Zone1 The Problem Is Guns, And Easy Access To Guns

[bigrebnc1775]

America didn't, the colonies were getting their asses beaten, the French came to their rescue, you clueless Froggy Yank. You're so fucking retarded on your own history. Are you a transgender Democrat?View attachment 775870

There's a statue of one of the colonies savours in Paris. M14 disagrees cos he's a fucking dateless retard too.

The greatest army at the time got it's ass kicked by farmers and. Roughnecks

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dipshit reply.

No your analogy was stupid

 

[skye]

Absolutely true!

 

[Rye Catcher]

There is a solution gun owners have tried to give it. Get rid of gun free zones.

More guns are not a solution. Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

Anyone who violates this Federal Law and is convicted serves 50 years in Prison.

 

[easyt65]

Firearms are now the number one cause of death for children in the United States,

I thought the #1 killer was CCP-created Fentynal smuggled into the US by Mexican Cartels...

Say, what's Biden doing about that?

 

[easyt65]

More guns are not a solution. Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

Anyone who violates this Federal Law and is convicted serves 50 years in Prison.

The US Constitution's 2nd Amendent IS a concealed carry permit, or so some make the argument.

 

[easyt65]

The Problem Is Guns, And Easy Access To Guns​

Let me know when Chicago's new Mayor successfully confiscates all of the ILLEGAL guns in his city and successfully enforces his city's existing laws ... with the remaining cops they have after they defunded police and so many others quit....

 

[2aguy]

America didn't, the colonies were getting their asses beaten, the French came to their rescue, you clueless Froggy Yank. You're so fucking retarded on your own history. Are you a transgender Democrat?View attachment 775870

There's a statue of one of the colonies savours in Paris. M14 disagrees cos he's a fucking dateless retard too.

World War 1....World War 2..... and keeping the peace since the end of the war....and keeping Russia from taking over Europe.....

you had your asses handed to you by the Americans.....and the French..... in the revolutionary war....

that makes you 0 for 3

 

[bigrebnc1775]

More guns are not a solution. Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

Anyone who violates this Federal Law and is convicted serves 50 years in Prison.

Look I agree with you on sever penalties for those who use a gun in a crimes but, leftists DA's let them go (Bragg). The only solution is get rid of gun free zones. Because guns do work .

 

[2aguy]

More guns are not a solution. Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

Anyone who violates this Federal Law and is convicted serves 50 years in Prison.

Easy.....for criminals yea.....normal people can carry a gun if they want to...simce they dont use their guns for crime

If you would just get the democrats to stop releqsing violent gun criminals....you would have what you want

 

[easyt65]

Look I agree with you on sever penalties for those who use a gun in a crimes but, leftists DA's let them go (Bragg). The only solution is get rid of gun free zones. Because guns do work .

If guns didn't work the socialist authoritarian Democrats would not be working so hard to eliminate he 2nd Amendment.

 

[2aguy]

More guns are not a solution. Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

Anyone who violates this Federal Law and is convicted serves 50 years in Prison.

You don't understand anything.....guns in the hands of normal people are a solution...to attempted rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings and mass murder and genocide by out of control, leftist governments.....

And they are not a problem.....

Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.


What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.

Paper...why crime declined in the 90s

https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf
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Over the past few decades, the number of guns in America has increased massively, so much so that there are now more guns than people in the United States. Yet federal crime statistics show that firearm homicides dropped about 40 percent between 1993 and 2018, from 7 per 100,000 people to 4.3 per 100,000 people (for nonfatal crimes involving guns, the decline was 71 percent). Violent crime, including homicides, did spike during the pandemic, and while the most recent data is incomplete, it's clear that gun-related violence remains far below where it was 30 years ago despite more guns than ever being out there.

When it comes to schools, the 2020–21 academic year, the latest for which full data is available, did see the highest number of school shootingswith casualties this century. There are thankfully too few violent deaths to generate statistically significant conclusions, but the long-term trendsshow no increase in homicides or suicides among students, staff, and teachers.

Do 'more guns lead to more deaths'?
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Bureau of Justice statistics...

The rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 persons age 12 or older declined 41% across the 26-year period of 1993 to 2018, from 8.4 to 5.0


homicides per 100,000 (figure 1). During the more recent 5 years from 2014 to 2018, this rate was between 4.0 and 5.2 homicides per 100,000 persons age 12 or older. A total of 150 persons age 11 or younger were victims of firearm homicide in 2018, resulting in a rate of 0.3 homicides per 100,000 persons in this age group (not shown).
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In 2018, there were 470,800 nonfatal firearm victimizations against persons age 12 or older, down 69% from 1.5 million in 1993 (table 2). Data on nonfatal firearm violence in this report are from
the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) and include rape
or sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated assault victimizations against persons age 12 or older in which the offender had, showed, or used a firearm.

https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/tpfv9318.pdf


This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........

Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?

What changed in 2015?

The democrat party did 3 things...

1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.

2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes

3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.

 

[2aguy]

More guns are not a solution. Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

Anyone who violates this Federal Law and is convicted serves 50 years in Prison.

Maybe you can explain this then.....

Why is it if guns are the problem,.....

More white Americans own and carry guns, but murder fewer people.....

Fewer black Americans have guns, but they commit more gun murder

You have to explain that...

And no...you don't get to type "RACISM," in your response...you actually have to explain how your post matches truth, facts and reality....

Racial and ethnic differences in gun deaths among kids are stark. In 2021, 46% of all gun deaths among children and teens involved Black victims, even though only 14% of the U.S. under-18 population that year was Black. Much smaller shares of gun deaths among children and teens in 2021 involved White (32%), Hispanic (17%) and Asian (1%) victims.
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Looked at another way, Black children and teens were roughly five times as likely as their White counterparts to die from gunfire in 2021. There were 11.8 gun deaths per 100,000 Black children and teens that year, compared with 2.3 gun deaths per 100,000 White children and teens. The gun death rate among Hispanic children and teens was also 2.3 deaths per 100,000 in 2021, while it was lower among Asian children and teens (0.9 per 100,000).

There are also major racial and ethnic differences in the types of gun deaths involving children and teens. In 2021, a large majority of gun deaths involving Black children and teens (84%) were homicides, while 9% were suicides. Among White children and teens, by contrast, the majority of gun deaths (66%) were suicides, while a much smaller share (24%) were homicides.

Gun deaths among U.S. children and teens rose 50% in two years​

 

[badbob85037]

No one can never have to much ammo.

Wow someone with some useful information I can believe in.

 

[Shareprofit]

^^^
Lauthing at the implied post hoc fallacy.

What is the fallacy?

 

[Shareprofit]

50 years ago, we had guns easier to get hold of and didn't have these problems. Again, what changed? Not the guns.

AR 15s that can kill dozens of people in seconds. There is a reason guns are banned in civilized countries. You need to get out of your gun culture.

 

[badbob85037]

Maybe it's because the NRA has been tossed from schools and in it's place the movies teach youth to aim holding a pistol sideways. With a rifle it's not aim but spray. When you have to pass laws rather than use common sense to secure a weapon. When adults allow their children to grow up without a clue on handling and safety of firearms. When schools preach the evil of firearms only leading to death and damnation. When politicans are only banning what pose them the biggest threat yet almost null to general population. Liberals who ignore what the truth of death is, governments, more than wars, hunger, cancer and old age. So just disarm, bow down, and do what you are told or you will be killed by old men with more power than they should have.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Lets argue this: No one can legally have in his/her custody outside of his/her home of residence and/or in some cases, their business'.

1) It is undisputed that petitioners Koch and Nash—two ordinary, law-abiding, adult citizens—are part of “the people” whom the Second Amendment protects. See Heller, 554 U. S., at 580. And no party disputes that handguns are weapons “in common use” today for self-defense. See id., at 627. The Court has little difficulty concluding also that the plain text of the Second Amendment protects Koch’s and Nash’s proposed course of conduct—carrying handguns publicly for self-defense. Nothing in the Second Amendment’s text draws a home/public distinction with respect to the right to keep and bear arms, and the definition of “bear” naturally encompasses public carry. Moreover, the Second Amendment guarantees an “individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation,” id., at 592, and confrontation can surely take place outside the home.

New York State Rifle & Pistol Assn., INC. v. BRUEN

www.law.cornell.edu

I'll shorten this for you
"No."
- USSC

 

[M14 Shooter]

What is the fallacy?

Aussie gun laws are the cause of their lower rates of gun-related violence.

 

[M14 Shooter]

AR 15s that can kill dozens of people in seconds.

Most modern firearms can.

There is a reason guns are banned in civilized countries.

Yes.
Irrational fear.

You need to get out of your gun culture.

Because you say so?