The real reason Democrats wont allow children back to school:

[kaz]

I didn't call you white but now that you mention, you are a Karen. I was responding to a person who, I think, does not live in a less affluent urban area. Most people in my State, miss are rural. I think alternate days with cohorts could work. But districts will do as they see fit - UNLIKE WHAT TRUMP DEMANDED.

I live in a poor urban area and this is the plan for school openings.

Jackson Public Schools reopening plan includes virtual, on-site learning

Jackson Public Schools officials announced a reopening plan Thursday that includes online and in-person learning.

www.wapt.com

What a jackass. Google "Karen" because you obviously don't know what it means. You just took the latest buzz insult and tried to jamb it into a conversation by force since you're not clever enough to use it right in typical low content Democrat

 

[kaz]

Trump cultists, good luck with the whole "I DEMAND THAT WE GET TO KILL YOUR CHILDREN!" line. That's going to be real popular with parents.

What they should do is have class and video so the parents that choose not to send their kids to school can watch the teacher at home instead. But I think most parents want their kids back in school because if they don't go, somebody has to stay home and watch them. That's not feasible for most working parents.

True. And Democrats know that. They want to force parents to stay at home so they don't work and help the economy. It's part of their hate filled, anti-American November 3 strategy. It's stick

Many households are check to check families. Government can't support people forever as we are approaching 30 trillion dollars in debt if we don't stop these giveaways. It's a struggle enough for a couple, but how are single parents supposed to stay home if they got called back to work and therefore can't get on unemployment?

If we are to be totally honest, school mostly serves us as a government baby sitter.

Educationally, yes. But it is better for younger kids still to be in socially as well. Certainly to your point it'd be far better for parents to have put them in private schools so they can get a real education as well.

Whether kids need to go back to school in the fall (they do) and what schools they are going to go to are important discussions, but they are separate discussions.

What cracks me up is when leftists say schools are terrible, so they don't need to go back!

I find the leftist stance on this remarkable. I mean, what if we just have to get used to having our kids learn online? Then if it takes us a couple of years before we wipe out this virus, and we opt to keep online schooling, it would mean massive layoffs for teachers as we would no longer have use for many of them. If one teacher can teach 25 kids, why not 250 kids? Why not 500?

On the other side of that coin is the hypocrisy of the right; particularly my favorite cable news network show host, Laura Ingraham. She's constantly telling her audience how kids staying out of school leads to apprehension and depression. How it's mental torture to keep these kids away from their classmates and teachers.

Wait a minute! Before the virus when education came up, people on the right always promoted home schooling. You know, get those kids out of the clutches of those liberal teachers showing kids how to put a condom on a banana, and filling their heads with environmental damage nonsense.

Ray, you ever taught an on-line class? If not, please shut up about how easy it is to teach hundreds of kids.

It's not about the teacher, it's about the kids. Young children don't learn as effectively online as in person. They don't have the concentration or discipline to sit at a computer and interact with a teacher

No they don't, and they don't learn well when younger siblings are disrupting their lesson times either. But you also have to consider the staff. 1/3 of teachers are "at risk" either by dint of their age or due to underlying conditions. So you can't just ignore the health risks to the adults in the schools either.

It still comes down to: GET CONTROL OF THE VIRUS BEFORE OPENING ANYTHING.

No one said otherwise

 

[kaz]

Because it would reveal they hyped COVID to crash the economy and hurt Trump.

Wouldn't that be an embarrassment if they all went back to school and NOTHING BAD HAPPENED!

Wouldn't it be a tragedy if they all went back to school and hundreds of teachers, and children with asthma, and other "pre-existing conditions" got sick. I don't know of ANY parent who is so desperate for their children go back to school that they are prepared risk their children's lives or health to send them back.

CONTROL THE VIRUS. THEN TALK ABOUT RE-OPENING. IT'S NOT JUST THE RIGHT WAY, IT'S THE ONLY WAY.

Another ignorant Canuck who doesn't know that children's death rate is virtually zero and they don't effectively transmit the disease.

You also don't care that children are being harmed by being kept at home, they don't effectively learn on computers in replacement of live instruction and that poor kids may not have computer access at all.

Just another hate filled leftist

Yes and No. Ultimately, the jury is still out because while they think that's the case, they're not 100% sure. And it still doesn't change the fact you can't rule the virus spreading with older children. Not every child who attends school is a first grader.
The point still stands. Lower the virus infection rate, take the necessary precautions and issue the relevant guidelines...and we could get back to something resembling normal..including sending kids back to school.

