The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[Snookie]

They want to make this about race and will continue to do so. And THAT is a tragedy almost as much as the fact that Trayvon Martin is dead. But I agree that if Trayvon had just walked away and/or went home, he would be alive today. There is hard evidence that over time George Zimmerman reported 38 to 40 of these kinds of 'suspicious persons, black, white, and hispanic,' and in zero cases, until now, was there any kind of altercation or evidence that Zimmerman was threatening or combative in any way.

But we all know that if Martin had been white, this would have gone to a grand jury as it should have. The grand jury almost certainly would have determined self defense and that would have been the end of it. The ONLY reason the grand jury was bypassed and there was a high profile, highly publicized trial was because Martin was black and they wanted Zimmerman to be white. And if that does not keep fanning the fires of racism, I don't know what would.

It makes me sick when I read of property being vandalized or destroyed and people being assaulted and beat up all over the country because a jury returned a credible 'not guilty' verdict. And that we have citizens demanding a pound of flesh and they don't CARE whether somebody is or is not guilty.

There is no justice anymore.

Zimmerman could have waited for the police.

DD explained on the Piers Mrgan interview last night that Travon did not want to go home because Zimmerman might have followed him. DD even thought he may have been a rapist [looking for some nookie, my comment.]

Remember when Zimmerman would not give his address because someone might hear it?

Well there was nothing in DD's original account of that conversation that suggested Trayvon was afraid to go home. She repeatedly last night said that he just wanted to go home. She was convinced Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon and not the other way around.

And where is there ANY evidence from ANYBODY that Zimmerman was not waiting for the police as he said he was doing on the recorded phone conversation with the dispatcher? Of course he didn't want to give out his address on the phone when he had no idea where Trayvon was and not knowing whether he was within earshot.

The fact in evidence is that Trayvon had four long minues to run or walk away. Four minutes. Just sit at your desk and do nothing for four minutes other than imagine how far somebody could go in four minutes at a normal walk, let alone if you were 'hurrying because you were afraid."

There is zero evidence that Zimmerman ever took another step after or toward Martin once the dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon. There was irrefutable evidence that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.

Without ANY evidence to convict on assault or aggravated assault or homicide or murder, the jury returned the only verdict they ethically could return.

What happened for sure that night? None of us know. But wanting Zimmerman to be guilty of murder is simply not sufficient to convict somebody of murder.

That's the whole trouble with this case. There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Nobody believed the ghetto girl.. At least the jury did not because they did not understand her.

Zimmerman would never tell a lie.

I did say that martin was afraid to go home because the creepy cracka was following him and he did not want zimmerman to know where he lived. Martin was protecting his family from a creep in his mind.

17 year old kid against a 29 year old with a locked and loaded gun. What a stretch.

I can never accept that for as long as I live.

Some day maybe the truth will surface.

The jury ws very impressed with the defense cartoon, though.

 

[horselightning]

How about do not follow a teenage boy home and scare him half to death., Don't take the law into your own hands . Let the police handle it. Stay in his truck. I just saw a juror on tv saying the way Georges things were made her decide. What about Trayvon's? My feelings are the same. There was a reason Trayvon poped him in the nose. There was a reason his was disconected from the ear peace and they landed speratly. The whole truth was not told. It was ignored.

Oh, please. If he was scared "half to death" why didn't he hang up with DeeDee and dial 9-1-1?

"That overweight out-of-breath guy scares me half to death, so now that I've run away from him and see that the old fattie can't catch up with me, I'm going to go back and pummel him."


It's very sad that this is the course of action Trayvon decided to follow.

And it's very sad that people want Zimmerman to suffer for life because Trayvon decided to follow that course of action.

You saw the video of Zimmerman talking to the police he was not over weight that night. He was average. That is a pure cop out.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Zimmerman could have waited for the police.

DD explained on the Piers Mrgan interview last night that Travon did not want to go home because Zimmerman might have followed him. DD even thought he may have been a rapist [looking for some nookie, my comment.]

Remember when Zimmerman would not give his address because someone might hear it?

Well there was nothing in DD's original account of that conversation that suggested Trayvon was afraid to go home. She repeatedly last night said that he just wanted to go home. She was convinced Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon and not the other way around.

And where is there ANY evidence from ANYBODY that Zimmerman was not waiting for the police as he said he was doing on the recorded phone conversation with the dispatcher? Of course he didn't want to give out his address on the phone when he had no idea where Trayvon was and not knowing whether he was within earshot.

