The not-so-veiled threat to non-Muslims in Tennessee

[Uncensored2008]

Huh? What's a threat of 'blasphemy' against Islam? Are you saying you're not allowed to criticize Islam in this country?

Ask Nikoula Nikoula....

 

[BecauseIKnow]

What's the point of this thread again?

That the infidels stood up to Islamic domination in Tennessee....

A weird opinion blog by the 'American Thinker' hardly said anything about Islamic domination in Tennessee as you'd like to call it.

I ask again, what's the point of this thread?

 

[Osomir]

Ask Nikoula Nikoula....

Why don't you tell us more about how Muhammad invaded Pakistan. Or about how Shiites hold the Bukhari hadith collection as authoritative.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Have ya'll ever noticed that Muslims and Muslim-sympathizers and apologists and fifth-columnists can go off-topic time-and-again in a variety of threads, but when they grow tired of viewing criticisms of Islam and Muhammed, which is no more of a departure from the OP than some of their own sidebars, they suddenly pull the Off-Topic Card?

Responding to a post of mine making a historical correction concerning Muhammad's military campaigns with "Muhammad had seizures" Is literally not relevant to anything that has been written at any point in this entire thread, let alone the specific post of mine that he was quoting.

I don't mind tangents, but that 'retort" simply doesn't make any sense within the context of anything being discussed. off topic or not.

it makes as much sense to the topic as your tangents into Mohammed's military campaigns...

or even more sense.....since nervous types don't like criticism...

 

[Osomir]

it makes as much sense to the topic as your tangents into Mohammed's military campaigns...

I was responding to a specific post made by another poster that specifically talked about his military campaigns there champ.

or even more sense.....since nervous types don't like criticism...

How is suggesting that he may have had epilepsy a criticism?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

What's the point of this thread again?

That the infidels stood up to Islamic domination in Tennessee....

A weird opinion blog by the 'American Thinker' hardly said anything about Islamic domination in Tennessee as you'd like to call it.

I ask again, what's the point of this thread?

slow down....take your time.....reread past answers.....we allow slow learners here...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

it makes as much sense to the topic as your tangents into Mohammed's military campaigns...

I was responding to a specific post made by another poster that specifically talked about his military campaigns there champ.

or even more sense.....since nervous types don't like criticism...

How is suggesting that he may have had epilepsy a criticism?

i like how you skirt around the real issues.....like the one on the video....

 

[Osomir]

i like how you skirt around the real issues.....like the one on the video....

What issue specifically would you like me to address?

 

[g5000]

1.) Taqiyya offers two basic uses. The better known revolves around dissembling over one's religious identity when in fear of persecution. Such has been the historical usage of taqiyya among Shi'i communities whenever and wherever their Sunni rivals have outnumbered and thus threatened them. Conversely, Sunni Muslims, far from suffering persecution have, whenever capability allowed, waged jihad against the realm of unbelief; and it is here that they have deployed taqiyya—not as dissimulation but as active deceit. In fact, deceit, which is doctrinally grounded in Islam, is often depicted as being equal—sometimes superior—to other universal military virtues, such as courage, fortitude, or self-sacrifice.
How Taqiyya Alters Islam's Rules of War: Defeating Jihadist Terrorism :: Middle East Quarterly

2.) Jews are also a minority religion.....where are the government informational sessions for them....? And so what if you are a 'minority'....freedom of religion is protected under the Constitution yet Obama rolls out the red carpet for Muslims and denigrates Christians...what's with that? And how does Islam treat minority religions like Jews and Christians in their countries....? they kill them.....so why should we be so welcoming to a political/religious/social system that kills others, will not assimilate into our country, that puts Sharia above our Constitution, and treats others with such hatred...? Islam uses 'religion' as a cover for all its other anti-American aspects....it is not simply a 'religion'...

Obama denigrates Christians? Evidence, please.

Did he shit on the Easter eggs or something?

The hostility of President Obama toward Biblical faith and values is without equal from any previous American president.

1. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:

April 2008 – Obama speaks disrespectfully of Christians, saying they “cling to guns or religion” and have an “antipathy to people who aren't like them.” 1


February 2009 – Obama announces plans to revoke conscience protection for health workers who refuse to participate in medical activities that go against their beliefs, and fully implements the plan in February 2011. 2


April 2009 – When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus' name be covered when he is making his speech. 3


May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House. 4


April 2009 – In a deliberate act of disrespect, Obama nominated three pro-abortion ambassadors to the Vatican; of course, the pro-life Vatican rejected all three. 5


October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions. 6


November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law. 7


January 2011 – After a federal law was passed to transfer a WWI Memorial in the Mojave Desert to private ownership, the U. S. Supreme Court ruled that the cross in the memorial could continue to stand, but the Obama administration refused to allow the land to be transferred as required by law, and refused to allow the cross to be re-erected as ordered by the Court. 8


February 2011 – Although he filled posts in the State Department, for more than two years Obama did not fill the post of religious freedom ambassador, an official that works against religious persecution across the world; he filled it only after heavy pressure from the public and from Congress. 9


April 2011 – For the first time in American history, Obama urges passage of a non-discrimination law that does not contain hiring protections for religious groups, forcing religious organizations to hire according to federal mandates without regard to the dictates of their own faith, thus eliminating conscience protection in hiring. 10


August 2011 – The Obama administration releases its new health care rules that override religious conscience protections for medical workers in the areas of abortion and contraception. 11


November 2011 – President Obama opposes inclusion of President Franklin Roosevelt’s famous D-Day Prayer in the WWII Memorial. 12


November 2011 – Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving speech. 13


December 2011 – The Obama administration denigrates other countries' religious beliefs as an obstacle to radical homosexual rights. 14


January 2012 – The Obama administration argues that the First Amendment provides no protection for churches and synagogues in hiring their pastors and rabbis. 15


February 2012 – The Obama administration forgives student loans in exchange for public service, but announces it will no longer forgive student loans if the public service is related to religion. 16


January 2013 – Pastor Louie Giglio is pressured to remove himself from praying at the inauguration after it is discovered he once preached a sermon supporting the Biblical definition of marriage. 17


February 2013 – The Obama Administration announces that the rights of religious conscience for individuals will not be protected under the Affordable Care Act. 18


2. Acts of hostility from the Obama-led military toward people of Biblical faith:

January 2010 – Because of "concerns" raised by the Department of Defense, tiny Bible verse references that had appeared for decades on scopes and gunsights were removed. 19

June 2011 – The Department of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at Houston National Cemetery. 20


August 2011 – The Air Force stops teaching the Just War theory to officers in California because the course is taught by chaplains and is based on a philosophy introduced by St. Augustine in the third century AD – a theory long taught by civilized nations across the world (except now, America). 21


September 2011 – Air Force Chief of Staff prohibits commanders from notifying airmen of programs and services available to them from chaplains. 22


September 2011 – The Army issues guidelines for Walter Reed Medical Center stipulating that “No religious items (i.e. Bibles, reading materials and/or facts) are allowed to be given away or used during a visit.” 23


November 2011 – The Air Force Academy rescinds support for Operation Christmas Child, a program to send holiday gifts to impoverished children across the world, because the program is run by a Christian charity. 24


November 2011 – Even while restricting and disapprobating Christian religious expressions, the Air Force Academy pays $80,000 to add a Stonehenge-like worship center for pagans, druids, witches and Wiccans at the Air Force Academy. 25


February 2012 – The U. S. Military Academy at West Point disinvites three star Army general and decorated war hero Lieutenant General William G. (“Jerry&#8221 Boykin (retired) from speaking at an event because he is an outspoken Christian. 26


February 2012 – The Air Force removes “God” from the patch of Rapid Capabilities Office (the word on the patch was in Latin: Dei). 27


February 2012 – The Army ordered Catholic chaplains not to read a letter to parishioners that their archbishop asked them to read. 28


