The Occult...ooooooo

[007]

I've been ghosthunting... and am due to go again in a couple of weeks. I've seen some weird shit that I cannot explain.

Ditto... done a fair amount of ghost hunting myself and have video evidence as well as EVP's that would curl your toes.

I don't consider that occult though. That's just paranormal. Spirits are all around us, all day and all night, pure and simple fact. Some shut it out, some excuse it away, some are just plain afraid to admit there's ghosts amongst us. Someday we're all going to be a ghost. Where you go and what you do after you die is what the study of the paranormal is about.

 

[Lumpy 1]

I've been ghosthunting... and am due to go again in a couple of weeks. I've seen some weird shit that I cannot explain.

Ditto... done a fair amount of ghost hunting myself and have video evidence as well as EVP's that would curl your toes.

I don't consider that occult though. That's just paranormal. Spirits are all around us, all day and all night, pure and simple fact. Some shut it out, some excuse it away, some are just plain afraid to admit there's ghosts amongst us. Someday we're all going to be a ghost. Where you go and what you do after you die is what the study of the paranormal is about.

My mother had a sense for premonitions and my son also.

 

[007]

I've been ghosthunting... and am due to go again in a couple of weeks. I've seen some weird shit that I cannot explain.

Ditto... done a fair amount of ghost hunting myself and have video evidence as well as EVP's that would curl your toes.

I don't consider that occult though. That's just paranormal. Spirits are all around us, all day and all night, pure and simple fact. Some shut it out, some excuse it away, some are just plain afraid to admit there's ghosts amongst us. Someday we're all going to be a ghost. Where you go and what you do after you die is what the study of the paranormal is about.

My mother had a sense for premonitions and my son also.

I think everybody does, but some are just more in tune with it than others. My DIL also will have dreams that come true.

 

[Zoom-boing]

I've been ghosthunting... and am due to go again in a couple of weeks. I've seen some weird shit that I cannot explain.

Details, details!

 

[kwc57]

I do think there's a place for wonder and magic in a child's life or even an adults.. just sayin

I believe that's called an orgasm. just sayin

 

[Lumpy 1]

I do think there's a place for wonder and magic in a child's life or even an adults.. just sayin

I believe that's called an orgasm. just sayin

mmm sounds personal...

 

[Caroljo]

I've never seen anything (like ghosts) but i've heard things once in a while. But for some reason my daughter and 2 oldest sons seem to be more "aware" of things around us. In our old house they swear that my mom came to visit a couple days after she died, they all saw her. One time we were downstairs, my daughter was in her room with the door shut, and we heard a HUGE bang like something big was thrown against her door. She said the door shook....but when we ran up there, there was nothing around that could have done it. That was pretty scary!

It's not that i don't believe in "ghosts", i just have never actually seen any. I also think some of what people think are ghosts could actually also be demons....so i just stick to watching the Ghost hunters on tv...don't ask me to go out looking for them!!!

 

[koshergrl]

Whatever they are, they aren't anything I want to say hello to.

 

[Lumpy 1]

bump in the night

 

[Tsalagi]

I've been ghosthunting... and am due to go again in a couple of weeks. I've seen some weird shit that I cannot explain.

Details, details!

Duhhhhh! He can't explain it!

 

[stars]

I read somewhere that you know who's party was actually a pagan worshipping political party. No naming names, I don't want to get in trouble. I will never be a pagan. However, I love my tarot cards and am an amateur psychic.

 

[stars]

Once there was a really creepy feeling in my room, and my abusive relatives were visiting. My door has no lock that works or anything like that. I existed my room and closed the door. I tried opening it, but it was locked. I kept on pulling and shoving but it wouldn't work. I felt utterly creeped out. My door had the lock taken out of it years ago. Eventually my dad forced it open...there was no one inside, nothing inside...and the lock is still out.