The fact in evidence is that Trayvon had four long minues to run or walk away. Four minutes. Just sit at your desk and do nothing for four minutes other than imagine how far somebody could go in four minutes at a normal walk, let alone if you were 'hurrying because you were afraid."

There is zero evidence that Zimmerman ever took another step after or toward Martin once the dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon. There was irrefutable evidence that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.

Without ANY evidence to convict on assault or aggravated assault or homicide or murder, the jury returned the only verdict they ethically could return.

What happened for sure that night? None of us know. But wanting Zimmerman to be guilty of murder is simply not sufficient to convict somebody of murder.

That's the whole trouble with this case. There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Nobody believed the ghetto girl.. At least the jury did not because they did not understand her.

Zimmerman would never tell a lie.

I did say that martin was afraid to go home because the creepy cracka was following him and he did not want zimmerman to know where he lived. Martin was protecting his family from a creep in his mind.

17 year old kid against a 29 year old with a locked and loaded gun. What a stretch.

I can never accept that for as long as I live.

Some day maybe the truth will surface.

The jury ws very impressed with the defense cartoon, though.

There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Yeah. There was. Despite their best efforts to foil justice, the persecutors managed to elicit some truth from some of their own witnesses.

But even if there had been no credible evidence from anyone, that only means that there was reasonable doubt. Thanks for that unintended moment of honesty from you, Snoopie.

No wonder GZ was so quickly and neatly acquitted.

 

[wavingrl]

futile to speculate on the jurors.

the HLN panel of Sanford jurors--I think they had 12, could have been 6 --majority said guilty. an Atlanta panel also said guilty. online polls 63% not guilty.

the prosecution and defense agreed upon these jurors. absolute perfection just isn't possible.

my only conclusion--stay out of court.

someone took the time or amazingly could clearly recall what this woman said during voir dire and was displeased at everything about her.

what the motivation might be to follow this case that closely--I can't imagine.

The response to her comments would cause me to keep my mouth shut.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

With those light injuries?

30 times?

In George Zimmerman trial, police investigators take stand - Los Angeles Times

The fact is you ignorant fool is that he doesnt even need to be hit in order to defend himself if he feel he will be killed or if great bodily harm will be done. You race baiters are all the same.

This is why Stand your ground Laws need to be gone. So people do not hide behined them.

The case had exactly nothing to do with "stand your ground."

Such provisions in justification laws are rational and fair.

But they had no applicability to the GZ case.

 

[Zona]

Look for violence this Saturday. Race pimp Al Sharpton is organizing a 100+ city protest for Treyvon this weekend.

Because there is always violence at sharpton rallys? We get it. You want a riot. Good luck with that.

 

[Snookie]

Well there was nothing in DD's original account of that conversation that suggested Trayvon was afraid to go home. She repeatedly last night said that he just wanted to go home. She was convinced Zimmerman assaulted Trayvon and not the other way around.

And where is there ANY evidence from ANYBODY that Zimmerman was not waiting for the police as he said he was doing on the recorded phone conversation with the dispatcher? Of course he didn't want to give out his address on the phone when he had no idea where Trayvon was and not knowing whether he was within earshot.

The fact in evidence is that Trayvon had four long minues to run or walk away. Four minutes. Just sit at your desk and do nothing for four minutes other than imagine how far somebody could go in four minutes at a normal walk, let alone if you were 'hurrying because you were afraid."

There is zero evidence that Zimmerman ever took another step after or toward Martin once the dispatcher told him that they didn't need him to follow Trayvon. There was irrefutable evidence that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when the shot was fired.

Without ANY evidence to convict on assault or aggravated assault or homicide or murder, the jury returned the only verdict they ethically could return.

What happened for sure that night? None of us know. But wanting Zimmerman to be guilty of murder is simply not sufficient to convict somebody of murder.

That's the whole trouble with this case. There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Nobody believed the ghetto girl.. At least the jury did not because they did not understand her.

Zimmerman would never tell a lie.

I did say that martin was afraid to go home because the creepy cracka was following him and he did not want zimmerman to know where he lived. Martin was protecting his family from a creep in his mind.

17 year old kid against a 29 year old with a locked and loaded gun. What a stretch.

I can never accept that for as long as I live.

Some day maybe the truth will surface.

The jury ws very impressed with the defense cartoon, though.

