 176.

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[cnm]

And that was a perfectly acceptable and legal argument at the time, in the North and South. So saying it was the sole reason the South decided they could no longer remain in the union is pure bullshit.

The Confederate VP is saying it is the foundation of the new government and the cause of secession. Ffs.

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution — African slavery as it exists amongst us — the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. ​

The "Cornerstone" Speech Full Text - Text of Stephens's Speech - Owl Eyes​

Who knew they had fake news in the middle 19th century? All the modern conveniences, eh?

 

[cnm]

See post 176.

For a load of claptrap that doesn't address the issue.

 

[bripat9643]

N

LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

So might makes right, eh douchebag?