 

[Dabs]

I have had several sessions with tarot cards.
I don't read them myself....I know someone else who does....and every time she has read mine...it has been pretty much spot on.
I find the tarot and similar fascinating.

 

[koshergrl]

I'm not convinced that tarot cards are truly occult...

But who knows.

Our discussion inspired this post.

I'm thinking if your actually asking evil into your life in someway you may get more than you bargained for.. I don't know much about tarot cards, is that part of the process?

Not for me.

For me they're just an artistic application of numbers and symbolism that can be applied accurately to any life in any succession. No matter how the cards lay, they are pertinent to that person at that moment, because they deal with universal concepts.

But.

There's a problem because that is also the way the Bible works. And we understand that the bible works that way because it is the word of God, and imbued with the Spirit...so why would we use anything else, and wouldn't any other tool be suspect?

The bible says it is.

So althought I don't find it frightening and I actually feel close to God when I mess with tarot cards, I'm suspicious of that. I think it's probably trickery meant to lull me into complacency and lead me away from God.

I do love the imagery though, and watching the reactions of people who believe there's something supernatural about it. And people who aren't amenable to scripture go all gaga for tarot.

 

[koshergrl]

What is really fun about tarot is that you can take each card and apply it to a different aspect of your life....it takes imagination and intuition for a good tarot reader to make it pertinent to people, particularly people they don't know..and THAT is what I find fun. I like to tell people about themselves...when I don't know them at all...

 

[Lumpy 1]

I'm not convinced that tarot cards are truly occult...

But who knows.

Our discussion inspired this post.

I'm thinking if your actually asking evil into your life in someway you may get more than you bargained for.. I don't know much about tarot cards, is that part of the process?

Not for me.

For me they're just an artistic application of numbers and symbolism that can be applied accurately to any life in any succession. No matter how the cards lay, they are pertinent to that person at that moment, because they deal with universal concepts.

But.

There's a problem because that is also the way the Bible works. And we understand that the bible works that way because it is the word of God, and imbued with the Spirit...so why would we use anything else, and wouldn't any other tool be suspect?

The bible says it is.

So althought I don't find it frightening and I actually feel close to God when I mess with tarot cards, I'm suspicious of that. I think it's probably trickery meant to lull me into complacency and lead me away from God.

I do love the imagery though, and watching the reactions of people who believe there's something supernatural about it. And people who aren't amenable to scripture go all gaga for tarot.

Well, like I said I'm a novice on this but I do find a bit of a drawing fascination with it.

The cards look cool.......and your conflict with it makes for interesting reading...thanks

 

[koshergrl]

The cards are very cool.

 

[Moonglow]

Personally.. I avoid such things as tarot cards, Ouija Boards, saying phrases that could invite trouble to me but I'm just funny that way...I do like reading up on such things though..

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The Occult: Some
Definitions and Categories

The word "occult" means: "hidden from view; secret; mysterious..." (The Modern University Dictionary). It has been defined in the following ways:

1. secret, hidden except from those with more than ordinary knowledge. 2. involving the supernatural, occult powers. The occult [involves] the world of the supernatural, mystical or magical. (The Oxford American Dictionary).

"A person...who studies or practices any form of the "occult sciences" (such as divination, magick, mysticism, spiritualism, and so forth) is called an "occultist". (Gerina Dunwitch, A-Z of Wicca, p. 95).

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Although many occult groups do tend to share in common elements of secrecy and exclusivism among themselves, it is useful to understand that not all groups which may be classed as "occult" are the same. This article will therefore seek to briefly identify and examine some of the main occult groups in existence today and highlight some of their primary beliefs.