Older Kids May Transmit COVID-19 as Much as Adults Do, New Evidence Shows

Since the early days of the coronavirus pandemic, scientists and health authorities have often observed that children do not appear to contract and transmit the virus to the same extent as adults.

www.sciencealert.com

Or what we could do is open schools for kids up to high school grades. High school kids can stay home while their parents work and learn online.

The study showed 10 years old and older spread the virus as fast and efficient as adults....

The study on 10 years younger children, is not complete yet... They are not showing as contagious, but believe it could be the younger ones were isolated more... it could be they too are just as infectious....

Pretty much the opposite from what I've heard and read. Any credible link to your claim here?

Older children can spread the coronavirus just like adults, new study says

This new study says young adults can spread COVID-19 rather easily.

www.deseret.com

Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds (Published 2020)

The study of nearly 65,000 people in South Korea suggests that school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.

www.nytimes.com

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Again, all you're arguing is cut off. That younger children are less vulnerable and need to be in school more is still very important and you keep running away from that, just as you're ignoring that poor children are more likely to have no internet access at all

10 and younger....are allegedly less infectious

But I heard a scientist on the news last night that the study on 10 and younger is not complete.... They believe they too can spread it as well, but the reason they had not in the original study group is because they were protected and sheltered more....

So the 10 and younger group needs more studies.

OK, but you're still only arguing one side and ignoring the damage being done to children, particularly poor children. You aren't offering ANY solutions, just criticizing.

And again, the death rate for children of all ages is still virtually zero

Yep.....they don't care about the damage. They care about beating Trump in November.

The solution is:

1. Get the virus under control BEFORE opening anything;

2. Get testing, and contract tracing up to snuff. A testing system that takes two weeks to get results is no testing system at all. Reagents and testing supplies are still in short supply and there is no effective contract tracing set up in most states.

3. Re-opening pursuant to the guidelines, not just rushing to open.

We're all excited where I live. We go to Stage 3 on Friday, with masks being mandated when in closed spaces. Our biggest issue right now is teaching children to wear masks, and learning to carry them with us, although most stores are giving them out at the moment.

My grandkids are having typical kid issues. The kids hate wearing them just as much as the rest of us, but they see their parents modelling wearing the masks, and understand they're now necessary. We have four babies under the age of 3 in our family at the moment, so these little ones don't understand and the almost 3 year old is having no part of it, except he wants to go with the rest of the family. Let's just say it ain't easy, but this little guy is better at wearing his mask than the President of the United States.

It's really amazing how you can hear, "Oh, please, share your wisdom with us about how to run our country!" no matter WHAT the person actually said.

Well put. Dragon is like a gas station owner planning to call the CEO of Exxon to share some of his good ideas with the boss

 

[flacaltenn]

How is it that covid19 has occurred in every other first world country on earth, and the rest of the world got it under control and ended the deaths? Trump isn't smart enough to do it. Enough people in the USA still think that Trump isn't lying, or that the government wouldn't re-open unless it's safe, that the virus continues to rage.

Deaths in US are flat or decreasing in MOST areas.. Hospitalizations not stressing capacities..,. The RAW reported case numbers are a result of more aggressive testing -- which is a GOOD thing..

What's Trump lying about here? The CDC/WHO/All the other authorities blew the projections early on.. Stoked massive fear that YOU'RE still living with.. Told us there would be 2.5 to 4% MORTALITY RATE... As we find out MORE thru testing, they were wrong by at LEAST a factor of 14.. Mortality rate is BELOW 0.16% overall.. Not FAR from the YEAR TO YEAR mortality rate for other flus...

And just a handful of kids under 19 have DIED in the US from it.. Almost ALL of them with serious other medical issues... Protect the chronically sick and elderly.. Kids need to go back to school..

It's their once in a lifetime chance to be on the road to success...

 

[kaz]

It's really amazing how you can hear, "Oh, please, share your wisdom with us about how to run our country!" no matter WHAT the person actually said.

It's a public message board, bitch. People are free to speak their minds, regardless of where they're from. I'm always open to new ideas and learning things from others because I'm not a closed minded, selfish, snot who thinks my shit doesn't stink. YMMV.

I thought you were all for freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. "Freedom" means EVERYONE is free to speak their minds. Even the people YOU don't like.

