The Reason for Poverty Among Blacks is Not Racism

[JoeB131]

So by that logic if black people went into Beverly Hills n shot up whites in a drive by and there were no witnesses are you saying the police would not be able to catch them ?

Uh, you and logic aren't even in the same Zip Code.

Obviously, people can get away with murder... Just look at OJ and Robert Blake. But they usually don't get away with it when there are dozens of witnesses... unless they didn't see nothin'

Again. You're just repeating what you ve already wrote and I answered this point previously. After I write a thought-out post showing how you're wrong, you'll come back in a few days later when you think I've forgotten and then repeat your main point again as if you didn't lose at all.

A crazy post saying "White Supremacists" shot up that funeral? Were they the same White Supremacists who beat up Juicy Smollet?

Again. Your repeating the same point you made about George Floyd previously

Once a person gets a certain idea into their mind, it is hard to get it out of their mind…..People like you lack the ability to think rationally and probably send a lot of time watching TV and believe everything you see on TV.

I just point out the observance. Yes, it was tragic that Floyd died, but he certainly doesn't merit canonization.

And Germany is a bit of slum these days. I've been there and most of Europe.

It was because the mafia were white. That's the reason why it goined a foothold.

Well, that and it provides services people want. Legalize prostitution, legalize drugs, legalize gambling, you'd be amazed how fast what little is left of the Mafia would go away.

Listen to this guy. He can't even get his hip hop stereotypes up to date.

I don't pay enough attention to Hip Hop to know who has been offing who... I just think it's funny when it happens.

 

[Paul Essien]

JoeB131
I don't pay enough attention to Hip Hop to know who has been offing who... I just think it's funny when it happens.

Well you are an older senile man. So I'll give you a pass.

JoeB131
Well, that and it provides services people want. Legalize prostitution, legalize drugs, legalize gambling, you'd be amazed how fast what little is left of the Mafia would go away.

Many white men want to have sex with underage boys and gisls. What's your point ?

JoeB131
A crazy post saying "White Supremacists" shot up that funeral?

My father always said the meanest people on earth were white People and that they are products of what is known as INVOLUTION which is the opposite of EVOLUTION.

Only a soul can make you a HUE-man and we use our pineal glands to connect with our souls. They don’t poison them, starve them and drop bombs on them and all that done from a people who have done nothing to them

When you look at black history it's almost like we are dealing with another species. So white supremacist shooting up a black funeral is light work

JoeB131
I just point out the observance. Yes, it was tragic that Floyd died, but he certainly doesn't merit canonization.

You're just repeating what you have already wrote.

JoeB131
Obviously, people can get @away with murder..

I'm not talking about other murders that people have got away with. I was talking about the fact that you wrote

JoeB131
"If some gangbangers shot up Beverly Hills, you'd have a hundred witnesses describing them... and ready to testify"

So if that's the case then you must think if black people were to do a drive by in beverly hills and shoot up whites and there were no witnesses. They would get away with murder

JoeB131
"Just look at OJ and Robert Blake. But they usually don't get away with it when there are dozens of witnesses... unless they didn't see nothin'

OK. Let's not try and derail the argument here. Let's not do that. Stay on the subject if you are able to. So let's SLOW WALK this. So go back to what you wrote about Beverly Hills and answer the question

 

[IM2]

At the time Italians weren't considered white, neither were the Irish and Jews.

But they turned white just in time to enforce jim crow.

 

[IM2]

The Mafia gained a foothold for the same reason the Latino and Black drug gangs gained a foothold. Unlimited amounts of money to bribe cops. prosecutors, judges and public officials. Not to mention being willing to use violence to further their aims. The Cartels have a phrase for it "plomo o plata" lead or silver. In other words take the bribe or die.

There is no black and latino gang that is the equivalent of the mafia.

 

[IM2]

That does happen in some cases. And whites do actually shoot each other in Chicago.

 

[MarathonMike]

There is no black and latino gang that is the equivalent of the mafia.

There we go! The drug cartels are no problem but the "Mafia" is the real problem. So provide a link supporting your theory that the real problem isn't MS-13 and the Mexican Cartels, it is the Italian Mafia.

 

[IM2]

If you really want to go there... how many people were murdered in those rural communities last year.

Chicago had 797 homicides last year.

Not sure what you mean by those who "control" the crime? You mean the gang leaders? The Mafia? City Hall? Or do you mean the police.