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Paganism - Contrary to popular belief, it must be stressed that Pagans do not worship the Devil*. Indeed, Pagans will normally throw their arms up in horror if a Christian accuses them of Devil worship. Pagans tend to be folk who have a leaning towards nature and seek to harness the power of nature through various magical rites. Some, who may have had nominal Christian upbringings, rather than a life changing experience with Christ, may have become disillusioned with 'established religion' and as a result, have seen Paganism, or Witchcraft, as an attractive alternative. Some of the Pagan groups in existence today include: Druids and Wiccans. Most groups tend to worship a female deity (the goddess) whereas some other male dominated paths will worship a male deity of some description. Wiccan's will normally class themselves as practicing 'white' witchcraft, and say that they do good. However, it must be stressed that white witchcraft can certainly lead a person down the slippery slope towards its black counterpart. The Bible does not draw a line between white or black witchcraft, but simply warns against practicing "witchcraft" (e.g. Deut. 18:9-14; Micha 5:12; Gal. 5:20).

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Spiritualism (Spiritism) - The main practice, and attraction, for many people to the practice of Spiritualism, is the proffessed ability to contact the dead. Many Spiritualists are normally acting out of genuine motives, and feel that they are doing good by helping those who are grieving by putting them in touch with their departed loved ones. Again, as with Pagans, Spiritualists do not worship the Devil*. In fact, many Christians are surprised when they encounter spiritualists who proffess to be Christians themselves. This branch of Spiritualism labels itself "Christian" by meeting in a "Spiritualist Church", singing hymns at their meetings, and having such things as crosses and Bible's on display in the building. However, although some Spiritualist churches are covered in a veneer of Christian trappings, this does not make Spiritualism compatible with the Christian faith. On the contrary, the Bible explicitly forbids attempted contact with the dead (Deuteronomy 18:11). The Bible states that the dead do not have contact with the living (Luke 16:19-31), and that the messages which are meant to come from the dead are actually from deceiving spirit's who are familiar with the departed. Indeed, Isaiah 29:4 calls such a spirit a "familiar spirit" (KJV).

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Satanism - It could well be said that Satanist's fall into three categories:

Dabbler

Theatrical

Professional

Typical of the dabbler Satanist is the the young white male who has become bitter against established religion and authority. Many will be into various rock band's and Gothic groups like Marilyn Manson and Cradle of Filth. This catergory of Satanist will openly confess his or her interest in Satanism with the intent to shock others. Some in this catergory will establish a group of others around themselves. This was the case with the teenage gang "The Trenchcoat Mafia", who held to a brand of Satanism, and sadly took the lives of many other teenagers in their school. However, more often than not, most of those who dabble in Satanism tend to be loners.

There's more at the link.. just sayin...

Definitions and Categories

You left out the mystic occult of the ancient Hebrews.

 

[Moonglow]

I'm not convinced that tarot cards are truly occult...

But who knows.

Our discussion inspired this post.

I'm thinking if your actually asking evil into your life in someway you may get more than you bargained for.. I don't know much about tarot cards, is that part of the process?

Not for me.

For me they're just an artistic application of numbers and symbolism that can be applied accurately to any life in any succession. No matter how the cards lay, they are pertinent to that person at that moment, because they deal with universal concepts.

But.

There's a problem because that is also the way the Bible works. And we understand that the bible works that way because it is the word of God, and imbued with the Spirit...so why would we use anything else, and wouldn't any other tool be suspect?

The bible says it is.

So althought I don't find it frightening and I actually feel close to God when I mess with tarot cards, I'm suspicious of that. I think it's probably trickery meant to lull me into complacency and lead me away from God.

I do love the imagery though, and watching the reactions of people who believe there's something supernatural about it. And people who aren't amenable to scripture go all gaga for tarot.

same here, i never have believed in metaphysical powers.But i do not use the Bible to know that all I have to do is ask, and I will receive and answer from God. Patience is the virtue of understanding there are many thing we do not know and need guidance.

 

[g5000]

I've been ghosthunting... and am due to go again in a couple of weeks. I've seen some weird shit that I cannot explain.

Ditto... done a fair amount of ghost hunting myself and have video evidence as well as EVP's that would curl your toes.

Nope. It wouldn't.