Gotcha. So you're free to share your stupid ideas, but Cecile is not free to tell you they are stupid ideas. Got it. Wow, that's a stupid idea ...

 

[Dragonlady]

Because it would reveal they hyped COVID to crash the economy and hurt Trump.

No, goofy. It’s because they don’t want their kids to get sick.

Get sick? You mean the one group of people universally acknowledged to have next to a zero chance of even getting the virus?

99% of adults who "get sick" don't even know it unless they get tested and turn out +.

Wrong again asshole. 80% of people who get the virus recover with no problems. 20% are hospitalized. 7% of Americans who test positive DIE.

Those who are hospitalized take months to recover. MONTHS. They’re left with problems with their heart, lungs, kidneys, and vascular systems. We don’t know yet if these people will fully recover, or be left with lifelong problems.

STOP PRETENDING THIS VIRUS IS NOTHING.

 

[Dragonlady]

How is it that covid19 has occurred in every other first world country on earth, and the rest of the world got it under control and ended the deaths? Trump isn't smart enough to do it. Enough people in the USA still think that Trump isn't lying, or that the government wouldn't re-open unless it's safe, that the virus continues to rage.

Deaths in US are flat or decreasing in MOST areas.. Hospitalizations not stressing capacities..,. The RAW reported case numbers are a result of more aggressive testing -- which is a GOOD thing..

What's Trump lying about here? The CDC/WHO/All the other authorities blew the projections early on.. Stoked massive fear that YOU'RE still living with.. Told us there would be 2.5 to 4% MORTALITY RATE... As we find out MORE thru testing, they were wrong by at LEAST a factor of 14.. Mortality rate is BELOW 0.16% overall.. Not FAR from the YEAR TO YEAR mortality rate for other flus...

And just a handful of kids under 19 have DIED in the US from it.. Almost ALL of them with serious other medical issues... Protect the chronically sick and elderly.. Kids need to go back to school..

It's their once in a lifetime chance to be on the road to success...

Everything you posted is false. Daily cases are setting new records. Deaths are RISING again. Hospitals in four states are running out of beds. Staff are running out of PPE.

As for opening schools, THE TEACHERS are at high risk even if the risk to children is not fully known, we know the risks to the adults who work with them.

 

[Dragonlady]

It's really amazing how you can hear, "Oh, please, share your wisdom with us about how to run our country!" no matter WHAT the person actually said.

It's a public message board, bitch. People are free to speak their minds, regardless of where they're from. I'm always open to new ideas and learning things from others because I'm not a closed minded, selfish, snot who thinks my shit doesn't stink. YMMV.

I thought you were all for freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. "Freedom" means EVERYONE is free to speak their minds. Even the people YOU don't like.

Gotcha. So you're free to share your stupid ideas, but Cecile is not free to tell you they are stupid ideas. Got it. Wow, that's a stupid idea ...

Cecile is NOT free to tell me I can’t post or I shouldn’t post. What she thinks of my posts is neither here nor there.

 

[bripat9643]

The solution is:

Get the virus under control BEFORE opening anything

HOW. What if it takes another year! What if doing that plunges the nation and world into another Great Depression?

Get testing, and contract tracing up to snuff.

HOW? Testing costs money, takes resources and materials. Contact tracing of 300 million people would take 1 trillion people. You volunteering?

A testing system that takes two weeks to get results is no testing system at all.

Talk is cheap. Show how to do it ACCURATELY faster.

Re-opening pursuant to the guidelines, not just rushing to open.

Really? Partial reopening after 4 months, or 8X longer than originally thought as the nation is on the verge of collapse is RUSHING things? You obvious have no business, financial, legal or social interest in whether we ever reopen or not.

Wear masks, keep socially distant, practice good hygiene. Most of the rest of the world has figured it out. Why can't we? Let's put this argument to bed shall we?

Three simple acts can stop Covid-19 outbreaks, study finds | CNN

Coronavirus could be stopped if everyone used masks, washed their hands and stayed apart, anew study finds.

www.cnn.com

As far as testing goes, actually invoke the Defense Production Act to get them produced. Since it takes money, resources, and materials.

Money and speed for COVID-19 tests needed to combat 'impending disaster'

"No one wants to wait 26 days for a test result for a highly infectious deadly disease."

www.nbcnews.com

You're 100% correct about testing turnaround time. See the above link.

