The Flag of Treason

[Desperado]

Someone what is the difference between burning the American flag and flying the Confederate Flag,,,,, both show Freedom of Expression which is covered in the 1st Amendment

 

[Correll]

Someone what is the difference between burning the American flag and flying the Confederate Flag,,,,, both show Freedom of Expression which is covered in the 1st Amendment

The first is showing hate of a symbol of the United States of America, the second is showing regional pride in part of America


THus, the first shows that you are an anti-American piece of shit, and the second does not.

 

[Care4all]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

 

[Nostra]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

Jim Crow laws.................more of the Dimwinger party's racist heritage.

 

[rightwinger]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

Jim Crow laws.................more of the Dimwinger party's racist heritage.

Then why do you want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY?

 

[OKTexas]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

If you're interested in finding what works, just google Harris Rosen and see what he did with one neighborhood in FL after he adopted them, and what he did to turn it around to a shining example of what private citizens can do. The government pisses away money, Rosen is getting a 7 to 1 ROI in the community, including a near 100% high school graduation rate and about 70% going on to college graduation. He's trying to get other wealthy people to use his formula to improve the lives of the disadvantage in their areas.

.

 

[Nostra]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

Jim Crow laws.................more of the Dimwinger party's racist heritage.

Then why do you want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY?

Quote where I said I want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY, Chump.

 

[rightwinger]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

Jim Crow laws.................more of the Dimwinger party's racist heritage.

Then why do you want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY?

Quote where I said I want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY, Chump.

Good to hear

Then you agree we need to get rid of the fucking thing

 

[Nostra]

Why does our President support the racist, treasonous Confederate Flag?

Slick Willy flew the Stars and Bars over the State House while governor, so I assume you think he and Hitlery are both racist, right?

Hillary Clinton's 'Stars and Bars' Problem | Blaze Media

Where was Hillary Clinton and her call to remove the Confederate Flag during her time as first lady of Arkansas?

www.theblaze.com

Neither is President TODAY

Beside the point. The Confederacy does not exist today either. So what's your problem with the flag? Have you noticed that all 50 States have and fly flags of their own and probably all have had slavery one time or another? Hypocrisy.

I can understand wanting to keep the confederate flag alive for one's ancestry' s sake, my ancestors on my father's side were mostly confederates.... most were not slave owners, but so far in my ancestry search, I've found only 3 great great etc grandfather's that were... but most were just farmers, with no slaves....only their 8 to 12 children each, as their farm laborers.... but the men relatives still served in the Confederate States Army through being drafted...

But, and that's a big BUT.... What I have slowly realized over my decades, it's such a hurtful reminder of what human beings, that were slaves and the ancestors of today's African Americans, had to go through...

That flying flag is a sign to them, that they too are STILL thought of, as less than human beings....

And that's just unacceptable to me.... I want no part in a continuation of hurting them, even if simply their feelings.

Fine, if they don't like it then propose legislation to ban the flag and let everyone vote their feelings about it, but Ooops! those states and their legal systems were all created by evil slave owners and worse, the buildings fly the American flag, created by evil slave owners, and must abide by the US Constitution, which defined a black man as only three fifths of a white man, so legal channels are just too painful to pursue and black Americans have no choice but to ignore the law and just destroy the flags and monuments of the Confederacy when they are not too busy looting and burning Target stores.

Slavery was evil and were the Jim Crow laws, and black people were oppressed for much of our history, but they are no longer oppressed. Today, black Americans have all the same rights and opportunities as other Americans and we have a plethora of laws, government agencies to protect those rights, so if seeing someone waving a confederate flag, even if he is a white supremacist makes them feel less than human, it is is not because the guy with the flag has any particular weight or influence but because evil Democrats are exploiting the insecurities of black people for their own political gain before an election. It is you, not the guy with the flag who is causing them pain.

Easier said than done...
It's hard to pick oneself up by their bootstraps, when they were barefoot a few hundred years, and had no shoes.

Nonsense, we are a nation of immigrants. People came here with nothing who didn't even speak the language and the next generation flourished. Black people are being held back by people like you who tell them they are still oppressed and have no opportunities because some guy is carrying a flag.

I think the criminal tearing down of statues is wrong... They should legally be removed, in places where the statues were put up, with no local history behind them.... but the true history of these confederate officers belong in a museum, or on the grounds of historical battlefields, such as Gettysburg.... with historical reference.

I think the issue of the monuments should be put on the ballot case by case and let the voters decide. The facts that slavery and the Jim Crow laws once existed here are irrelevant to the conditions under which black Americans live today.