April 2012 – A checklist for Air Force Inns will no longer include ensuring that a Bible is available in rooms for those who want to use them. 29


May 2012 – The Obama administration opposed legislation to protect the rights of conscience for military chaplains who do not wish to perform same-sex marriages in violation of their strongly-held religious beliefs. 30


June 2012 – Bibles for the American military have been printed in every conflict since the American Revolution, but the Obama Administration revokes the long-standing U. S. policy of allowing military service emblems to be placed on those military Bibles. 31


January 2013 – President Obama announced his opposition to a provision in the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act protecting the rights of conscience for military chaplains. 32


April 2013 – Officials briefing U.S. Army soldiers placed "Evangelical Christianity" and "Catholicism" in a list that also included Al-Qaeda, Muslim Brotherhood, and Hamas as examples of "religious extremism." 33


April 2013 – The U.S. Army directs troops to scratch off and paint over tiny Scripture verse references that for decades had been forged into weapon scopes. 34


April 2013 - The Air Force creates a "religious tolerance" policy but consults only a militant atheist group to do so -- a group whose leader has described military personnel who are religious as 'spiritual rapists' and 'human monsters' 35 and who also says that soldiers who proselytize are guilty of treason and sedition and should be punished to hold back a "tidal wave of fundamentalists." 36


May 2013 - The Pentagon announces that "Air Force members are free to express their personal religious beliefs as long as it does not make others uncomfortable. "Proselytizing (inducing someone to convert to one's faith) goes over that line," 37 affirming if a sharing of faith makes someone feel uncomfortable that it could be a court-marital offense 38 -- the military equivalent of a civil felony.


May 2013 - An Air Force officer was actually made to remove a personal Bible from his own desk because it "might" appear that he was condoning the particular religion to which he belonged. 39


3. Acts of hostility toward Biblical values:

January 2009 – Obama lifts restrictions on U.S. government funding for groups that provide abortion services or counseling abroad, forcing taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations. 40


January 2009 – President Obama’s nominee for deputy secretary of state asserts that American taxpayers are required to pay for abortions and that limits on abortion funding are unconstitutional. 41


March 2009 – The Obama administration shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit. 42


March 2009 – Obama orders taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research. 43


March 2009 – Obama gave $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that promotes abortion and works closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations. 44


May 2009 – The White House budget eliminates all funding for abstinence-only education and replaces it with “comprehensive” sexual education, repeatedly proven to increase teen pregnancies and abortions. 45 He continues the deletion in subsequent budgets. 46


May 2009 – Obama officials assemble a terrorism dictionary calling pro-life advocates violent and charging that they use racism in their “criminal” activities. 47


July 2009 – The Obama administration illegally extends federal benefits to same-sex partners of Foreign Service and Executive Branch employees, in direction violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 48


September 16, 2009 – The Obama administration appoints as EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum, who asserts that society should “not tolerate” any “private beliefs,” including religious beliefs, if they may negatively affect homosexual “equality.” 49


July 2010 – The Obama administration uses federal funds in violation of federal law to get Kenya to change its constitution to include abortion. 50


August 2010 – The Obama administration Cuts funding for 176 abstinence education programs. 51


September 2010 – The Obama administration tells researchers to ignore a judge’s decision striking down federal funding for embryonic stem cell research. 52


February 2011 – Obama directs the Justice Department to stop defending the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 53


March 2011 – The Obama administration refuses to investigate videos showing Planned Parenthood helping alleged sex traffickers get abortions for victimized underage girls. 54


July 2011 – Obama allows homosexuals to serve openly in the military, reversing a policy originally instituted by George Washington in March 1778. 55


September 2011 – The Pentagon directs that military chaplains may perform same-sex marriages at military facilities in violation of the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 56


October 2011 – The Obama administration eliminates federal grants to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops for their extensive programs that aid victims of human trafficking because the Catholic Church is anti-abortion. 57


July 2012 - The Pentagon, for the first time, allows service members to wear their uniforms while marching in a parade - specifically, a gay pride parade in San Diego. 58

4. Acts of preferentialism for Islam:

cont. at WallBuilders - Issues and Articles - America’s Most Biblically-Hostile U. S. President

Many of these are rehashed bullshit. I remember debunking several back when each of them came up individually. But like I always say, the retards maintain their various Lists religiously, even when they have had their asses spanked for parroting so much bullshit.