This country's virus infection rate is spiraling out of control because states opened back up too quickly with no real guidelines and restrictions in place. People got complacent and just went back to business as usual.
And we are just now beginning to see the results from the 4th of July weekend. The longer we wait to take action, the worse it will be. And it takes the economy along with it. A second wave of lockdowns is inevitable
for some states at this point.

Are you calling Americans filthy pigs?

Americans have done everything the fraud Fauci recommended. Your claim that they haven't only shows that you're a douchebag.

The lockdowns are inevitable because Dims are the ones making the decision.

 

[bripat9643]

How is it that covid19 has occurred in every other first world country on earth, and the rest of the world got it under control and ended the deaths? Trump isn't smart enough to do it. Enough people in the USA still think that Trump isn't lying, or that the government wouldn't re-open unless it's safe, that the virus continues to rage.

Deaths in US are flat or decreasing in MOST areas.. Hospitalizations not stressing capacities..,. The RAW reported case numbers are a result of more aggressive testing -- which is a GOOD thing..

What's Trump lying about here? The CDC/WHO/All the other authorities blew the projections early on.. Stoked massive fear that YOU'RE still living with.. Told us there would be 2.5 to 4% MORTALITY RATE... As we find out MORE thru testing, they were wrong by at LEAST a factor of 14.. Mortality rate is BELOW 0.16% overall.. Not FAR from the YEAR TO YEAR mortality rate for other flus...

And just a handful of kids under 19 have DIED in the US from it.. Almost ALL of them with serious other medical issues... Protect the chronically sick and elderly.. Kids need to go back to school..

It's their once in a lifetime chance to be on the road to success...

Everything you posted is false. Daily cases are setting new records. Deaths are RISING again. Hospitals in four states are running out of beds. Staff are running out of PPE.

As for opening schools, THE TEACHERS are at high risk even if the risk to children is not fully known, we know the risks to the adults who work with them.

We had 412 deaths the day before yesterday. That's close to the all-time low since the beginning of March.

 

[bripat9643]

It's really amazing how you can hear, "Oh, please, share your wisdom with us about how to run our country!" no matter WHAT the person actually said.

It's a public message board, bitch. People are free to speak their minds, regardless of where they're from. I'm always open to new ideas and learning things from others because I'm not a closed minded, selfish, snot who thinks my shit doesn't stink. YMMV.

I thought you were all for freedom of speech, and freedom of religion. "Freedom" means EVERYONE is free to speak their minds. Even the people YOU don't like.

Gotcha. So you're free to share your stupid ideas, but Cecile is not free to tell you they are stupid ideas. Got it. Wow, that's a stupid idea ...

Cecile is NOT free to tell me I can’t post or I shouldn’t post. What she thinks of my posts is neither here nor there.

There's no rule against it, so she is free to tell you that.

 

[toobfreak]

Wrong again asshole. 80% of people who get the virus recover with no problems. 20% are hospitalized. 7% of Americans who test positive DIE.

Quit making up your own phony covid figures you crazy canadian assquack.

 

[flacaltenn]

Everything you posted is false. Daily cases are setting new records. Deaths are RISING again. Hospitals in four states are running out of beds. Staff are running out of PPE.

Daily cases DO NOT MATTER.. They are NOT even accurate. As many states are reporting the results from the antibody testing as NEW CASES... Which IS LYING.. Because the Antibody tests could be detecting an infection LAST NOVEMBER... I don't want to discuss "new cases"...

Deaths???

US mortality rate per 100,000 isn't even in the top 10 nations...

HOSPITAL CAPACITIES?? You're comparing filled hospitals in NYC back in May/June when the hospitals were functionally CLOSED to their normal case loads... Cancer patients, heart procedures, orthopedic surgeries WERE NOT HAPPENING.. They are NOW, and the "bed" numbers reflect a more realistic case of actually PRACTICING MEDICINE...

