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The only issue for the shutdown and debt is to kill Obamacare

WTF are you flapping your chicken lips over? That is killing Obamacare. lol

killing obamacare is a noble goal.

In the very near future, when obamacare has made everyone suffer, people will llook to the GOP as heroes, unless they cave of course. Even then many will probably give them credit for trying.

The GOP should proudly own this, imo.
The GOP needs to hold the line...
 
WTF are you flapping your chicken lips over? That is killing Obamacare. lol

killing obamacare is a noble goal.

In the very near future, when obamacare has made everyone suffer, people will llook to the GOP as heroes, unless they cave of course. Even then many will probably give them credit for trying.

The GOP should proudly own this, imo.

there is nowhere to retreat anymore. That is the last barricade. They CAN NOT cave.
 
I can't believe boehner and the Rs have held out this long. I figured they would cave by now. Its good to know they're doing what their constituents want.

Yes, I am surprised as well.
Pressure from the people that see Ocare and what Obama, Reid are doing...and their intent to take us down
has millions alarmed. They need to hold the line.

Anything else that happens bad is on the Heads of Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the Statist, Progressive Democrats...And they WILL take us down for politics sake. Yeah, they're that sleazy.
 
killing obamacare is a noble goal.

In the very near future, when obamacare has made everyone suffer, people will llook to the GOP as heroes, unless they cave of course. Even then many will probably give them credit for trying.

The GOP should proudly own this, imo.

there is nowhere to retreat anymore. That is the last barricade. They CAN NOT cave.
WE can't get behind them...but STAND right in front with them.
 
And there's nothing new about it. Cut the crap about Obama negotiating ... it's all a distraction. It's end Obamacare or they kill the good faith and credit. There is no negotiation in this.

A Crisis Planned for Months

That's why the GOP has put forward 3 different proposals on Obamacare?
Getouttatown!
In pursuit of the following blueprint?

"Blueprint to Defunding Obamacare

"Obamacare’s funding mechanisms are as complicated as the law itself, but they can be stopped through the appropriation process, which includes the upcoming continuing resolution.

"Federally Backed Exchanges. An appropriations rider must eliminate the refundable tax credits for premiums and the cost sharing subsidies that are essentially used to support insurance purchased in the Obamacare exchanges, which starts January 1, 2014.
Medicaid Expansion. An appropriations rider must eliminate the enhance match funding for the Medicaid expansion, which takes effect January 1, 2014.

"Permanent Appropriations. Obamacare contains items called 'permanent appropriations' which guarantee funding for the Community Health Center Fund (CHCF) and Prevention and Public Health Fund (PPHF). An appropriations rider turns off funds for these so-called permanent appropriations, which are already in effect..."

"An appropriations rider must block the implementation of Obamacare, covering salaries, rulemaking, enforcement, etc.

"Life and Religious Liberty. Obamacare is an unprecedented attack on life and religious liberty. An appropriations rider must repeal the HHS mandate that attacks the religious values and principles of countless Americans.

"Miscellaneous Programs. An appropriations rider must block all funding for newly authorized discretionary programs contained in Obamacare and return reauthorized programs back to their pre-Obamacare levels.
Signed..."

Coalition Letter: Congress Must Honor Sequester Savings and Defund ObamaCare Before It Is Too Late | FreedomWorks
 
And there's nothing new about it. Cut the crap about Obama negotiating ... it's all a distraction. It's end Obamacare or they kill the good faith and credit. There is no negotiation in this.

A Crisis Planned for Months


forcing legislation to get their way is nothing new for the Republicans - as exampled by the WMD Iraqi war - it just is not going to work this time around.

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"It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans -- including their cautious leaders -- into cutting off financing for the entire federal government."

This comes as no surprise, of course, that the radical right sought for months to shutdown the government to ‘get rid’ of the ACA was among the worst kept ‘secrets’ in Washington.

Needless to say conservative partisan hacks will continue to deny the truth and facts and ‘blame’ the president.

That's actually a pretty stupid hack post, sorry but there it is ......., a) they almost immediately gave up the defund and went to the ind. mandate and making congress abide by obamacare like the rest of the country (I know, what a horror eh?), b ) they knew they would have the media putting it all on them, if a shutdown occurred, they would have preferred not too.......
 
And there's nothing new about it. Cut the crap about Obama negotiating ... it's all a distraction. It's end Obamacare or they kill the good faith and credit. There is no negotiation in this.

A Crisis Planned for Months


forcing legislation to get their way is nothing new for the Republicans - as exampled by the WMD Iraqi war - it just is not going to work this time around.

.

It's nothing new for either party. You'd know that if you knew ANYTHING about politics.
 
And there's nothing new about it. Cut the crap about Obama negotiating ... it's all a distraction. It's end Obamacare or they kill the good faith and credit. There is no negotiation in this.

A Crisis Planned for Months


forcing legislation to get their way is nothing new for the Republicans - as exampled by the WMD Iraqi war - it just is not going to work this time around.

.

You're such an idiot. How many Democrats voted for the war?
 
And there's nothing new about it. Cut the crap about Obama negotiating ... it's all a distraction. It's end Obamacare or they kill the good faith and credit. There is no negotiation in this.

A Crisis Planned for Months


forcing legislation to get their way is nothing new for the Republicans - as exampled by the WMD Iraqi war - it just is not going to work this time around.

.