For example, let's read number 13:

November 2011 – Unlike previous presidents, Obama studiously avoids any religious references in his Thanksgiving speech. 13

Notice not one retard who drinks this piss never bothered to do the most basic of fact checking and reading the proclamation for themselves?

Just how retarded do you have to be to repeat a claim without doing even that simple thing?

Presidential Proclamation -- Thanksgiving Day, 2011 | The White House

When President George Washington proclaimed our country's first Thanksgiving, he praised a generous and knowing God for shepherding our young Republic through its uncertain beginnings. Decades later, President Abraham Lincoln looked to the divine to protect those who had known the worst of civil war, and to restore the Nation "to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquility, and union."

As we gather in our communities and in our homes, around the table or near the hearth, we give thanks to each other and to God for the many kindnesses and comforts that grace our lives. Let us pause to recount the simple gifts that sustain us, and resolve to pay them forward in the year to come.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim Thursday, November 24, 2011, as a National Day of Thanksgiving. I encourage the people of the United States to come together whether in our homes, places of worship, community centers, or any place of fellowship for friends and neighbors to give thanks for all we have received in the past year, to express appreciation to those whose lives enrich our own, and to share our bounty with others.

[MENTION=31362]gallantwarrior[/MENTION] [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]

 

[ScreamingEagle]

i like how you skirt around the real issues.....like the one on the video....

What issue specifically would you like me to address?

blasphemy laws are anti-Constitutional.....agree or disagree....?

 

[g5000]

I can't help but notice how many of the items on that list are Obama's stands against anti-homosexual bigotry.

A surprising (not really) number.

Obama is anti-Christian because he doesn't hate fags like a good Christian does. This is the basic argument.


How funny is it the retards are too stupid to know the Islamists opposes homosexuality as much, if not more so, than these "good" Christians do?

So to say Obama is coddling Muslims and hating Christians, and using protections for gays against discrimination as evidence of that claim is the height of hilarity.
[MENTION=31362]gallantwarrior[/MENTION] [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]

 

[Osomir]

blasphemy laws are anti-Constitutional.....agree or disagree....?

They violate the first amendment and would thus be unconstitutional. I've never advocated them. If both parties think saying something is wrong though they are welcome (with the full consent of both parties) to take it to a third party arbitrator for the creation of a legally binding ruling though.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

blasphemy laws are anti-Constitutional.....agree or disagree....?

They violate the first amendment and would thus be unconstitutional. I've never advocated them. If both parties think saying something is wrong though they are welcome (with the full consent of both parties) to take it to a third party arbitrator for the creation of a legally binding ruling though.

you're full of shit....talk about a two-faced answer....

 

[Kondor3]

'Muslims and Muslim sympathizers'.....

How about Americans?

OK, how about American Muslims and American Muslim sympathizers? Better?

 

[Kondor3]

Have ya'll ever noticed that Muslims and Muslim-sympathizers and apologists and fifth-columnists can go off-topic time-and-again in a variety of threads, but when they grow tired of viewing criticisms of Islam and Muhammed, which is no more of a departure from the OP than some of their own sidebars, they suddenly pull the Off-Topic Card?

Responding to a post of mine making a historical correction concerning Muhammad's military campaigns with "Muhammad had seizures" Is literally not relevant to anything that has been written at any point in this entire thread, let alone the specific post of mine that he was quoting.

I don't mind tangents, but that 'retort" simply doesn't make any sense within the context of anything being discussed. off topic or not.