As for the kids ----


Unbiased America’s Kevin Ryan summarized the study as follows:

The study by the University of Dresden tested more than 2,000 schoolchildren and teachers for antibodies since the reopening of schools in Germany in the spring.
The study found no evidence of widespread virus transmission. Antibodies were detected in only twelve of the 2,045 people examined. That’s not much more than at the beginning of the pandemic in March, meaning that very few schoolchildren caught the disease.
Instead of fears that schools would become hotspots for transmission, “It is rather the opposite,” said study director Reinhard Berner, director of the polyclinic for children and adolescent medicine at the Dresden University Hospital. “Children act more like a brake on the infection. Not every infection that reaches them is passed on.”
Antibodies were also not found to be above average in the teachers at the facilities.
Saxony was the first federal state in Germany to restart regular school operations after the lockdown ended in mid-April. The Ministry of Education ordered the school opening to be scientifically studied. A total of around 1,500 students between the ages of 14 and 18, and 500 teachers between the ages of 30 and 66 were examined
Saxony’s Minister of Education said the study shows that the decision was right to reopen schools early, and that schools should continue as normal in the fall, even if the overall infection rate should increase again.
“The right of children and adolescents to education and participation and equal opportunities must not be neglect.

The following is now known: children almost never acquire the virus, children that do catch the virus have extremely mild symptoms, and that when they do acquire it, they pass it on at a low rate.

That's "the science" on Covid, kids, and schools..

THE TEACHERS????

Paid leave for any teachers over 60 or with severe medical complications.. The REST -- will be just fine.. They'll be with a population of 18 and under that are NOT -- big transmitter of the virus.. Safer than working a grocery store... Get them some BETTER masks that they can wear all day if it makes everyone feel safer...

 

[Cecilie1200]

Trump cultists, good luck with the whole "I DEMAND THAT WE GET TO KILL YOUR CHILDREN!" line. That's going to be real popular with parents.

What they should do is have class and video so the parents that choose not to send their kids to school can watch the teacher at home instead. But I think most parents want their kids back in school because if they don't go, somebody has to stay home and watch them. That's not feasible for most working parents.

True. And Democrats know that. They want to force parents to stay at home so they don't work and help the economy. It's part of their hate filled, anti-American November 3 strategy. It's stick

Many households are check to check families. Government can't support people forever as we are approaching 30 trillion dollars in debt if we don't stop these giveaways. It's a struggle enough for a couple, but how are single parents supposed to stay home if they got called back to work and therefore can't get on unemployment?

If we are to be totally honest, school mostly serves us as a government baby sitter.

Educationally, yes. But it is better for younger kids still to be in socially as well. Certainly to your point it'd be far better for parents to have put them in private schools so they can get a real education as well.

Whether kids need to go back to school in the fall (they do) and what schools they are going to go to are important discussions, but they are separate discussions.

What cracks me up is when leftists say schools are terrible, so they don't need to go back!

I find the leftist stance on this remarkable. I mean, what if we just have to get used to having our kids learn online? Then if it takes us a couple of years before we wipe out this virus, and we opt to keep online schooling, it would mean massive layoffs for teachers as we would no longer have use for many of them. If one teacher can teach 25 kids, why not 250 kids? Why not 500?

On the other side of that coin is the hypocrisy of the right; particularly my favorite cable news network show host, Laura Ingraham. She's constantly telling her audience how kids staying out of school leads to apprehension and depression. How it's mental torture to keep these kids away from their classmates and teachers.

Wait a minute! Before the virus when education came up, people on the right always promoted home schooling. You know, get those kids out of the clutches of those liberal teachers showing kids how to put a condom on a banana, and filling their heads with environmental damage nonsense.

I'd say home schooling again is a separate discussion in that sure, if parents plan for home schooling and are going to do it. Just like if parents are wise enough to send their kids to private school. But supporting home schooling to me doesn't mean you don't send kids back to school for homes where they aren't going to do it

I think it's really always been a question of 1) schools shouldn't be deciding to indoctrinate children on non-academic issues, and 2) parents should always have the ability to decide what's best for their children.

In many cases, homeschooling is the only alternative available to public schools. And, as I mentioned before, it's pretty common for homeschooled kids to be enrolled in extra-curricular groups and activities to make up for the lack of social interaction in school. As things stand now, the kids are just cooped up and isolated all the time. That really isn't good for them.

Yes. Any parent who home schools really needs to have a wide variety of social activities for their children

True. But not knowing a damned thing because they would never deign to associate with such people - and those people would rather eat shit than talk to them - never stops leftists from lecturing ad nauseam about all the "facts" they have regarding conservatives in general and homeschoolers in particular.

 

[kaz]

Because it would reveal they hyped COVID to crash the economy and hurt Trump.

No, goofy. It’s because they don’t want their kids to get sick.

