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Not at all- though mindless Pub obstruction and idiocy could be disappointing, progess is evident to everyone else...Booosh's disaster Maliki is GONE, and so are our combat troops.Kurdish, Iraqi, moderate Syrian rebels, and even Saudi and Qattari ones are taking their place. Many good signs that wouldn't happen under chickenhawk fools Romney and McCain.That's NOT anything but ANOTHER Pub propaganda theme, among hundreds. Obama's maturity, pragmatism, and intelligence have always made your bought off chickenhawk/thieves look like the a-holes/ morons they are. Sorry you miss it on planet Bizarro/hate....
You're a loyal Obama cult member. no one can take that away from you. must suck about now huh?
==========The truth is...he's flailing badly. I think we're about to see a wholesale stampede of Democrats up for reelection, get as far from this President as possible.
- See more at: White House Plan Keep Obama Out of Battleground States - Tea Party NewsObama’s overall favorability is under water — his weekly average is currently 43 percent, according to Gallup — and Democrats are defending seats in places with some of his lowest approval ratings in the nation, including Alaska and Arkansas, as well as in a handful of others, like Louisiana and North Carolina where his support lags.
Not at all- though mindless Pub obstruction and idiocy could be disappointing, progess is evident to everyone else...Booosh's disaster Maliki is GONE, and so are our combat troops.Kurdish, Iraqi, moderate Syrian rebels, and even Saudi and Qattari ones are taking their place. Many good signs that wouldn't happen under chickenhawk fools Romney and McCain.That's NOT anything but ANOTHER Pub propaganda theme, among hundreds. Obama's maturity, pragmatism, and intelligence have always made your bought off chickenhawk/thieves look like the a-holes/ morons they are. Sorry you miss it on planet Bizarro/hate....
You're a loyal Obama cult member. no one can take that away from you. must suck about now huh?
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
teapartysamurai said:So when Bush does it, he's a "war monger." When Obama does it, he's "maturing."
Liberals have always been such laughable hypocrites.
War Mongering President War Criminal Blood On His Hands US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
nycarbineer said:Why don't you tell us whether or not you support the President on this, instead of just bitching from the sidelines?
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
Our observations do not necessarily conflict - a first for us - nor are they mutually exclusive. An American president - even one committed to changing America's course - can find that circumstances (reality) may require the sort of action that appears to repeat the past. In this case Obama recognizes the scope of the IS threat and seems determined to nip it in the bud.
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
nycarbineer said:No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
when sharts attack said:Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.
And I like Jews.
And I like Israel.
So I can't agree with you.
We belong there.
nycarbineer said:That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,
but doing the least?
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
nycarbineer said:No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.
And I like Jews.
And I like Israel.
So I can't agree with you.
We belong there.
Try watching real news sometime. Later.Not at all- though mindless Pub obstruction and idiocy could be disappointing, progess is evident to everyone else...Booosh's disaster Maliki is GONE, and so are our combat troops.Kurdish, Iraqi, moderate Syrian rebels, and even Saudi and Qattari ones are taking their place. Many good signs that wouldn't happen under chickenhawk fools Romney and McCain.That's NOT anything but ANOTHER Pub propaganda theme, among hundreds. Obama's maturity, pragmatism, and intelligence have always made your bought off chickenhawk/thieves look like the a-holes/ morons they are. Sorry you miss it on planet Bizarro/hate....
You're a loyal Obama cult member. no one can take that away from you. must suck about now huh?
Really, Franco? How many Saudi and Qatar boots are on the ground in Iraq right now? It's not surprising that you bought the bullshit that Obama fed us last night. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense understands that the Saudis and Qatar are NOT sending troops to fight ISIS. That's simply Barry being Barry...living in fantasy land instead of the real world!
===============Those aren't combat boots, dingbats. Unlike Cheney and your other draft dodging chickenhawks, we're teaching people to stand on their own, with our air support. People of all parties will be be blaming Booosh and Reagan for years to come- disasters even worse than the 20% loudmouth, ignorant, brainwashed zombies like YOU.
just like a former dimowit president done in Viet Nam, they will "teach" people to stand on their own..., and NEVER fire a shot at the enemy..., yaa, that's right, i got it now. 
you frankie.., you all to hell and never return. ............................. 
frankie
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
nycarbineer said:No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.
And I like Jews.
And I like Israel.
So I can't agree with you.
We belong there.
That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,
but doing the least?
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
So when Bush does it, he's a "war monger." When Obama does it, he's "maturing."
Liberals have always been such laughable hypocrites.
War Mongering President War Criminal Blood On His Hands US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
Don't forget his other dumbass favorite... hater-dupes.Stick with your "Pub dupes" posts, Franco...trying to argue that Obama's foreign policy has been "correct" is a joke!
Those aren't combat boots, dingbats. Unlike Cheney and your other draft dodging chickenhawks, we're teaching people to stand on their own, with our air support. People of all parties will be be blaming Booosh and Reagan for years to come- disasters even worse than the 20% loudmouth, ignorant, brainwashed zombies like YOU.
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
nycarbineer said:No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.
And I like Jews.
And I like Israel.
So I can't agree with you.
We belong there.
That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,
but doing the least?
As with the Iraq War #1 coalition, Israel will explicitly be sidelined unless the Arab World specifically requests Israeli involvement and the chances of that are slim and none (and slim just left town).
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
Our observations do not necessarily conflict - a first for us - nor are they mutually exclusive. An American president - even one committed to changing America's course - can find that circumstances (reality) may require the sort of action that appears to repeat the past. In this case Obama recognizes the scope of the IS threat and seems determined to nip it in the bud.
yeah ok, they SAY better late than NEVER
for crying out loud. he should've done this a hell of lot SOONER. Instead he gives a speech after one our citizens is BEHEADED then goes back to playing his golf game. so really we're sorry if some us don't fall on our knees and see him as "maturing"
Those aren't combat boots, dingbats. Unlike Cheney and your other draft dodging chickenhawks, we're teaching people to stand on their own, with our air support. People of all parties will be be blaming Booosh and Reagan for years to come- disasters even worse than the 20% loudmouth, ignorant, brainwashed zombies like YOU.
I'm not saying we are headed that way but Vietnam started with advisory boots on the ground.
We have seen Obama gradually morph from a leftist determined to change America to a pragmatist who has suppressed his fantasies and perhaps reluctantly embraced reality. ISIS is the straw that ended his dream. He was faced with the fact that you just can't satisfy some people and that they will kill you if you don't kill them. I've seen this happen to idealists, including myself, in the course of my 63 years. Sometimes reality, as miserable as it can often be, is irresistible.
"We will degrade and ultimately destroy, ISIL..." - Obama
nycarbineer said:No, what you're seeing is the all too common ailment that afflicts one president after another - the affliction of feeling the need to involve the US in another needless military adventure while the nations who really ought to be doing the fighting and dying sit in the grandstands.
when sharts attack said:Ordinarily, I would give you a thumbs-up and agree with you: but this particular conflict may hold the fate of the nation of Israel in the balance.
And I like Jews.
And I like Israel.
So I can't agree with you.
We belong there.
nycarbineer said:That's an interesting perspective. How many airstrikes against ISIS do you suppose Israel will be making? Isn't the example of Israel one of the best fits for my post? A nation with the most to lose,
but doing the least?
sayit said:As with the Iraq War #1 coalition, Israel will explicitly be sidelined unless the Arab World specifically requests Israeli involvement and the chances of that are slim and none (and slim just left town).
nycarbineer said:So once again Americans die where Israelis should be dying.