It's nothing new for either party. You'd know that if you knew ANYTHING about politics.

winning a vote and passing legislation is the American way - forcing legislation by threatening harm to the country is something entirely new - only radicals will hope for its success.

.
 
"It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans -- including their cautious leaders -- into cutting off financing for the entire federal government."

This comes as no surprise, of course, that the radical right sought for months to shutdown the government to ‘get rid’ of the ACA was among the worst kept ‘secrets’ in Washington.

Needless to say conservative partisan hacks will continue to deny the truth and facts and ‘blame’ the president.

That's actually a pretty stupid hack post, sorry but there it is ......., a) they almost immediately gave up the defund and went to the ind. mandate and making congress abide by obamacare like the rest of the country (I know, what a horror eh?), b ) they knew they would have the media putting it all on them, if a shutdown occurred, they would have preferred not too.......

I quite frankly am glad they made ObamaCare an issue, and are standing firm...and also sending "Buckshot Bills" to the Senate to keep Government going.

It's sending a message the Statists cannot ignore, and lessens the "BLAME" mantra the Statists have adopted. The House is doing our bidding...about time Reid and the Democrats woke up to see the swelling tide of the people against them.

Boehner had it correct..."This is NOT a game..."

These leftist jackwads (YES Obama, REID,I mean YOU) are playing politics with people's LIVES.

Stop it already or suffer what might follow...and YES, it will BE your fault.

Take the jackboots off.
 
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forcing legislation to get their way is nothing new for the Republicans - as exampled by the WMD Iraqi war - it just is not going to work this time around.

.

It's nothing new for either party. You'd know that if you knew ANYTHING about politics.

winning a vote and passing legislation is the American way - forcing legislation by threatening harm to the country is something entirely new - only radicals will hope for its success.

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Apparently you know nothing about politics. I'm not surprised at all.
 
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And there's nothing new about it. Cut the crap about Obama negotiating ... it's all a distraction. It's end Obamacare or they kill the good faith and credit. There is no negotiation in this.

A Crisis Planned for Months
...and the $17 Trillion dollar national debt had nothing to do with it, right? Obama has already spent more than his 43 successors combined and put together, to paraphrase the bears at Disney's Country Jamboree... :eusa_shifty:

U.S. National Debt Clock is ticking away...$16,965,578,000,000.00+
 
This comes as no surprise, of course, that the radical right sought for months to shutdown the government to ‘get rid’ of the ACA was among the worst kept ‘secrets’ in Washington.

Needless to say conservative partisan hacks will continue to deny the truth and facts and ‘blame’ the president.

That's actually a pretty stupid hack post, sorry but there it is ......., a) they almost immediately gave up the defund and went to the ind. mandate and making congress abide by obamacare like the rest of the country (I know, what a horror eh?), b ) they knew they would have the media putting it all on them, if a shutdown occurred, they would have preferred not too.......

I quite frankly am glad they made ObamaCare an issue, and are standing firm...and also sending "Buckshot Bills" to the Senate to keep Government going.

It's sending a message the Statists cannot ignore, and lessens the "BLAME" mantra the Statists have adopted. The House is doing our bidding...about time Reid and the Democrats woke up to see the swelling tide of the people against them.

Boehner had it correct..."This is NOT a game..."

These leftist jackwads (YES Obama, REID,I mean YOU) are playing politics with people's LIVES.

Stop it already or suffer what might follow...and YES, it will BE your fault.

Take the jackboots off.
He can't. He had them stippled on with a small tattoo needle.
 
That's actually a pretty stupid hack post, sorry but there it is ......., a) they almost immediately gave up the defund and went to the ind. mandate and making congress abide by obamacare like the rest of the country (I know, what a horror eh?), b ) they knew they would have the media putting it all on them, if a shutdown occurred, they would have preferred not too.......

I quite frankly am glad they made ObamaCare an issue, and are standing firm...and also sending "Buckshot Bills" to the Senate to keep Government going.

It's sending a message the Statists cannot ignore, and lessens the "BLAME" mantra the Statists have adopted. The House is doing our bidding...about time Reid and the Democrats woke up to see the swelling tide of the people against them.

Boehner had it correct..."This is NOT a game..."

These leftist jackwads (YES Obama, REID,I mean YOU) are playing politics with people's LIVES.

Stop it already or suffer what might follow...and YES, it will BE your fault.

Take the jackboots off.
He can't. He had them stippled on with a small tattoo needle.

Then he has a problem, doesn't he?
 
how does the lunatic left translate a request to suspend the individual mandate for a year to shutting down obamacare? or could at be that libs know with out the individual mandate, no one would buy into it
 
how does the lunatic left translate a request to suspend the individual mandate for a year to shutting down obamacare? or could at be that libs know with out the individual mandate, no one would buy into it
And WHY is Reid and Obama so pigheaded they refuse to compromise that THEY by their own admissions will send US into default and create more chaos?

They have shown whom they are. TYRANTS.
 
how does the lunatic left translate a request to suspend the individual mandate for a year to shutting down obamacare? or could at be that libs know with out the individual mandate, no one would buy into it
And WHY is Reid and Obama so pigheaded they refuse to compromise that THEY by their own admissions will send US into default and create more chaos?

They have shown whom they are. TYRANTS.

because their agenda is more important to them then the country
 
Still waiting for someone to tell me who the debt ceiling is related to obamacare. Of course we all know it isn't but for Democrats, there is no truth other than whatever unsubstantiated nonsense they say.
 

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