The Politics of the "Abortion" Word Games

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

There is no right to an abortion in the Constitution. Calling it "privacy" doesn't change that fact.

There is a right to privacy in the Constitution and you have no right to shove your meddling sanctimonious nose into any woman's uterus without her explicit permission.

Wrong. There's nothing in a woman's uterus that she alone has the power to put there. That means that any baby belongs to more than just the mother. So it isn't so "private" after all.

Well, the baby is created from a man's sperm and a woman's egg, ergo, it "belongs" to both parents. And those two, in their own privacy, have their child.

Thank you. It stands to reason then, that if a child was not created privately by one person, it can't be destroyed by one person either.

 

[Derideo_Te]

When nature designed us, having lots of babies was necessary for the survival of the species.

So now that you think there are enough humans, it's time to start killing them?

Ok.

Psst...nature didn't design us. Nature isn't an entity.

20,000 years ago what was the chance a human baby would survive until age 5?

If you don't think we are a product of nature, take that up with Eyes "BOTH are aware that the behavior in which they are about to engage is that which nature designed for procreation"

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

Oldest cave paintings date back to at least 35,000 years ago.

 

[Derideo_Te]

There is no right to an abortion in the Constitution. Calling it "privacy" doesn't change that fact.

There is a right to privacy in the Constitution and you have no right to shove your meddling sanctimonious nose into any woman's uterus without her explicit permission.

Wrong. There's nothing in a woman's uterus that she alone has the power to put there. That means that any baby belongs to more than just the mother. So it isn't so "private" after all.

Well, the baby is created from a man's sperm and a woman's egg, ergo, it "belongs" to both parents. And those two, in their own privacy, have their child.

Thank you. It stands to reason then, that if a child was not created privately by one person, it can't be destroyed by one person either.

No it doesn't.

 

[Conservative65]

narcissists imagine laws are all about their perceptions of them...

Narcissists are the kind that think it's all about them and without them, things don't get done.

 

[koshergrl]

Well, this thread seems to have everyone going for it: the crazy train, full-speed ahead.

Now that you're here.

 

[Dana7360]

When nature designed us, having lots of babies was necessary for the survival of the species.

So now that you think there are enough humans, it's time to start killing them?

Ok.

Psst...nature didn't design us. Nature isn't an entity.

20,000 years ago what was the chance a human baby would survive until age 5?

If you don't think we are a product of nature, take that up with Eyes "BOTH are aware that the behavior in which they are about to engage is that which nature designed for procreation"

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

Humans have been on this earth for millions of years. New estimates as of 2007 from fossil evidence that humans have been on this earth over 4 million years.

You need to actually accept scientific fact though.

First Humans: Time of Origin Pinned Down

 

[koshergrl]

So now that you think there are enough humans, it's time to start killing them?

Ok.

Psst...nature didn't design us. Nature isn't an entity.

20,000 years ago what was the chance a human baby would survive until age 5?

If you don't think we are a product of nature, take that up with Eyes "BOTH are aware that the behavior in which they are about to engage is that which nature designed for procreation"

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

Humans have been on this earth for millions of years. New estimates as of 2007 from fossil evidence that humans have been on this earth over 4 million years.

You need to actually accept scientific fact though.

First Humans: Time of Origin Pinned Down

Lololol....

 

[Dana7360]

There is no right to an abortion in the Constitution. Calling it "privacy" doesn't change that fact.

There is a right to privacy in the Constitution and you have no right to shove your meddling sanctimonious nose into any woman's uterus without her explicit permission.

Wrong. There's nothing in a woman's uterus that she alone has the power to put there. That means that any baby belongs to more than just the mother. So it isn't so "private" after all.

Well, the baby is created from a man's sperm and a woman's egg, ergo, it "belongs" to both parents. And those two, in their own privacy, have their child.

Thank you. It stands to reason then, that if a child was not created privately by one person, it can't be destroyed by one person either.

That's the way it usually turns out because that male has already turned his back and walked away. If he's found he usually claims that it's not his child and will fight tooth and nail to not have to have anything to do with that child.