If you mean Plessy, yes, that was a bad decision... But it only confirmed practices already in place.

Don't play stupid Joe. Chicago was not the number 1 city in killing nor is it in the top 10 most dangerous.

Joe, whites such as yourself run off at the mouth about 1 kind of killing and want us to jump on that upon your command. I think it's time you went to school.

ALL RISE!

Todays lesson:

797 Homicides in Chicago Equal approximately 1 Days Worth of the Number of Blacks Who Die Each Day From Health Problems Caused by White Racism.

On June 3, 2020, SAMHSA’s Office of Behavioral Health Equity published a report titled, “Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans.” They found that racism contributed to poor mental health and chronic physical health problems.

“Racism and associated trauma and violence contribute to mental health disorders, particularly depression, anxiety and PTSD, and chronic health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension, diabetes, maternal mortality/infant mortality and morbidity in African Americans. Racism is considered a fundamental cause of adverse health outcomes for racial/ethnic minorities and racial/ethnic inequities in health. The primary domains of racism - structural/institutional racism, cultural racism, and individual-level discrimination— are linked to mental and physical health outcomes. Racism and violence targeting a specific community is increasingly associated with complex trauma and intergenerational trauma, all of which have physical and behavioral health consequences.”

Studies show that consistent exposure to adversity and marginalization causes early health declines in black Americans. Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, and racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body due to constant pressure. Such stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the overall amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks.

Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States,” a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes, was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. Their research showed that structural racism was one cause of heart attacks in black people.

You have stated that 797 homicides occurred in Chicago last year,

According to the American Heart Association, hypertension-related deaths in the black community increased from 171,259 to 270,839 annually from 2000-2018. According to these numbers, 739 blacks die each day from stress related hypertension. You guys talk about murder, but white racism is killing way more blacks than what you decide to use for an example. Blacks see the 2021 Chicago homicide rate every day and other blacks aren't doing the killing.

You will probably dismiss this, and try to claim something else causes the hypertension, but I am black and know what happens to a persons body when they experience white racism and consistently see acts of it. 739 people per day and those are black lives that matter who we are trying to save.

 

[IM2]

There we go! The drug cartels are no problem but the "Mafia" is the real problem. So provide a link supporting your theory that the real problem isn't MS-13 and the Mexican Cartels, it is the Italian Mafia.

No I won't. The Mafia does business with those cartels.

 

[AZrailwhale]

There is no black and latino gang that is the equivalent of the mafia.

You're kidding right? You haven't heard of MS-13, Nuevo Laredo Cartel, Sinaloa Cartel, Medellin Cartel, Gulf Cartel, Los Zetas, Juarez Cartel for Latino gangs? How about the Crips and the Bloods for Black gangs? Those are just the big ones that come immediately to mind.

 

[AZrailwhale]

But they turned white just in time to enforce jim crow.

Jim Crow was mostly enforced by WASPs and mostly in the Southern states. The southern racists hated Wops, Micks and Kikes at least as much as they hated Blacks. They probably hated them more than they hated wetbacks.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That does happen in some cases. And whites do actually shoot each other in Chicago.

From time to time I'm sure. It's no different here than any other city. Black gangs get involved in drugs and kill each other. Blacks have what I call the code of stupidity. Somebody kills a person and nobody seen a thing. Blacks want to take care of their own problems themselves. So then a gang or family member of the deceased goes out and kills somebody from the shooters gang or family member to get even. Then it goes back and forth until the police figure out one of the murders, arrest the guy, and the killing stops for a while.

 

[MarathonMike]

No I won't. The Mafia does business with those cartels.

Busted IM2 loses again.

 

[MarathonMike]

Don't play stupid Joe. Chicago was not the number 1 city in killing nor is it in the top 10 most dangerous.

Joe, whites such as yourself run off at the mouth about 1 kind of killing and want us to jump on that upon your command. I think it's time you went to school.

ALL RISE!

Todays lesson:

797 Homicides in Chicago Equal approximately 1 Days Worth of the Number of Blacks Who Die Each Day From Health Problems Caused by White Racism.

On June 3, 2020, SAMHSA’s Office of Behavioral Health Equity published a report titled, “Trauma, Racism, Chronic Stress and the Health of Black Americans.” They found that racism contributed to poor mental health and chronic physical health problems.

