The Pagan roots of the catholic church

[Penelope]

For your information, this is not an attack on catholics. It is simply the true history of the catholic church. Make what you will of it. I believe that the catholic church is leading many people astray. You'll see why, after reading this. I do this out love. I believe that the Bible is the sole source of truth. So read this, and compare the catholic teaching to Gods word.

Roman Catholicism -Christian or Pagan?

The RCC teaching is that Mary is the spouse of the HS, and Joseph was her caretaker. Jesus came through her and the way to Jesus is through her, or you can go not go to Mary, but since Mary is the Mother and Spouse of God, you'd be right in giving her the devotion she is due. Not every RC has a devotion to Mary, but as a RC we know how Mary is now the queen of heaven. This is the RCC teaching.

Mary was a sinner. Just like everyone else ever born. The Bible does not contradict that in any way.

God would of never placed his son in a sinner, only in a pure vessel, also The Virgin Mary is a perpetual virgin(meaning Joseph and her never consummated their marriage) . This is the church teaching. Maybe you'd rather the mother of the son of God to of had sexual relations with a God, and then also had sex and other children, so that means Christ has half blood relatives walking around. That would make Mary having two spouses, a bigamist . The Church taught it best, with what they had to work with.

What does your church teach. How do you deal with the virgin birth?

My church teaches what's in the Bible.

Like what, how do you explain the virgin birth to teens.

 

[Iceweasel]

My church teaches what's in the Bible.

That must be why there are so many denominations. It's all crystal clear with no wiggle room for interpretation.

lol

 

[HaShev]

The same way they describe Santa Claus,
the Easter Bunny and the check is in the mail.

 

[hobelim]

>>>>I see no reason not to honor and respect Mary as the mother of Jesus.

The fact that you claimed your Christ was the one in Pilates era who's brother was James should be the reason since the Mary character is from 100bc, not the AD era.

You don't seem to understand , still.

In the story of the boy who cried wolf there is no way to identify the main character. Nothing is known about him, where he lived, what language he spoke, or when he was born. There is no archeological evidence, no historical record or proof that he ever existed. Still the story as a teaching tool conveys truth.

In the same way no one knows when Jesus was born, how he was born, whether his mother was raped by a roman centurion or a Temple priest who, at the time, used to assume the names of angels., like Gabriel, and, like you, believed they were of a holy lineage and had a religious duty to diddle a virgin..

What matters is the teaching, the truth conveyed.

What you see is what you get..

If you don't look for it, you will never find it.

 

[HaShev]

But then you just gave reasons not to honor Mary. John of Patmos called them the Harlot church for a reason. Why would he be disrespectful to the mother of his Christ unless it's the mother of a competing Christ.

 

[hobelim]

But then you just gave reasons not to honor Mary. John of Patmos called them the Harlot church for a reason. Why would he be disrespectful to the mother of his Christ unless it's the mother of a competing Christ.

The harlot church has nothing whatever to do with the mother of Jesus. The Church is metaphorically called the bride of Christ, considered by John of Patmos a harlot for fornicating with every godless religion out there.

Why would Jesus himself effectively disown his mother and family for trying to take charge of him because people were saying that he was out of his mind? What does it matter?

How would that diminish in any way her deserving to be honored and respected for being chosen by God to be the mother of his Messiah?

 

[Penelope]

But then you just gave reasons not to honor Mary. John of Patmos called them the Harlot church for a reason. Why would he be disrespectful to the mother of his Christ unless it's the mother of a competing Christ.

Christian Rome, the RCC nor the Vatican existed in the day of John.

 

[HaShev]

>>>>fornicating with every godless religion out there.

Many reasons for the term harlot church
1) slept with many nations even evil dictators and yes every cultures religion and cult, however you fall into a trap here since that includes every christ figure and mythical savior figure. You slaped yourself again.
2)used the son of the Harlot Mary as their main mask, since he was half Roman and they could blame the Jewish elect thus displacing and deflecting their blame for the other 2 christs.
3)they placed the figure through all the Harlots of the Bible probably on purpose cause they are mocking the Jews by trying to get them to worship something adversary to their faith.
now to answer
Penelope:
true The cults of Hanotzrim, Nazarene, Yehudites existed but not yet the combined blanket term Christians, however Rome was being described as forming that one world religion around 70ad even before Constantine.
Probably with taking over Mithraic churches and perhaps its that set up Temple to Juno he's describing when they did to the Veiins what they later did to the Jews. This is a past behavior of Rome to claim itself the new authority of a religion of a culture they conquered & subverted.

 

[Penelope]

>>>>fornicating with every godless religion out there.

Many reasons for the term harlot church
1) slept with many nations even evil dictators and yes every cultures religion and cult, however you fall into a trap here since that includes every christ figure and mythical savior figure. You slaped yourself again.
2)used the son of the Harlot Mary as their main mask, since he was half Roman and they could blame the Jewish elect thus displacing and deflecting their blame for the other 2 christs.
3)they placed the figure through all the Harlots of the Bible probably on purpose cause they are mocking the Jews by trying to get them to worship something adversary to their faith.
now to answer
Penelope:
true The cults of Hanotzrim, Nazarene, Yehudites existed but not yet the combined blanket term Christians, however Rome was being described as forming that one world religion around 70ad even before Constantine.
Probably with taking over Mithraic churches and perhaps its that set up Temple to Juno he's describing when they did to the Veiins what they later did to the Jews. This is a past behavior of Rome to claim itself the new authority of a religion of a culture they conquered & subverted.

Yes Rome played Harlot with the jewish sects of the land of Canaan, and tolerated a lot , but they finally had to go and put an end to the fighting of the zealot groups. The zealot jews even killed the non zealot jews. Also there was much fighting between the Samaritans and the Jews. So yes, while Rome tolerated many religions, you just couldn't live in peace. Yous were always fighting everyone and Rome just wanted a peaceful empire. Then you have to revolt again in the 130's, kitos war. So yes pagan Rome did play the harlot and was the largest empire during the end of the first century. All the Jews had to do was hail Caesar once a year and pay taxes. Herods temple wasn't cheap.

 

[Zebra]

For your information, this is not an attack on catholics. It is simply the true history of the catholic church. Make what you will of it. I believe that the catholic church is leading many people astray. You'll see why, after reading this. I do this out love. I believe that the Bible is the sole source of truth. So read this, and compare the catholic teaching to Gods word.

Roman Catholicism -Christian or Pagan?

of course there are also pagan roots .."