The Nuking of Nagasaki: Even More Immoral and Unnecessary than Hiroshima

[gipper]

You’ve made that claim many times. How about showing the rest of us some concrete proof.

I’ve done it multiple times in prior threads. Get informed yourself. I’m too tired of trying to teach you warmongers.

 

[Vegasgiants]

But your post 5615 was about me, right? So you do the same thing.

Dont bring shit there wont be shit

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Except that the bombs didn't end the war. The entry of the USSR into the Pacific War did.

Yeah, it was the tit-for-tat of conventional warfare they were afraid of, not nuclear annihilation...man you will just say anything

 

[Man of Ethics]

The Soviets lost 20 million people fighting the Axis.

We lost 400,000. You tell me who made greater sacrifices to end fascism.

I am Jewish from Russia.

We must remember the great sacrifice Russia made to save the World from Nazis.

 

[Mashmont]

The Soviets lost 20 million people fighting the Axis.

We lost 400,000. You tell me who made greater sacrifices to end fascism.

The Japanese were seeking peace negotiations from Potsdam onward. The sticking point in the negotiations was the status of the Emperor. The Japanese felt that if he was tried as a war criminal, their society would fall apart.

The thing few people talk about was how after the USSR got into it, the US dropped it's insistence on trying Hirohito as a war criminal, which he obviously was. In fact, a massive whitewash was done after the war to make it look like Hirohito was this nice guy who just wanted to study marine biology and those mean old generals tricked him into a war.

How many of those 20 million did Stalin murder himself? The guy was an atheist butcher. Human life meant nothing to him.

 

[shoshi]

Using the bomb was not easy decision for Truman. There were several reasons for it. it was done to end the war quickly.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I’ve done it multiple times in prior threads. Get informed yourself. I’m too tired of trying to teach you warmongers.

No you haven't. You make allegations, or post facto statements.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I am Jewish from Russia.

We must remember the great sacrifice Russia made to save the World from Nazis.

The USSR didn't make ANY sacrifice to "save the world from Nazis" all it did was to defend itself when it's Nazi ALLIES turned on it. The USSR did nothing in WWII that wasn't a direct benefit to the USSR.

 

[gipper]

No you haven't. You make allegations, or post facto statements.

I have well before you showed up. Learn to do a search and you’ll find them. It’s not hard.

 

[AZrailwhale]

I have well before you showed up. Learn to do a search and you’ll find them. It’s not hard.

I've been here since the beginning fo the thread. I haven't seen anything substantive.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I've been here since the beginning fo the thread. I haven't seen anything substantive.

He has not linked to anything substantive ever.

 

[Vegasgiants]

He has not linked to anything substantive ever.

Nor have you

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Nor have you

LOL wrong I linked to an entire list of SOURCE DOCUMENTS about the Japanese offers and Atomic bombs

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The Atomic Bomb and the End of World War II | National Security Archive

To mark the 75th anniversary of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945, the National Security Archive is updating and reposting one of its most popular e-books of the past 25 years.

nsarchive.gwu.edu

Just for you.

 

[Vegasgiants]

I have posted tons of evidence here

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I have posted tons of evidence here

No you havent. My link destroys all the claims that Sweden was an attempt to surrender or that the offer to the Soviets was,

 

[Vegasgiants]

No you havent. My link destroys all the claims that Sweden was an attempt to surrender or that the offer to the Soviets was,

Yes I have and you are flat out lying......again

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes I have and you are flat out lying......again

The offer in Sweden was by non Government sources and when the Big 6 found out about it they sent a telegram to their ambassador to cease and desist as the Government intended to fight to the bitter end. The proposal to the Soviets was to be a ceasefire and return to 41 start lines with no concessions in China. And if they helped sell that Japan would ally with the Soviets against the US. At NO time did the Big 6 EVER make an offer of peace or surrender before Aug 10.

 

[Vegasgiants]

The offer in Sweden was by non Government sources and when the Big 6 found out about it they sent a telegram to their ambassador to cease and desist as the Government intended to fight to the bitter end. The proposal to the Soviets was to be a ceasefire and return to 41 start lines with no concessions in China. And if they helped sell that Japan would ally with the Soviets against the US. At NO time did the Big 6 EVER make an offer of peace or surrender before Aug 10.

You have nothing


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[RetiredGySgt]

You have nothing


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Read the link MORON it is SOURCE Documents from the US and Japanese Governments.