I know one man who claimed that his wife had a miscarriage before they broke up and there was no child. Problem was, that was a lie. The woman had to take her 2 year old child with her to court to prove what a liar that man was. He never even once tried to contact that child or be a part of her life in any way. Not even a birthday card. He never sent one penny to help raise his own flesh and blood.

 

[Dana7360]

20,000 years ago what was the chance a human baby would survive until age 5?

If you don't think we are a product of nature, take that up with Eyes "BOTH are aware that the behavior in which they are about to engage is that which nature designed for procreation"

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

Humans have been on this earth for millions of years. New estimates as of 2007 from fossil evidence that humans have been on this earth over 4 million years.

You need to actually accept scientific fact though.

First Humans: Time of Origin Pinned Down

Lololol....

What is so funny about scientific facts?

When you're proven wrong you just laugh. Typical.

 

[Derideo_Te]

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

Humans have been on this earth for millions of years. New estimates as of 2007 from fossil evidence that humans have been on this earth over 4 million years.

You need to actually accept scientific fact though.

First Humans: Time of Origin Pinned Down

Lololol....

What is so funny about scientific facts?

When you're proven wrong you just laugh. Typical.

KG prefers ignorance and superstition to factual knowledge. It is easier to twist to fit into her distorted view of the world.

 

[koshergrl]

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

Humans have been on this earth for millions of years. New estimates as of 2007 from fossil evidence that humans have been on this earth over 4 million years.

You need to actually accept scientific fact though.

First Humans: Time of Origin Pinned Down

Lololol....

What is so funny about scientific facts?

When you're proven wrong you just laugh. Typical.

You didn't prove anything. Not even what you think you *proved*. Because you don't understand what *proof* is, any more than you understand any of the other principles of scientific thought and research.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

If they were so religious, why did they dabble in astrology?


(from Poor Richard's Almanack)

Yes, agrarian cultures tended toward pagan fundamentals... . If it helps, they also used calendars, followed lunar and solar cycles and prayed for rain.

Where's the problem?

Like that "Gaia worship" that religionists are so upset about?

"I hope this [discovery of oxygen] will give some check to the rage of destroying trees that grow near houses, which has accompanied our late improvements in gardening, from an opinion of their being unwholesome. I am certain, from long observation, that there is nothing unhealthy in the air of woods"
-- Benjamin Franklin; letter to Joseph Priestly (1772)

-

So when did Benjamin Franklin propose the EPA?

He travelled through time and met with Nixon in a secret villa...

So in other words you can't prove that Franklin or any of the founders would support a national environmental agency with broad discretionary powers. Got it.

Ben Franklin is dead. As such, he really doesn't have a say.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

When nature designed us, having lots of babies was necessary for the survival of the species.

So now that you think there are enough humans, it's time to start killing them?

Ok.

Psst...nature didn't design us. Nature isn't an entity.

20,000 years ago what was the chance a human baby would survive until age 5?

If you don't think we are a product of nature, take that up with Eyes "BOTH are aware that the behavior in which they are about to engage is that which nature designed for procreation"

What people existed 20,000 years ago?

You can't be serious.

Haven't you ever heard of pre-history cave paintings?

Google it.


Us. Homo Sapiens, at least 50,000 years ago:

Human - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Really? What civilizations existed 20,000 years ago? Where's the archeological evidence of humanity?

You can't be serious.

Are you saying you have never heard of cave paintings going back 40k years?

So, have you ever heard of Google?

 

[Kosh]

Yes, agrarian cultures tended toward pagan fundamentals... . If it helps, they also used calendars, followed lunar and solar cycles and prayed for rain.

Where's the problem?

Like that "Gaia worship" that religionists are so upset about?

"I hope this [discovery of oxygen] will give some check to the rage of destroying trees that grow near houses, which has accompanied our late improvements in gardening, from an opinion of their being unwholesome. I am certain, from long observation, that there is nothing unhealthy in the air of woods"
-- Benjamin Franklin; letter to Joseph Priestly (1772)

-

So when did Benjamin Franklin propose the EPA?

He travelled through time and met with Nixon in a secret villa...

So in other words you can't prove that Franklin or any of the founders would support a national environmental agency with broad discretionary powers. Got it.

Ben Franklin is dead. As such, he really doesn't have a say.