There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Yeah. There was. Despite their best efforts to foil justice, the persecutors managed to elicit some truth from some of their own witnesses.

But even if there had been no credible evidence from anyone, that only means that there was reasonable doubt. Thanks for that unintended moment of honesty from you, Snoopie.

No wonder GZ was so quickly and neatly acquitted.

What truth? The only testimony I heard was conjecture and opinions. Most of it was bought and paid for by the defense.

The juror isgoing to write a book. The kickbox place was advertising that they trained zimmerman.. The cartton was walt disneyiske.

It's white and black. Why not just admit it?

 

[Sunshine]

More than that if you include states which have adopted SYG by judicial decision such as the Federal government ... total about 40, including California

Stand Your Ground Laws & Bills by State | #Occupy at Home

Looks like Stevie is out of a job.

Does this include those that have the 'castle doctrine'?

I don't see Castle Doctrine changing in KY in the foreseeable future.

 

[Amelia]

Oh, please. If he was scared "half to death" why didn't he hang up with DeeDee and dial 9-1-1?

"That overweight out-of-breath guy scares me half to death, so now that I've run away from him and see that the old fattie can't catch up with me, I'm going to go back and pummel him."


It's very sad that this is the course of action Trayvon decided to follow.

And it's very sad that people want Zimmerman to suffer for life because Trayvon decided to follow that course of action.

You saw the video of Zimmerman talking to the police he was not over weight that night. He was average. That is a pure cop out.

He was overweight, out of shape, and out of breath. Martin had run away. Zimmerman had lost him. The dispatcher said he didn't need to follow. Zimmerman said "okay". And Martin came back from where he was clearly safe in order to confront Zimmerman. That's how scared Martin was.

Martin's recklessness and violence led to his own death. Zimmerman is lucky Martin's recklessness and violence didn't lead to Zimmerman's death.

 

[Ernie S.]

Look for violence this Saturday. Race pimp Al Sharpton is organizing a 100+ city protest for Treyvon this weekend.

Because there is always violence at sharpton rallys? We get it. You want a riot. Good luck with that.

The odds are very good that he will set something off in 100 attempts.

 

[Ernie S.]

That's the whole trouble with this case. There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Nobody believed the ghetto girl.. At least the jury did not because they did not understand her.

Zimmerman would never tell a lie.

I did say that martin was afraid to go home because the creepy cracka was following him and he did not want zimmerman to know where he lived. Martin was protecting his family from a creep in his mind.

17 year old kid against a 29 year old with a locked and loaded gun. What a stretch.

I can never accept that for as long as I live.

Some day maybe the truth will surface.

The jury ws very impressed with the defense cartoon, though.

There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Yeah. There was. Despite their best efforts to foil justice, the persecutors managed to elicit some truth from some of their own witnesses.

But even if there had been no credible evidence from anyone, that only means that there was reasonable doubt. Thanks for that unintended moment of honesty from you, Snoopie.

No wonder GZ was so quickly and neatly acquitted.

What truth? The only testimony I heard was conjecture and opinions. Most of it was bought and paid for by the defense.

The juror isgoing to write a book. The kickbox place was advertising that they trained zimmerman.. The cartton was walt disneyiske.

It's white and black. Why not just admit it?

Because it wasn't, idiot!

 

[Snookie]

Be careful of what you wish for. It might just bite you in the ass, sunshine.

 

[Snookie]

There was no credible evidence from anyone.

Yeah. There was. Despite their best efforts to foil justice, the persecutors managed to elicit some truth from some of their own witnesses.

But even if there had been no credible evidence from anyone, that only means that there was reasonable doubt. Thanks for that unintended moment of honesty from you, Snoopie.

No wonder GZ was so quickly and neatly acquitted.

What truth? The only testimony I heard was conjecture and opinions. Most of it was bought and paid for by the defense.

The juror isgoing to write a book. The kickbox place was advertising that they trained zimmerman.. The cartton was walt disneyiske.

It's white and black. Why not just admit it?

Because it wasn't, idiot!

I take great umbrage at being called an idiot.

But, that's how you roll.

 

[FireFly]

Zimmerman is Hispanic & dated a black chick & took her to the prom. Only stupid tools believe the race baiters.

 

[pioneerpete]

Oh, please. If he was scared "half to death" why didn't he hang up with DeeDee and dial 9-1-1?

