The Hostess-Twinkie who did what to kill it/them thread

[JoeB131]

18,000 unemployed Americans damn good job unions all hail to the unions.

The company was in serious trouble before the union chose to strike.

So, if a company is in serious trouble, then that's when a union chooses to strike.








Am I the only one that sees anything suspciously stupid about this strategy....

Because they were being asked to make unreasonable concessions.

It wasn't like they were asking for higher pay. They were asking their pay not be cut.

And the management already proved it couldn't be trusted to make good decisions even if they made concessions.

 

[percysunshine]

The Teamsters have more people than the Bakers, but the Bakers have ovens.

It will probably be an even match.

 

[Unkotare]

So you do not own any Hostess stock. You don't work there, No skin in the game.

JoeBarfly.

Other than being a working guy who doesn't like seeing other working guys get screwed by rich douchebags, nope.

He wants to play 'workers of the world unite!' online, but he lacks the courage of his convictions (or anything else).

He's a faceless nobody, and he seems to think that if he makes an irrational peep here he might actually convince himself that he exists.

 

[MikeK]

Really,
RTW states do have slightly lower average wages than non– RTW states, but they are located primarily in the South, which is less developed than the North and still has a lower cost of living.

Research controlling for this shows RTW states have, if anything, slightly higher wages
and little impact on wages (Robert Reed, “How Right-To-Work Laws Affect Wages,”)


Besides,
They save on dues

The only reason employers in Right-To-Work states maintain a living wage standard is they know what will happen if they don't. But if you choose to believe they do it because of an innate sense of fairness and benevolence, I will leave you in that state of happy delusion.

 

[Mr. H.]

 

[Stephanie]

The media is the one cranking out the misinformation..

what is it their business why hostess went out of business?

yet Cbs runs this article by a Union BOSS blaming it on Bain, Republicans, vultures and blaa blaa

Why didn't Union Boss TRUMPA start his own company and put all these workers to work? No they expect Other BUSINESSES to do all those thing FOR THEM..

Cbs is horrible for this propaganda, and you people talk about Fox news

 

[Ravi]

Corporations that blame their employees for the corporation's inability to sustain a business plan are ridiculous.

That republicans eat that shit up is a shame.

 

[Stephanie]

Corporations that blame their employees for the corporation's inability to sustain a business plan are ridiculous.

That republicans eat that shit up is a shame.

they didn't blame it on their employees, they blamed it on the UNIONS.
It's not their fault their employees followed the bad advice of Union bosses, now they can PAY FOR it in UNempoyment line instead
And I don't what Republicans have anything to do with any of it

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

There... the truth, fair and balanced. The otherside of the story.




"Union bosses" and "Wall Street vultures" blamed for Hostess' demise - Political Eye - CBS News

Meanwhile the president of the AFL-CIO, Richard Trumka, released a statement calling the closure "a microcosm of what's wrong with America, as Bain-style Wall Street vultures make themselves rich by making America poor." Bain Capital is the asset management company founded by former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney that invested in faltering companies.

"Crony capitalism and consistently poor management drove Hostess into the ground, but its workers are paying the price," he said.

Uh huh...sure, give us some more bull shit stories.

 

[Stephanie]

There... the truth, fair and balanced. The otherside of the story.

from the commie rat Trumka...make me laugh

they have to make some excuse for putting 18.000 PEOPLE out of work

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

A company that makes junk food goes out of business.

Good for America.

I love junk food. It does a body good. Yum. Junk food gives me energy.

 

[ba1614]

The media is the one cranking out the misinformation..

what is it their business why hostess went out of business?

yet Cbs runs this article by a Union BOSS blaming it on Bain, Republicans, vultures and blaa blaa

Why didn't Union Boss TRUMPA start his own company and put all these workers to work? No they expect Other BUSINESSES to do all those thing FOR THEM..

Cbs is horrible for this propaganda, and you people talk about Fox news

Hell, why doesn't the union just buy the hostess brand and show everyone how it can be done?

 

[Stephanie]

The media is the one cranking out the misinformation..

what is it their business why hostess went out of business?

yet Cbs runs this article by a Union BOSS blaming it on Bain, Republicans, vultures and blaa blaa

Why didn't Union Boss TRUMPA start his own company and put all these workers to work? No they expect Other BUSINESSES to do all those thing FOR THEM..

Cbs is horrible for this propaganda, and you people talk about Fox news

Hell, why doesn't the union just buy the hostess brand and show everyone how it can be done?

they need all that money they take from their members to give to DEMOCRAT politicians so they can get all the favored treatment from Government..like GM, and waivers from ObamaCare from their bought and paid for President
You see where Obama just met with them and PROMISED them he would raise taxes on the people? the people in this country are too dumb to see this crap..

 

[Stephanie]

HERE'S the truth...fair and balanced....THE REAL story

SNIP:
Manhandling Hostess, Big Labor Costs 18,500 Workers Their Jobs

Posted 11/16/2012 06:45 PM ET
Politics: Union intransigence and unrealistic expectations at Hostess Brands have forced the bakery to shut its doors permanently and throw 18,500 people out of work. So much for Big Labor caring about the little guy.

A down economy and two restructurings in three years left Hostess, maker of Twinkies and Sno Balls, in dire fiscal straits. The company warned its workers, union and nonunion, to make concessions or everyone would go down in a liquidation.

Instead, one union, the AFL-CIO-affiliated Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International (BCTGM), imagined the company was bluffing and went on strike.

The decision contrasted with the majority of the workers who didn't delude themselves. The Teamsters, hardly pushovers, issued this statement:

"Teamster Hostess members and all Hostess employees should know this is not an empty threat or a negotiating tactic, but the certain outcome if members of the BCTGM continue to strike. This is based on conversations with our financial experts, who, because the Teamsters were involved in the legal process, had access to financial information about the company."

All of it here
Read More At IBD: Big Labor's Foolish Hand On Hostess Costs 18,500 Workers Their Jobs - Investors.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Bakers Union fucked everyone.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Trumka is a complete fucking anti-American scumbag

 

[JoeB131]

Corporations that blame their employees for the corporation's inability to sustain a business plan are ridiculous.

That republicans eat that shit up is a shame.

they didn't blame it on their employees, they blamed it on the UNIONS.
It's not their fault their employees followed the bad advice of Union bosses, now they can PAY FOR it in UNempoyment line instead
And I don't what Republicans have anything to do with any of it

The Republicans were the ones who told big corporations if they want to screw with their workers, the government would turn a blind eye.

Wasn't always this way. Used to be, if a union called a strike for a good reason, the government usually put pressure on the company to settle.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Corporations that blame their employees for the corporation's inability to sustain a business plan are ridiculous.

That republicans eat that shit up is a shame.

Unsustainable union pay and benefits are destroying companies, cities and states -- just like they're supposed to

 

[JoeB131]

So you do not own any Hostess stock. You don't work there, No skin in the game.

JoeBarfly.

Other than being a working guy who doesn't like seeing other working guys get screwed by rich douchebags, nope.

He wants to play 'workers of the world unite!' online, but he lacks the courage of his convictions (or anything else).

He's a faceless nobody, and he seems to think that if he makes an irrational peep here he might actually convince himself that he exists.

And yet your queer ass follows me around all day... hmmmm...

 

[editec]

Yup.

Hostess can no longer compete in the free market so its going to get sold off.

If a repubican were in office we'd hear nothing about this, except perhaps they might explain to us that this is a feature of the

CREATIVE DESTRUCTIVE NATURE OF CAPITALISM

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