The Myth of Voter ‘Fraud’ – More Ignorance and Lies From Trump

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”Democrats have largely lost the support of the American people.”

LOLOLOL

That must explain why the Democrat running for president in 2016 got more votes than the Republican— because they lost support of the voters. Must explain too why they just won control of the House.

No support.

Either that — or you have no brain.
Maybe you should take a READING COURSE. I didn't say "they lost support of the voters" YOU said that.

I said "largely lost the support of the American people"

Note how you changed my words from "American people", (which includes only American citizens), to your word > "voters" (which includes American citizens + illegally voting aliens)

And while millions of aliens voted for House Democrats, more AMERICANS vote for Republicans for the Senate. And, more Americans voted for Republicans for governor, as well. (20-16) :biggrin:

Tracking the 2018 Governors Race Results
Did ya think more evidence you’re senile was actually needed? :cuckoo:

You have zero evidence that even one alien voted in the 2018 midterm.
 
‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’
Your moronic OP is what has just FAILED >>

1. Trump is right that when just buying groceries requires an ID, a suitable one (proof of citizenship) should be required for something considerably more important - voting.

2. Actually, there's lots of well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely COMMON, and I DO provide evidence for the type of voter fraud I reference >>

Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

Substantial Numbers of Non-Citizens Vote Illegally in U.S. Elections - Just Facts

Foreign interference: Foreigners voting in our elections

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Steeling-the-Vote-7.11.18.pdf

Lawsuit: 100,000 noncitizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

Oops! 100,000 non-citizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections? - ScienceDirect

DC Circuit court says no proof of citizenship needed to vote

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf

3. Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law is not non-partisan, it is highly leftist. Just look at who it's named after. None other than leftist loon William Brennan who slipping a footnote into Plyler vs Doe in 1985, gave birthright citizenship to kids of illegal aliens.

4. "election researchers and experts" around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections and agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens, must have done insufficient research, and were not as "expert" as they claimed to be. There's plenty of evidence of voter fraud by illegal alien voting, as noted in # 2 of this post.

5. There is only a constitutional right to vote for US citizens.

6. Why talk about Republicans losing elections, when the only thing Democrats have is the US House ? ( and even that not by much).
Lol, Infowars is not considered proof of anything except your gullibility.

The best way to ensure election integrity is to keep republicans out of positions of power.
 
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For all the questionable proof the far right loons have, and despite the hundreds of constitutional experts in this forum, not one successful lawsuit has been won in a court of law, proving wide scale election fraud. I do believe we should have photo ID however.

Don’t forget Trump tried to investigate illegals voting but for some reason democrat run states wouldn’t allow it in their states, that makes me wonder what their hiding .


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Liar, there were Democrat states that refused to comply and Democrat states which did comply AND Republican states which refused and Republican states which complied.

And despite collecting data from the many states which did comply, trump couldn’t find evidence of voter fraud.
 
LOLOL
What a dumbfucking conservative you are. I got only as far as your first link to see how senile you are...

Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

What did voterfraud.org say about Greg Phillips...? They never heard of him before...


See what happens when you rely on InfoWars as a source? They expose you as the raging imbecile you are.
I see what happens when you foolishly cherry pick one link out of 9, and expect to have anyone believe that you refuted them all. This is too stupid to even deserve rebuttal. If they want to "Read More", they should read all 9 of my Post 3 links
I tried to read the first three
Info wars
Conservative review
Washington times
One of the others had "very little reliable data"
It always amuses me how our old white fart socialist benefits sucking lads have admitted cheaters as their moniker.
Eisenhower, john Wayne, another deferment guy
You have to have no life to sort through the reams of right wing garbage.
Problem is, our benefits boys, time is all they have
That senile old fool doesn’t even bother to check what he posts. He merely Googles for events he wants to believe are true and then blindly posts links to the hits he gets. Then shakes his cane at those of us who won’t waste our time with such nonsense.
 
Your first link was to a bullshit article which you clearly didn’t bother to check out. Why should I read links you don’t factcheck??
So you're running scared from 9 links that you won't read, (and have no ability to assess) Well, back in post # 58 I answered why you should read the links, coward.

Now you're just repeating yourself and saying stuff that's already been addressed. What's the matter ? Running out of words ? And you don't have the right to judge anything about the links you haven't read.

As for the first article, all I see you doing is flashing the INVALIDATION CARD at it, without a shred of comment about the CONTENT. You don't seem to do much of that.
 
Dumbfuck, I had valid, legal U.S. documentation to acquire voter’s registration. Not something illegals have.

But since your goal was to avoid answering the question, kudos to you for accomplishing that.
LOL - what the hell does THAT mean ? Stupe, no matter what you have, or what illegals have (or don't have), neither you or they has to produce proof of citizenship to vote, thereby allowing ANYONE IN THE WORLD to vote in US federal elections. Get it ?

Hey, I have a few questions for you.

1. Do you think aliens should be able to vote ?

2. Are you OK with requiring all voters to present proof of citizenship ? (note: it wouldn't cost the govt anything)
 
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Did ya think more evidence you’re senile was actually needed? :cuckoo:

You have zero evidence that even one alien voted in the 2018 midterm.
You're not qualified to judge what evidence I have that aliens voted in any election, because, by your own admission, you have failed to read the evidence presented.

