"The Obamacare implosion is worse than you think"

[william the wie]

Payment is not all. Those who pay less will generally get less service.

 

[dblack]

i thought obamacare was basically romneycare?

Same basic thing, yeah. Except that it was the Democrats who signed off on it. Damnedest thing - we elect Democrats and get Republican legislation. We can't win for losing.

Not true at all. The two are completely different.

oh yeah... like night and day.

 

[Spoonman]

So even if you need it you don't like it? I wonder if harry reid thinks they are liars too lol






They're just not into Obamacare—even if they benefit

If you don't need Obamacare, you probably don't like it. But even if you need it, you still probably don't like it—or even care about it.



Obamacare targets lack opinion on law, survey finds

 

[Amelia]

So even if you need it you don't like it? I wonder if harry reid thinks they are liars too lol






They're just not into Obamacare—even if they benefit

If you don't need Obamacare, you probably don't like it. But even if you need it, you still probably don't like it—or even care about it.



Obamacare targets lack opinion on law, survey finds

That's our fault. We were supposed to be willing to say,"Hey, it doesn't matter that Obama and the Democrats raped the democratic process -- we should all get on board now and help him sell this atrocity." Then people would have loved it and would be more patient with the incompetence in the rollout.

So sorry I wasn't willing to do that.

 

[Spoonman]

So even if you need it you don't like it? I wonder if harry reid thinks they are liars too lol






They're just not into Obamacare—even if they benefit

If you don't need Obamacare, you probably don't like it. But even if you need it, you still probably don't like it—or even care about it.



Obamacare targets lack opinion on law, survey finds

That's our fault. We were supposed to be willing to say,"Hey, it doesn't matter that Obama and the Democrats raped the democratic process -- we should all get on board now and help him sell this atrocity." Then people would have loved it and would be more patient with the incompetence in the rollout.

So sorry I wasn't willing to do that.

when the statement is made, we'll just have to pass it to see what it's all about, due dilligence has not been done. obamacare is a perfect example of what happens when government passes legislation without due dilligence. unacceptable. democrats owe the country financial restitution

 

[Jroc]

For lawmakers, an O-Care escape option

This year, members of Congress and thousands of their staffers are finally signing up for health insurance provided by an ObamaCare exchange, fulfilling their commitment to live under the same system that millions of other Americans will use.

But unlike those millions of Americans, members and staff have a way to opt out of ObamaCare — retirement.

Under a rule issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) late last year, members and staff who retire will be able to revert back to health coverage under the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program (FEHBP). That's the same coverage thousands of other federal workers can use when they retire.

The FEHBP lets government retirees choose from a range of options, including health savings accounts, PPOs or HMOs. And none of it has anything to do with ObamaCare.

The OPM had not included a retirement escape clause in its August draft of the rule on congressional coverage. But this flexibility was added in its Oct. 2 final rule, after "numerous commenters" called on the OPM to reconsider.


The OPM ultimately agreed with those commenters and said that, when read closely, the law only applies to members and staff "while they are employed in those positions."

A Feb. 18 report from the Congressional Research Service (CRS) puts it plainly. "[T]he final rule allows members and designated congressional staff who are eligible for retirement to enroll in a FEHBP plan upon retirement," the CRS summarized.

For lawmakers, an O-Care escape option | TheHill

 

[william the wie]

This does not surprise me.

 

[Jroc]

March 03, 2014, 08:53 pm
New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems

The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats.

As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements.


Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall.

The cancellations would have created a firestorm for Democratic candidates in the last, crucial weeks before Election Day.

The White House is intent on protecting its allies in the Senate, where Democrats face a battle to keep control of the chamber.

“I don’t see how they could have a bunch of these announcements going out in September,” one consultant in the health insurance industry said. “Not when they’re trying to defend the Senate and keep their losses at a minimum in the House. This is not something to have out there right before the election.”

New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems | TheHill

 

[Zoom-boing]

March 03, 2014, 08:53 pm
New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems

The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats.

As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements.


Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall.

The cancellations would have created a firestorm for Democratic candidates in the last, crucial weeks before Election Day.

The White House is intent on protecting its allies in the Senate, where Democrats face a battle to keep control of the chamber.

“I don’t see how they could have a bunch of these announcements going out in September,” one consultant in the health insurance industry said. “Not when they’re trying to defend the Senate and keep their losses at a minimum in the House. This is not something to have out there right before the election.”

New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems | TheHill

Like no one saw this coming.

They can run but they cannot hide.

 

[jon_berzerk]

March 03, 2014, 08:53 pm
New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems

The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats.

As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements.


Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall.