So is Karl Marx, Stalin and Hitler, yet you still worship at their alters.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Like that "Gaia worship" that religionists are so upset about?

"I hope this [discovery of oxygen] will give some check to the rage of destroying trees that grow near houses, which has accompanied our late improvements in gardening, from an opinion of their being unwholesome. I am certain, from long observation, that there is nothing unhealthy in the air of woods"
-- Benjamin Franklin; letter to Joseph Priestly (1772)

-

So when did Benjamin Franklin propose the EPA?

He travelled through time and met with Nixon in a secret villa...

So in other words you can't prove that Franklin or any of the founders would support a national environmental agency with broad discretionary powers. Got it.

Ben Franklin is dead. As such, he really doesn't have a say.

So is Karl Marx, Stalin and Hitler, yet you still worship at their alters.

oh, dear Lord, not that shit again.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

There is no right to an abortion in the Constitution. Calling it "privacy" doesn't change that fact.

There is a right to privacy in the Constitution and you have no right to shove your meddling sanctimonious nose into any woman's uterus without her explicit permission.

Wrong. There's nothing in a woman's uterus that she alone has the power to put there. That means that any baby belongs to more than just the mother. So it isn't so "private" after all.

Well, the baby is created from a man's sperm and a woman's egg, ergo, it "belongs" to both parents. And those two, in their own privacy, have their child.

Thank you. It stands to reason then, that if a child was not created privately by one person, it can't be destroyed by one person either.

No, it does not "stand to reason".

Who makes decisions about YOUR bodily functions?

Is that by committee?

 

[Statistikhengst]

There is no right to an abortion in the Constitution. Calling it "privacy" doesn't change that fact.

There is a right to privacy in the Constitution and you have no right to shove your meddling sanctimonious nose into any woman's uterus without her explicit permission.

Wrong. There's nothing in a woman's uterus that she alone has the power to put there. That means that any baby belongs to more than just the mother. So it isn't so "private" after all.

Well, the baby is created from a man's sperm and a woman's egg, ergo, it "belongs" to both parents. And those two, in their own privacy, have their child.

Thank you. It stands to reason then, that if a child was not created privately by one person, it can't be destroyed by one person either.

No, it does not "stand to reason".

Who makes decisions about YOUR bodily functions?

Is that by committee?

Oy, Gewalt!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Like that "Gaia worship" that religionists are so upset about?

"I hope this [discovery of oxygen] will give some check to the rage of destroying trees that grow near houses, which has accompanied our late improvements in gardening, from an opinion of their being unwholesome. I am certain, from long observation, that there is nothing unhealthy in the air of woods"
-- Benjamin Franklin; letter to Joseph Priestly (1772)

-

So when did Benjamin Franklin propose the EPA?

He travelled through time and met with Nixon in a secret villa...

So in other words you can't prove that Franklin or any of the founders would support a national environmental agency with broad discretionary powers. Got it.

Ben Franklin is dead. As such, he really doesn't have a say.

So is Karl Marx, Stalin and Hitler, yet you still worship at their alters.

Stop saying stupid things and stop trying to derail the thread.

Oh yeah, and stop LYING about me.

Seriously, try actually addressing the topic instead of hiding behind lies.

 

[Kosh]

So when did Benjamin Franklin propose the EPA?

He travelled through time and met with Nixon in a secret villa...

So in other words you can't prove that Franklin or any of the founders would support a national environmental agency with broad discretionary powers. Got it.

Ben Franklin is dead. As such, he really doesn't have a say.

So is Karl Marx, Stalin and Hitler, yet you still worship at their alters.

oh, dear Lord, not that shit again.

And another worshiper chimes in!

 

[Kosh]

So when did Benjamin Franklin propose the EPA?

He travelled through time and met with Nixon in a secret villa...

So in other words you can't prove that Franklin or any of the founders would support a national environmental agency with broad discretionary powers. Got it.

Ben Franklin is dead. As such, he really doesn't have a say.

So is Karl Marx, Stalin and Hitler, yet you still worship at their alters.

Stop saying stupid things and stop trying to derail the thread.

Oh yeah, and stop LYING about me.

Seriously, try actually addressing the topic instead of hiding behind lies.

And the irony impaired far left drones are at again..