"That overweight out-of-breath guy scares me half to death, so now that I've run away from him and see that the old fattie can't catch up with me, I'm going to go back and pummel him."


It's very sad that this is the course of action Trayvon decided to follow.

And it's very sad that people want Zimmerman to suffer for life because Trayvon decided to follow that course of action.

You saw the video of Zimmerman talking to the police he was not over weight that night. He was average. That is a pure cop out.

According to the physician's assistant that saw him the day after the incident. Same one you guys want to claim said the injuries wasn't that bad, said his BMI was over 30, which means that he is clinically morbidly obese. Check your facts. So far, they've all been wrong.

 

[horselightning]

Big lesson learned here...Don't bring a fist to a gun fight.

If you're going to engage in violence, be prepared for unpredictable outcomes. All Citizens should seriously consider arming themselves. The Anti-Gun kooks like Piers Morgan and Nancy Pelosi will not be there to protect you and your family if the SHTF for you. Be smart, don't take their advice and stay unarmed and defenseless. It's very easy for them to preach that nonsense. They're well-protected Millionaires with round the clock armed security. All you have is yourself to rely on. So don't count on the preachy Politicians and Police to save you. Get your Conceal/Carry Permit immediately. Don't wait. This country will only become more dangerous. The Collapse is coming. Be prepared and stay safe. See ya.

How about do not follow a teenage boy home and scare him half to death., Don't take the law into your own hands . Let the police handle it. Stay in his truck. I just saw a juror on tv saying the way Georges things were made her decide. What about Trayvon's? My feelings are the same. There was a reason Trayvon poped him in the nose. There was a reason his was disconected from the ear peace and they landed speratly. The whole truth was not told. It was ignored.

Oh, please. If he was scared "half to death" why didn't he hang up with DeeDee and dial 9-1-1?

The first phone call or the last? She called him twice. The first time he cut the phone and apparently assumed he would loose George buy taking the alternate route. The second time when she called him back he did not know when came back he would come across George again buy what the friend said Trayvon was saying he was suprised. I don't think he disconnected because he felt safer having her on the other end of the phone and the situation happend to fast for him too. I never said either party was perfect in this. Matter of fact there is wrong on both side i'm saying there something missing and if prosecution had gotten their story together they new was there , instead of relying on George's inconsitences , we would have got the whole story. That's all.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

What truth? The only testimony I heard was conjecture and opinions. Most of it was bought and paid for by the defense.

The juror isgoing to write a book. The kickbox place was advertising that they trained zimmerman.. The cartton was walt disneyiske.

It's white and black. Why not just admit it?

Because it wasn't, idiot!

I take great umbrage at being called an idiot.

But, that's how you roll.

You fucking abject idiots often fail to have the mental acuity needed to see how fucking idiotic you are.

 

[horselightning]

"That overweight out-of-breath guy scares me half to death, so now that I've run away from him and see that the old fattie can't catch up with me, I'm going to go back and pummel him."


It's very sad that this is the course of action Trayvon decided to follow.

And it's very sad that people want Zimmerman to suffer for life because Trayvon decided to follow that course of action.

You saw the video of Zimmerman talking to the police he was not over weight that night. He was average. That is a pure cop out.

According to the physician's assistant that saw him the day after the incident. Same one you guys want to claim said the injuries wasn't that bad, said his BMI was over 30, which means that he is clinically morbidly obese. Check your facts. So far, they've all been wrong.

He was still not very big . video does not lie. I don't buy the over weight fat guy theroy. sorry.

 

[Mertex]

Why are we still talking about this shit? One thug that got killed as he couldn't control his fucking temper.

We have dozens every day dying in our inner-cities. This is all bull shit.

I'm sure you would like for it to go away - just like you couldn't explain the situation I presented, instead just gave me neg rep because you have no answer. It is obvious to the majority of the country that the verdict was biased and it isn't going to go away, not yet, anyway.

Situation I presented which is being ignored by those who insist that GZ was in the right in defending himself. I wonder why they are ignoring this and why they think GZ was right in defending himself but not this black woman?

Marissa Alexander had never been arrested before she fired a bullet at a wall one day in 2010 to scare off her husband when she felt he was threatening her. Nobody got hurt, but this month a northeast Florida judge was bound by state law to sentence her to 20 years in prison.

Read more: Woman gets 20 years for firing warning shot | Fox News

 

[dilloduck]

Martin's family hired this "engineer" ? Really ? I wonder how .