The cancellations would have created a firestorm for Democratic candidates in the last, crucial weeks before Election Day.

The White House is intent on protecting its allies in the Senate, where Democrats face a battle to keep control of the chamber.

“I don’t see how they could have a bunch of these announcements going out in September,” one consultant in the health insurance industry said. “Not when they’re trying to defend the Senate and keep their losses at a minimum in the House. This is not something to have out there right before the election.”

New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems | TheHill

Like no one saw this coming.

They can run but they cannot hide.

all good points to bring up during the election

 

[Spoonman]

lol and yet another thing that wasn't supposed to happen

The Inevitability of Obamacare for Illegal Aliens

 

[william the wie]

lol and yet another thing that wasn't supposed to happen

The Inevitability of Obamacare for Illegal Aliens

Also in CA the MediCal payments may not be subject to ACA restrictions.

 

[Spoonman]

March 03, 2014, 08:53 pm
New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems

The Obama administration is set to announce another major delay in implementing the Affordable Care Act, easing election pressure on Democrats.

As early as this week, according to two sources, the White House will announce a new directive allowing insurers to continue offering health plans that do not meet ObamaCare’s minimum coverage requirements.


Prolonging the “keep your plan” fix will avoid another wave of health policy cancellations otherwise expected this fall.

The cancellations would have created a firestorm for Democratic candidates in the last, crucial weeks before Election Day.

The White House is intent on protecting its allies in the Senate, where Democrats face a battle to keep control of the chamber.

“I don’t see how they could have a bunch of these announcements going out in September,” one consultant in the health insurance industry said. “Not when they’re trying to defend the Senate and keep their losses at a minimum in the House. This is not something to have out there right before the election.”

New O-Care delay to help midterm Dems | TheHill

well, you know for sure they are sweating the midterms

 

[Amelia]

Didn't they say on Monday that no new delays were in the queue?

Another Obamacare Delay - If you like your plan, you can keep it until 2016

The Obama administration said Wednesday that insurers can wait until 2016 before canceling plans that don't comply with Obamacare.

The administration released a host of final regulations that, among other things, ease reporting requirements for businesses and allow insurers to keep selling individual policies that don't comply with the law's requirements. Those plans, which the White House first un-canceled in November, can now last until 2016 or, in some cases, 2017.

Administration offiials denied any political motivation for the latest delay, although press materials about the changes specifically name-checked Democratic senators who are up for reelection this year and have pushed for Obamacare changes -- including Sens. Mark Warner, Jeanne Shaheen, Mary Landrieu and Mark Udall.

The administration said it won't allow the government to lose money on the law's risk corridors -- a program Republicans have criticized as a "bailout for insurance companies."

The new rules also formalize a delay in next year's open enrollment window, and extend that window by a month. Enrollment will begin Nov. 15 and run through Feb. 15. The delays push the beginning of the enrollment window -- when people will get a look at their premiums -- past the November midterms, and the extended window gives the administration more time to try to bring in more people.

 

[william the wie]

This is getting humorous.

 

[dblack]

Good news! Your abuse will be delayed! Are we lucky to have such compassionate leaders, or what?

 

[Amelia]

It's more like, "Most of the people most affected by this will have found some way to make do by then, so at that point the media will have less interest than ever in covering our abuse of the democratic process and our shameless lying."

 

[Listening]

http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/gmc11674620140305075100.jpg

 

[Spoonman]

Didn't they say on Monday that no new delays were in the queue?

Another Obamacare Delay - If you like your plan, you can keep it until 2016

The Obama administration said Wednesday that insurers can wait until 2016 before canceling plans that don't comply with Obamacare.

The administration released a host of final regulations that, among other things, ease reporting requirements for businesses and allow insurers to keep selling individual policies that don't comply with the law's requirements. Those plans, which the White House first un-canceled in November, can now last until 2016 or, in some cases, 2017.

Administration offiials denied any political motivation for the latest delay, although press materials about the changes specifically name-checked Democratic senators who are up for reelection this year and have pushed for Obamacare changes -- including Sens. Mark Warner, Jeanne Shaheen, Mary Landrieu and Mark Udall.

The administration said it won't allow the government to lose money on the law's risk corridors -- a program Republicans have criticized as a "bailout for insurance companies."

The new rules also formalize a delay in next year's open enrollment window, and extend that window by a month. Enrollment will begin Nov. 15 and run through Feb. 15. The delays push the beginning of the enrollment window -- when people will get a look at their premiums -- past the November midterms, and the extended window gives the administration more time to try to bring in more people.

so what is 2016 like an election year or something. lol

 

[william the wie]

This is getting even more silly.