Get sick? You mean the one group of people universally acknowledged to have next to a zero chance of even getting the virus?

99% of adults who "get sick" don't even know it unless they get tested and turn out +.

Wrong again asshole. 80% of people who get the virus recover with no problems. 20% are hospitalized. 7% of Americans who test positive DIE.

Those who are hospitalized take months to recover. MONTHS. They’re left with problems with their heart, lungs, kidneys, and vascular systems. We don’t know yet if these people will fully recover, or be left with lifelong problems.

STOP PRETENDING THIS VIRUS IS NOTHING.

Did you make up your own statistics or did you copy them from your local Marxist chapter meeting?

 

[flacaltenn]

Link to the analysis of that German school study can be found here...



Contains link back to the actual study...

 

[Cecilie1200]

Trump cultists, good luck with the whole "I DEMAND THAT WE GET TO KILL YOUR CHILDREN!" line. That's going to be real popular with parents.

What they should do is have class and video so the parents that choose not to send their kids to school can watch the teacher at home instead. But I think most parents want their kids back in school because if they don't go, somebody has to stay home and watch them. That's not feasible for most working parents.

True. And Democrats know that. They want to force parents to stay at home so they don't work and help the economy. It's part of their hate filled, anti-American November 3 strategy. It's stick

Many households are check to check families. Government can't support people forever as we are approaching 30 trillion dollars in debt if we don't stop these giveaways. It's a struggle enough for a couple, but how are single parents supposed to stay home if they got called back to work and therefore can't get on unemployment?

If we are to be totally honest, school mostly serves us as a government baby sitter.

Educationally, yes. But it is better for younger kids still to be in socially as well. Certainly to your point it'd be far better for parents to have put them in private schools so they can get a real education as well.

Whether kids need to go back to school in the fall (they do) and what schools they are going to go to are important discussions, but they are separate discussions.

What cracks me up is when leftists say schools are terrible, so they don't need to go back!

I can remember last year, when the official line was still that homeschooling children was "child abuse", and how DARE anyone keep their children away from leftist public schools, who REALLY know what's best for them and REALLY care about them.

This isn't last year fool, and things haven't changed in regards to the reasons why homeschooling to keep your children from mixing with minorities, getting liberal ideas or learning critical thinking skills is a form of child abuse. When your belief system is so flawed that they only way you can keep your children from abandoning your principles, is to exclude ideas, or people from their lives, that's not a religion, it's a cult.

More race whoring. Pass. You know leftists know yourselves that you're losing badly when you start pulling out the racism crap. It's the only card in your deck. You play it to end any conversation you're getting your head handed to you. Fuck you, bitch. Seriously

I was laughing my ass off at America's Hat haranguing us about racism, as if she doesn't live in one of the whitest damned countries on Earth. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that LizardTwat has never even SEEN a black person who wasn't on television.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Because it would reveal they hyped COVID to crash the economy and hurt Trump.

Wouldn't that be an embarrassment if they all went back to school and NOTHING BAD HAPPENED!

Wouldn't it be a tragedy if they all went back to school and hundreds of teachers, and children with asthma, and other "pre-existing conditions" got sick. I don't know of ANY parent who is so desperate for their children go back to school that they are prepared risk their children's lives or health to send them back.

CONTROL THE VIRUS. THEN TALK ABOUT RE-OPENING. IT'S NOT JUST THE RIGHT WAY, IT'S THE ONLY WAY.

Another ignorant Canuck who doesn't know that children's death rate is virtually zero and they don't effectively transmit the disease.

You also don't care that children are being harmed by being kept at home, they don't effectively learn on computers in replacement of live instruction and that poor kids may not have computer access at all.

Just another hate filled leftist

Yes and No. Ultimately, the jury is still out because while they think that's the case, they're not 100% sure. And it still doesn't change the fact you can't rule the virus spreading with older children. Not every child who attends school is a first grader.
The point still stands. Lower the virus infection rate, take the necessary precautions and issue the relevant guidelines...and we could get back to something resembling normal..including sending kids back to school.

Older Kids May Transmit COVID-19 as Much as Adults Do, New Evidence Shows

Since the early days of the coronavirus pandemic, scientists and health authorities have often observed that children do not appear to contract and transmit the virus to the same extent as adults.

www.sciencealert.com

Or what we could do is open schools for kids up to high school grades. High school kids can stay home while their parents work and learn online.