Yours was merely another in a long, long list of such tactical pronouncements - some accurate, some not, and spoke to the pattern rather than the details of a particular exchange...

 

[Osomir]

blasphemy laws are anti-Constitutional.....agree or disagree....?

They violate the first amendment and would thus be unconstitutional. I've never advocated them. If both parties think saying something is wrong though they are welcome (with the full consent of both parties) to take it to a third party arbitrator for the creation of a legally binding ruling though.

you're full of shit....talk about a two-faced answer....

lol, how is that a two faced answer? What about it do you have a problem with?

 

[g5000]

I wish I had the time to deconstruct the entire list. I really do.

Not that it would do any good. The retards would parrot it anyway. Their goals have nothing to do with the truth.

But anyway....here's another one:

May 2009 – Obama officials assemble a terrorism dictionary calling pro-life advocates violent and charging that they use racism in their “criminal” activities. 47

I want you to note the lack of any qualifiers in this claim implies that Obama considers ALL pro-life advocates to be violent and racist.

I will be kind and say that is very disingenuous, at best. Deliberately misleading.

As usual, they know the retarded parrots won't actually fact check it.


Here's that "terrorism dictionary": Domestic extremism lexicon.

I draw your attention to page 2:

antiabortion extremism

Extremism, ladies and gentlemen. The kind of people who walk into churches and shoot abortionists in the face, or who walk into abortion clinics and start blasting.

Not your average pro-life advocate.

A movement of groups or individuals who are
virulently antiabortion and advocate violence against
providers of abortion-related services, their employees, and
their facilities. Some cite various racist and anti-Semitic
beliefs to justify their criminal activities.

These are people who ADVOCATE VIOLENCE.

See what the people who poured Screaming Eagle a warm cup of piss did there?

Changed "ADVOCATE violence" to "pro-life ADVOCATES".

Classic equivocation. Blatant.


Dumb fuck.

[MENTION=31362]gallantwarrior[/MENTION] [MENTION=30955]Rottweiler[/MENTION]

 

[Osomir]

Yours was merely another in a long, long list of such tactical pronouncements - some accurate, some not, and spoke to the pattern rather than the details of a particular exchange...

Tactical pronouncements? One doesn't need to utilize tactics to disprove / discredit the likes of Mr. Eagle or Uncensored. If you'd care to notice my first post directly gave a point by point comment as to the topic of the OP. Since then I've only responded to whatever it is these other guys come up with. I'm not directing the conversational flow here bud.

 

[Kondor3]

blasphemy laws are anti-Constitutional.....agree or disagree....?

They violate the first amendment and would thus be unconstitutional. I've never advocated them. If both parties think saying something is wrong though they are welcome (with the full consent of both parties) to take it to a third party arbitrator for the creation of a legally binding ruling though.

you're full of shit....talk about a two-faced answer....

Or, rather than a two-faced answer, you got...

1. a straight answer...

2. setting the stage for 3rd-party arbitration (under Sharia, of course)

No. 2 cracks me up every time I see it.

For divorce, for example.

If you're an abused or aggrieved Muslim wife in a setting which allows Sharia as a legitimate alternative law source, and you want a divorce...

In the host country (the UK, the US, whatever) you would not be Constitutionally OBLIGED to seek 3rd-party (Sharia) arbitration...

But there's a damned-good chance that you'd be shunned by your family and community for refusing to do so...

All nicely within the boundaries of the Constitution...

Should we be foolish enough to allow the Islamic version of Canon Law to take root here.

The best time to eliminate a poisonous viper is before it actually hatches.

 

[g5000]

Wow. I guess you just pwned his ass.

I guess now you can see just how wrong you were.


You see, any dumb fuck can copy and paste a cup of piss and drink heartily from it.

It takes a certain degree of intelligence to fact check, analyze, deconstruct, and explain why it is a big cup of piss.

The rubes like yourself and Screaming Eagle find it is just easier to be a copy and paste retard.

[MENTION=31362]gallantwarrior[/MENTION]