“Racism and associated trauma and violence contribute to mental health disorders, particularly depression, anxiety and PTSD, and chronic health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, hypertension, diabetes, maternal mortality/infant mortality and morbidity in African Americans. Racism is considered a fundamental cause of adverse health outcomes for racial/ethnic minorities and racial/ethnic inequities in health. The primary domains of racism - structural/institutional racism, cultural racism, and individual-level discrimination— are linked to mental and physical health outcomes. Racism and violence targeting a specific community is increasingly associated with complex trauma and intergenerational trauma, all of which have physical and behavioral health consequences.”

Studies show that consistent exposure to adversity and marginalization causes early health declines in black Americans. Racism is a stressor that triggers the body into allostasis or better understood, and racism forces the body to adapt to stress. Allostasis is the process that helps us adapt to stress. Allostatic load is compiled damage to the body due to constant pressure. Such stress leads to allostatic overload, which is the point when the overall amount of stress causes health problems or death. For example, allostatic processes lead to increases in blood pressure, a leading cause of death in the black community. Allostatic overload created by stress caused due to constant exposure to racism increases the occurrences of myocardial infarction in blacks.

Simply put, a myocardial infarction is a heart attack. In 2014, “Structural racism and myocardial infarction in the United States,” a study by Alicia Lukachko, Mark Hatzenbuehler, & Katherine Keyes, was published in Social Science and Medicine Journal. Their research showed that structural racism was one cause of heart attacks in black people.

You have stated that 797 homicides occurred in Chicago last year,

According to the American Heart Association, hypertension-related deaths in the black community increased from 171,259 to 270,839 annually from 2000-2018. According to these numbers, 739 blacks die each day from stress related hypertension. You guys talk about murder, but white racism is killing way more blacks than what you decide to use for an example. Blacks see the 2021 Chicago homicide rate every day and other blacks aren't doing the killing.

You will probably dismiss this, and try to claim something else causes the hypertension, but I am black and know what happens to a persons body when they experience white racism and consistently see acts of it. 739 people per day and those are black lives that matter who we are trying to save.

How many hundreds of times are you going to regurgitate this nonsense? This is all you got? Some bogus study on "death by racism" that you obsess about constantly. You are a sad, angry little man,.

 

[IM2]

You're kidding right? You haven't heard of MS-13, Nuevo Laredo Cartel, Sinaloa Cartel, Medellin Cartel, Gulf Cartel, Los Zetas, Juarez Cartel for Latino gangs? How about the Crips and the Bloods for Black gangs? Those are just the big ones that come immediately to mind.

There are more white gangs and the Mafia works with all those gangs.

 

[IM2]

How many hundreds of times are you going to regurgitate this nonsense? This is all you got? Some bogus study on "death by racism" that you obsess about constantly. You are a sad, angry little man,.

It real son. You are a sad angry delusional little white racist man.

 

[IM2]

Busted IM2 loses again.

Nope. It's reality. None of those gangs own trucking companies.

 

[IM2]

Jim Crow was mostly enforced by WASPs and mostly in the Southern states. The southern racists hated Wops, Micks and Kikes at least as much as they hated Blacks. They probably hated them more than they hated wetbacks.

Jim Crow was nationwide.

 

[IM2]

From time to time I'm sure. It's no different here than any other city. Black gangs get involved in drugs and kill each other. Blacks have what I call the code of stupidity. Somebody kills a person and nobody seen a thing. Blacks want to take care of their own problems themselves. So then a gang or family member of the deceased goes out and kills somebody from the shooters gang or family member to get even. Then it goes back and forth until the police figure out one of the murders, arrest the guy, and the killing stops for a while.

Whites organize crime and made it corporate. Some even employ police.

 

[MarathonMike]

Nope. It's reality. None of those gangs own trucking companies.

More fiction out the mind of an obsessed racist. You shovel a lot of shit and never provide evidence that supports your nonsense. Oh, except for Left wing professors who feed you studies that get you all excited.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Whites organize crime and made it corporate. Some even employ police.

Yes they did. Not so much now of course. Cleveland used to be a big mob town. In fact one of my first jobs was a company owned by the mob. But the mob was not always a bad thing. They used to keep neighborhoods safe. Look at Vegas. When the mob ran it, it was a safe prosperous town. After the government ran them out, it pretty much went to hell. Murders, robberies, casino cheats. The mob never allowed that kind of shit to go on.