The study showed 10 years old and older spread the virus as fast and efficient as adults....

The study on 10 years younger children, is not complete yet... They are not showing as contagious, but believe it could be the younger ones were isolated more... it could be they too are just as infectious....

Pretty much the opposite from what I've heard and read. Any credible link to your claim here?

Older children can spread the coronavirus just like adults, new study says

This new study says young adults can spread COVID-19 rather easily.

www.deseret.com

Older Children Spread the Coronavirus Just as Much as Adults, Large Study Finds (Published 2020)

The study of nearly 65,000 people in South Korea suggests that school reopenings will trigger more outbreaks.

www.nytimes.com

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Again, all you're arguing is cut off. That younger children are less vulnerable and need to be in school more is still very important and you keep running away from that, just as you're ignoring that poor children are more likely to have no internet access at all

10 and younger....are allegedly less infectious

But I heard a scientist on the news last night that the study on 10 and younger is not complete.... They believe they too can spread it as well, but the reason they had not in the original study group is because they were protected and sheltered more....

So the 10 and younger group needs more studies.

OK, but you're still only arguing one side and ignoring the damage being done to children, particularly poor children. You aren't offering ANY solutions, just criticizing.

And again, the death rate for children of all ages is still virtually zero

Yep.....they don't care about the damage. They care about beating Trump in November.

The solution is:

1. Get the virus under control BEFORE opening anything;

2. Get testing, and contract tracing up to snuff. A testing system that takes two weeks to get results is no testing system at all. Reagents and testing supplies are still in short supply and there is no effective contract tracing set up in most states.

3. Re-opening pursuant to the guidelines, not just rushing to open.

We're all excited where I live. We go to Stage 3 on Friday, with masks being mandated when in closed spaces. Our biggest issue right now is teaching children to wear masks, and learning to carry them with us, although most stores are giving them out at the moment.

My grandkids are having typical kid issues. The kids hate wearing them just as much as the rest of us, but they see their parents modelling wearing the masks, and understand they're now necessary. We have four babies under the age of 3 in our family at the moment, so these little ones don't understand and the almost 3 year old is having no part of it, except he wants to go with the rest of the family. Let's just say it ain't easy, but this little guy is better at wearing his mask than the President of the United States.

It's really amazing how you can hear, "Oh, please, share your wisdom with us about how to run our country!" no matter WHAT the person actually said.

Well put. Dragon is like a gas station owner planning to call the CEO of Exxon to share some of his good ideas with the boss

I keep telling her, "If we ever want to learn to be an insignificant pissant country that leeches off of its neighbors, we'll call you."

 

[hadit]

Trump cultists, good luck with the whole "I DEMAND THAT WE GET TO KILL YOUR CHILDREN!" line. That's going to be real popular with parents.

What they should do is have class and video so the parents that choose not to send their kids to school can watch the teacher at home instead. But I think most parents want their kids back in school because if they don't go, somebody has to stay home and watch them. That's not feasible for most working parents.

True. And Democrats know that. They want to force parents to stay at home so they don't work and help the economy. It's part of their hate filled, anti-American November 3 strategy. It's stick

Many households are check to check families. Government can't support people forever as we are approaching 30 trillion dollars in debt if we don't stop these giveaways. It's a struggle enough for a couple, but how are single parents supposed to stay home if they got called back to work and therefore can't get on unemployment?

If we are to be totally honest, school mostly serves us as a government baby sitter.

Educationally, yes. But it is better for younger kids still to be in socially as well. Certainly to your point it'd be far better for parents to have put them in private schools so they can get a real education as well.

Whether kids need to go back to school in the fall (they do) and what schools they are going to go to are important discussions, but they are separate discussions.

What cracks me up is when leftists say schools are terrible, so they don't need to go back!

I can remember last year, when the official line was still that homeschooling children was "child abuse", and how DARE anyone keep their children away from leftist public schools, who REALLY know what's best for them and REALLY care about them.

This isn't last year fool, and things haven't changed in regards to the reasons why homeschooling to keep your children from mixing with minorities, getting liberal ideas or learning critical thinking skills is a form of child abuse. When your belief system is so flawed that they only way you can keep your children from abandoning your principles, is to exclude ideas, or people from their lives, that's not a religion, it's a cult.

Which is not the primary reason for homeschooling.

 

[Marion Morrison]

I never dreamed it would get this crazy in America.
This is Clown World.