The Maturation Of Our President

[shart_attack]

and Rand Paul...so you can bitch no matter what....lol. A disgrace.

Says the guy who is still blaming Bush six years since the former prez left the White House.

No, the real disgrace here is YOU, and everyone like you who can't bring themselves to admit the truth — and that truth is that Obama is quite possibly the worst president with regard to foreign policy whom the US has ever had.

You can say we're whining, bitching and moaning all you want if it makes you feel better, but the truth is cold and unforgiving.

At least most (<— key word, that) of us not in the Obama camp will freely admit when we're wrong.

But you and the majority of your fellow Obama lovers, see: you're like spoiled, entitled temper-tantrum-throwing children who always have to have the last word.

Fuck you.

 

[Vigilante]

the correct policy- again. You chumps go with Cheney lol...

 

[shart_attack]

the correct policy- again. You chumps go with Cheney lol...

Exactly.

In terms of our foreign policy, the US has degenerated into a theatre of the outlandishly absurd: a joke that is no longer respected—and more importantly, feared—by the bad guys of the world.

We are now a novelty act akin to carnival sideshow.

But hey: We sure as shit can dance, can't we?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Funny, but I got the feeling and the distinct impression that Obama has had so little time to politicize the preferred outcome that he is taking this action with as pure a set of motives as I've seen.

Usually he gives off a sense of having an ulterior motive behind every seemingly good thing he does. It's like he does nothing until he has considered how, by tweaking this or that in just the right way, he can turn most every event into one which provides him some unexpected political opportunities or political advantages for him or the Dems.

His attitude in the speech tonite reminded me just a little bit, of a time early in my sales career when I felt I needed a sale so much that I decided to just be as honest and candid with this one particular customer as I could possibly be.

I told her the invoice price so she would know i was taking everything I could off of the price and I was going against the unwrit rules of the game by telling her my bottom line without any dickering.

I was GIVING her the deal of the month and not only did I break the rules to share this info with her, she didn't believe my sincerity!

That's the memory that came to my mind while watching Obama tonite.

He was being straight with us for once and now no one will believe or trust him!

LOLOL

But I shouldn't be laughing.

America needs to get this one right.

There's no fooling around possible.

With all due respect, Mojo...the strategy that Obama proposed tonight is so flawed it's almost comical. He's going to combine airstrikes like we've done in Somalia with arming the very same small group of Syrians that he was saying a month ago, COULDN'T win a fight against ISIS, to fight against ISIS?

Seriously? The whole thing is so absurd it's farce! We've got the best military in the world who would mop the floor with ISIS so fast it wouldn't even be funny but Barry is so obsessed with his whole "no boots on the ground" thing that he's going to give weapons to a group of people who sold one of the American journalists that was beheaded to ISIS and will probably end up either losing those weapons to ISIS or turning them against us if they ever WERE to defeat ISIS!

Then you have to wonder at the intelligence of someone who actually thinks that the fight against Islamic extremists in Somalia is something to "model" a fight after elsewhere! Somalia is even worse than Iraq and Syria!

Barack Obama and his advisers are the most clueless group that the US has EVER had forming foreign policy! They truly are the blind leading the blind!

indeed nothing more then idiotic nonsense

oh and btw he added tonight another 425 boots on the ground

bringing the total over 1600 new no more boots on the ground

 

[Mojo2]

What President?

Presidents should not masturbate anyway.

What if they enjoy it?

 

[Mojo2]

Funny, but I got the feeling and the distinct impression that Obama has had so little time to politicize the preferred outcome that he is taking this action with as pure a set of motives as I've seen.

Usually he gives off a sense of having an ulterior motive behind every seemingly good thing he does. It's like he does nothing until he has considered how, by tweaking this or that in just the right way, he can turn most every event into one which provides him some unexpected political opportunities or political advantages for him or the Dems.

His attitude in the speech tonite reminded me just a little bit, of a time early in my sales career when I felt I needed a sale so much that I decided to just be as honest and candid with this one particular customer as I could possibly be.

I told her the invoice price so she would know i was taking everything I could off of the price and I was going against the unwrit rules of the game by telling her my bottom line without any dickering.

I was GIVING her the deal of the month and not only did I break the rules to share this info with her, she didn't believe my sincerity!

That's the memory that came to my mind while watching Obama tonite.

He was being straight with us for once and now no one will believe or trust him!

LOLOL

But I shouldn't be laughing.

America needs to get this one right.

There's no fooling around possible.

With all due respect, Mojo...the strategy that Obama proposed tonight is so flawed it's almost comical. He's going to combine airstrikes like we've done in Somalia with arming the very same small group of Syrians that he was saying a month ago, COULDN'T win a fight against ISIS, to fight against ISIS?

Seriously? The whole thing is so absurd it's farce! We've got the best military in the world who would mop the floor with ISIS so fast it wouldn't even be funny but Barry is so obsessed with his whole "no boots on the ground" thing that he's going to give weapons to a group of people who sold one of the American journalists that was beheaded to ISIS and will probably end up either losing those weapons to ISIS or turning them against us if they ever WERE to defeat ISIS!

Then you have to wonder at the intelligence of someone who actually thinks that the fight against Islamic extremists in Somalia is something to "model" a fight after elsewhere! Somalia is even worse than Iraq and Syria!

Barack Obama and his advisers are the most clueless group that the US has EVER had forming foreign policy! They truly are the blind leading the blind!

I can't really disagree with what you say. But I have to say this.