The last generation that lived during Jim Crow are mostly still alive today, and their children and grand children, are alive today as well.... who would have been disadvantaged from their parents living through it.... it's not in the distant past of distant relatives... as many seem to think.... it was the mid 1960s when the Johnson presidency civil rights act passed.....

Yes, they are struggling, and certainly in many inner cities, have criminality problems...from my outsider view... but.... I'm not so certain what society has done to help them, is helping all of them.... more policing isn't getting to the root of their problems and struggles, nor is a welfare check.... those are simply bandaids.... in my perspective as an outsider..... But there are plenty of successful black professionals that managed to make it out of the hardships in these areas, who could be great mentors or people who can give advise to legislators etc... And others within the communities who are tired of the crime, and afraid for their children and grandchildren, including the fear of cops, harming them...who can identify first hand, what changes could be helpful.

Jim Crow laws.................more of the Dimwinger party's racist heritage.

Then why do you want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY?

Quote where I said I want to fly the Confederate Flag TODAY, Chump.

Good to hear

Then you agree we need to get rid of the fucking thing

Nope.

Strike two.

Wanna make something else up, Fool?

 

[9thIDdoc]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

 

[RetiredGySgt]

N

LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?

"It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?"

the confederacy WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY!


The Confederate States of America was a collection of 11 states that seceded from the United States in 1860 following the election of President Abraham Lincoln. Led by Jefferson Davis and existing from 1861 to 1865, the Confederacy struggled for legitimacy and was never recognized as a sovereign nation.Aug 21, 2018


they LEFT the union and started their own country and then ATTACKED the Union.

treason
traitors

Actually the union started the war with it's occupation and reinforcement of territory belonging to the sovereign State of South Carolina.

Ft Sumter was United States territory

South Carolina was too until it succeeded and the land Ft. Sumpter sits on was and is most certainly a part that State. Also armed foreign presence in a major harbor constitutes a blockade which is itself an act of war. The Union was asked nicely to leave and was given time to do so. Instead Lincoln sent more troops into South Carolina which was another act of war.

The South had no Constitutional right to leave the Union. It takes an act of Congress to leave not a Unilateral decision by a state.

Exactly where is that written in the Constitution?

.

It is implied. And was affirmed in 1869 by the Supreme Court when the Southern States tried to sue their way out after losing the Civil War.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

No it is NOT any of those things dumb ass, Learn a little history.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Flag of Treason

Look at these:

Now look at these:

The flag of treason???

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

No it is NOT any of those things dumb ass, Learn a little history.

What history do you believe?

That flag NEVER honored America
It HAS honored the KKK

 

[Nostra]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

No it is NOT any of those things dumb ass, Learn a little history.

What history do you believe?

That flag NEVER honored America
It HAS honored the KKK

It HAS honored the KKK

So has YOUR Dimwinger party..............hell, you formed the KKK.

 

[cnm]

N

LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?

Umm....the CSA?

 

[cnm]

N

LOL go fly your rainbow flag you gay faggot. As for the Confederate flag it is NOT treasonous as it does not exists anymore and all the confederates were pardoned. It is simply a historical flag of our past. Remind me do you support BLM in tearing down Washington's statue, Lincoln? Remind me again who is the traitor?

Not of "our past". Of the past. They lost.

It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?

"It is part of OUR past you stupid fuck. Or was the confederacy in another Country?"

the confederacy WAS ANOTHER COUNTRY!


The Confederate States of America was a collection of 11 states that seceded from the United States in 1860 following the election of President Abraham Lincoln. Led by Jefferson Davis and existing from 1861 to 1865, the Confederacy struggled for legitimacy and was never recognized as a sovereign nation.Aug 21, 2018


they LEFT the union and started their own country and then ATTACKED the Union.

treason
traitors

Actually the union started the war with it's occupation and reinforcement of territory belonging to the sovereign State of South Carolina.

Even though the legal position is the complete reverse.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Confederate Flag is a flag that says.....We HATE America

Always has been

Because you say so?
Hating American people who like the Confederate flag says "I HATE Americans". That would be you, and if you hate fellow Americans for having differing opinions then you would LOVE tyranny-as long as you were the tyrant or he shared all your idiotic opinions. Real Americans hate tyranny (opinion).

How else can you describe the Confederate Flag?

It was a flag to denote that those states HATE America and do not want to be part of it. Why would you celebrate that?


More disturbing, it is used to symbolize....We HATE Blacks and want them subjugated

No it is NOT any of those things dumb ass, Learn a little history.

What history do you believe?

That flag NEVER honored America
It HAS honored the KKK

I never said it honored the United States but it DOES represent the beliefs and feelings of 11 States that are PART of the US.