And I doubt if you even have much knowledge of the content of the first link which you only flashed your laughable invalidation card at, thinking that's good enough. LOL - watch out, There could be a quiz coming up here. Then everyone can see how much you don't know. :biggrin:

Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

Substantial Numbers of Non-Citizens Vote Illegally in U.S. Elections - Just Facts

Foreign interference: Foreigners voting in our elections

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Steeling-the-Vote-7.11.18.pdf

Lawsuit: 100,000 noncitizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

Oops! 100,000 non-citizens registered to vote in Pennsylvania

Do non-citizens vote in U.S. elections? - ScienceDirect

DC Circuit court says no proof of citizenship needed to vote

https://publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report_Alien-Invasion-in-Virginia.pdf
 
‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’


Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

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Most states already require ID to vote.

Next whine...?

The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.
 
They only won 16. Republicans won 20. Not getting enough sleep ?

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Lol, Infowars is not considered proof of anything except your gullibility.

The best way to ensure election integrity is to keep republicans out of positions of power.
We all know you Dems love hiding behind your stupid INVALIDATION CARD. Now try commenting on the CONTENT in Infowars article, that you show you don't have the guts to do.

And the other 9 links I posted. You ran from them too ?

As for election integrity, the whole world has seen the Democrats make a shambles out of that.
 
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‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’


Screw you, ID to vote helps insure election integrity, that's reason enough to have it and SCOTUS says it's constitutional. Now if we could just require proof of citizenship to register to vote, we'd be much better off.

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Most states already require ID to vote.

Next whine...?

The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.


The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution?
You mean like a gun? Voting is supposed to be restricted to citizens, how should you prove citizenship?

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‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

‘Trump on Wednesday once again tried to make a case for voter ID laws by using a grocery store analogy, inexplicably claiming shoppers need to show identification to buy cereal.

"The disgrace is that, voter ID. If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID," Trump told the conservative news website The Daily Caller.

The President appeared to be referencing an earlier argument he'd made this summer -- that because photo identification is required for something as basic as purchasing groceries with a check or credit card, it should also be required in order to vote.

[…]

Trump has used other false examples to bolster his argument in favor of voter ID laws.

"The Republicans don't win and that's because of potentially illegal votes, which is what I've been saying for a long time," Trump said in the Daily Caller interview Wednesday.

[…]

However, there is well-established evidence that voter fraud is extremely rare, and the President did not provide evidence for the type of voter fraud he referenced.

For example, stealing someone's identity to vote is less likely than being struck by lightning, as the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law put it.

In addition, election researchers and experts around the country who spoke to CNN ahead of the midterm elections all agreed that there is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud, whether by citizens or noncitizens.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/15/politics/cereal-voter-id-donald-trump/index.html

What Trump doesn’t understand is there is no Constitutional right to buy alcohol or cigarettes – there is a Constitutional right to vote, however.

Consequently, his ridiculous comparison fails, providing further proof of Trump’s ignorance and stupidity.

And Republicans lose elections because a majority of voters reject the Republican candidate who is wrong on the issues, having nothing to do with the myth of voter ‘fraud.’

The Democrats are totally corrupt.
They use voter fraud and ballot fraud to usurp our elections.
They are a threat to everyone's freedoms.
They are the sort of backwards cretins who destroy countries.

 
Lol, Infowars is not considered proof of anything except your gullibility.

The best way to ensure election integrity is to keep republicans out of positions of power.
We all know you Dems love hiding behind your stupid INVALIDATION CARD. Now try commenting on the CONTENT in Infowars article, that you show you don't have the guts to do.

As for election integrity, the whole world has seen the Democrats make a shambles out of that.
Are you nuts? I'm not wasting any time.reading an Infowars article.
 
Liar, there were Democrat states that refused to comply and Democrat states which did comply AND Republican states which refused and Republican states which complied.

And despite collecting data from the many states which did comply, trump couldn’t find evidence of voter fraud.
I found it, and you did too, but you're too chickenshit to face it.
 
That senile old fool doesn’t even bother to check what he posts. He merely Googles for events he wants to believe are true and then blindly posts links to the hits he gets. Then shakes his cane at those of us who won’t waste our time with such nonsense.
HA HA, Look who's talking ? Are you ready to take your Voter Fraud QUIZ, Mr, INVALIDATION CARD ? :badgrin:
 
Are you nuts? I'm not wasting any time.reading an Infowars article.
Damn. You run even faster than Mr INVALIDATION CARD (Faun). Maybe they should sign you 2 up for the Olympics. You call be billed as the gutless duo.

PS - the 2 questions in Post # 87 are for you too. Or will you run from them too ?
 
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The problem here is, should you need ID to have something protected by the Constitution? Really ID could be made prevalent where everyone gets it, most countries have this.

Problem is some people think this is the next step towards a government database of people to be used for bad purposes. And that it's the right demanding this, often makes people worry.
Did all this come to you in a dream ? Gotta admit. You do have creativity.
 
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For all the questionable proof the far right loons have, and despite the hundreds of constitutional experts in this forum, not one successful lawsuit has been won in a court of law, proving wide scale election fraud. I do believe we should have photo ID however.

Agreed.

In 2018, photo ID to vote should be 'well duh'...and I don't much care what the excuses are.

But I also think that the Trump/Trumpbots claims of voter fraud are just more total nonsense.
Why they expect 'normal' people to believe them when they offer ZERO unbiased, factual evidence is laughable.
 
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