You may have noticed my dissatisfaction with Obama's past, his associations and the secrets he's kept locked down. I have had issues with more of his policies and plans because I believe he has the best interests of himself, his cronies and Socialism at heart before he considers what's best for America.

However, this situation has affected Obama.

There's a new dynamic at work now. I sense it.

and Rand Paul...so you can bitch no matter what....lol. A disgrace.

Says the guy who is still blaming Bush six years since the former prez left the White House.

No, the real disgrace here is YOU, and everyone like you who can't bring themselves to admit the truth — and that truth is that Obama is quite possibly the worst president with regard to foreign policy whom the US has ever had.

You can say we're whining, bitching and moaning all you want if it makes you feel better, but the truth is cold and unforgiving.

At least most (<— key word, that) of us not in the Obama camp will freely admit when we're wrong.

But you and the majority of your fellow Obama lovers, see: you're like spoiled, entitled temper-tantrum-throwing children who always have to have the last word.

Fuck you.

Did you catch that, FRANCOHFW?

The "real disgrace here is YOU".

YOU'RE the disgrace.

And ever the cunning linguist, our very own "shart_attack," has given you some important words to live by.

Fuck you.

Hmmmm...yes.

It seems shart_attack has given you a marvelous gift with his sign off to you.

So, please do us all a solid and take his parting words to heart.

Fuck you, FRANCOHFW.

Fuck you, very much.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.

Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.

And I like Jews.

And I like Israel.

So I can't agree with you.

We belong there.

That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,

but doing the least?

 

[teapartysamurai]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

So when Bush does it, he's a "war monger." When Obama does it, he's "maturing."

Liberals have always been such laughable hypocrites.

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[francoHFW]

Those aren't combat boots, dingbats. Unlike Cheney and your other draft dodging chickenhawks, we're teaching people to stand on their own, with our air support. People of all parties will be be blaming Booosh and Reagan for years to come- disasters even worse than the 20% loudmouth, ignorant, brainwashed zombies like YOU.

 

[Stephanie]

It gives me the warm fuzzies knowing we never had a "mature" person in as our President and now we should applaud him for finally maybe growing up some

oh yea

oh we're so screwed

 

[francoHFW]

That's NOT anything but ANOTHER Pub propaganda theme, among hundreds. Obama's maturity, pragmatism, and intelligence have always made your bought off chickenhawk/thieves look like the a-holes/ morons they are. Sorry you miss it on planet Bizarro/hate....

 

[Stephanie]

That's NOT anything but ANOTHER Pub propaganda theme, among hundreds. Obama's maturity, pragmatism, and intelligence have always made your bought off chickenhawk/thieves look like the a-holes/ morons they are. Sorry you miss it on planet Bizarro/hate....

You're a loyal Obama cult member. no one can take that away from you. must suck about now huh?

 

[NYcarbineer]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

So when Bush does it, he's a "war monger." When Obama does it, he's "maturing."

Liberals have always been such laughable hypocrites.

War Mongering President War Criminal Blood On His Hands US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Why don't you tell us whether or not you support the President on this, instead of just bitching from the sidelines?

 

[Oldstyle]

Those aren't combat boots, dingbats. Unlike Cheney and your other draft dodging chickenhawks, we're teaching people to stand on their own, with our air support. People of all parties will be be blaming Booosh and Reagan for years to come- disasters even worse than the 20% loudmouth, ignorant, brainwashed zombies like YOU.

No boots on the ground!!! From now on all US troops in Iraq will either be in hovercrafts or the little two wheeled things cops at the airport use!

 

[Wildman]

What President?

Presidents should not masturbate anyway.

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right on !!!
one of them had an intern have that pleasure and she allowed the splooge to dribble all over her Blue dress.

 

[Jroc]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.

Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.

And I like Jews.

And I like Israel.

So I can't agree with you.

We belong there.

That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,

but doing the least?

Israel fights terrorist every day while you support them ..nutjob

 

[JakeStarkey]

"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
Saying that is the easy part doing it will be the challenge that will require true leadership. If air power and using the free Syrian army the group he mocked and belittled just last month does not get the job done what will he do then? Will he be prepared to do the very thing he has said repeatedly he won't do send in U.S. ground troops? Will he have what it takes to go against his own party, the polls and public opinion on something like that?

If the Turks, Saudi Arabians, and Jordanians put boots on the ground with Allied air operations and logicistics and training, the plan will work.

 

[Oldstyle]

"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
Saying that is the easy part doing it will be the challenge that will require true leadership. If air power and using the free Syrian army the group he mocked and belittled just last month does not get the job done what will he do then? Will he be prepared to do the very thing he has said repeatedly he won't do send in U.S. ground troops? Will he have what it takes to go against his own party, the polls and public opinion on something like that?

If the Turks, Saudi Arabians, and Jordanians put boots on the ground with Allied air operations and logicistics and training, the plan will work.

Yeah, and if aliens from Mars and Pluto join in then ISIS will be routed in record time!!!

Come on Jake! You've got about the same chance of THAT happening as Barry convincing the Turks, the Saudis and the Jordanians to commit ground troops to this plan.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.

Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.

And I like Jews.

And I like Israel.

So I can't agree with you.

We belong there.

That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,

but doing the least?

Israel fights terrorist every day while you support them ..nutjob

Careful.

 

[jon_berzerk]

We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama

So when Bush does it, he's a "war monger." When Obama does it, he's "maturing."

Liberals have always been such laughable hypocrites.

War Mongering President War Criminal Blood On His Hands US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

well said