The Republican war on the Poor

[Mustang]

The Republicans' War on Food Stamps | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The House's deep slash to the food-stamp program, combined with outlandish restrictions, arose from various impulses. There was, obviously, the long-standing animus within the Republican Party toward poor people, and that's been substantially intensified as a result of the transformation of the party, whose center of gravity has moved south and west.

Moreover, a minority of the party in the House, backed by powerful and wealthy outside interest groups, has seized the reins by throwing terror into the ranks that if they don't conform to the Tea Party's agenda, they could face defeat in a primary challenge from the right in the next election. Bob Dole's and George McGovern's time is long gone. Neither the Senate, nor the House, nor American politics are anything like they were in their time. The Republican Party in the Senate contains no Jacob Javits, the late New York senator who fought to protect food stamps. Among the Democrats, there's no Edward Kennedy to champion the causes of the poor, to even enjoy doing battle for them.

One of the few unabashed liberals, Tom Harkin of Iowa, is retiring after five terms. Harkin was born into modest means, which he has never forgotten – he needed no lectures about bootstraps.

Women, Hispanics, the Poor....Where will the GOP go next with its never ending battle with anyone who is not a wealthy, white male?

The poor have at least two strikes against them. For one thing, they don't give money to Republicans. And secondly, the don't vote for Republicans. In fact, many, if not most, of them probably don't vote at all.

That might change in the upcoming election.

 

[Clementine]

The Republicans' War on Food Stamps | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The House's deep slash to the food-stamp program, combined with outlandish restrictions, arose from various impulses. There was, obviously, the long-standing animus within the Republican Party toward poor people, and that's been substantially intensified as a result of the transformation of the party, whose center of gravity has moved south and west.

Moreover, a minority of the party in the House, backed by powerful and wealthy outside interest groups, has seized the reins by throwing terror into the ranks that if they don't conform to the Tea Party's agenda, they could face defeat in a primary challenge from the right in the next election. Bob Dole's and George McGovern's time is long gone. Neither the Senate, nor the House, nor American politics are anything like they were in their time. The Republican Party in the Senate contains no Jacob Javits, the late New York senator who fought to protect food stamps. Among the Democrats, there's no Edward Kennedy to champion the causes of the poor, to even enjoy doing battle for them.

One of the few unabashed liberals, Tom Harkin of Iowa, is retiring after five terms. Harkin was born into modest means, which he has never forgotten – he needed no lectures about bootstraps.

Women, Hispanics, the Poor....Where will the GOP go next with its never ending battle with anyone who is not a wealthy, white male?

The "deep slash" is merely the extra money people were getting from the stimulus bill and it's expiring. The stimulus temporarily increased the money for a time. There are many other things that were pumped up by stimulus money and once it ran out, the states scrambled to find money because we all know government programs are forever and the funding needing has reached astronomical levels.

Meanwhile, there are constant reports of people abusing the system. People are selling food stamps for cash, using their EBT cards for cigarettes, salons, casinos and other totally non-essential things.

Maybe if Dems were more willing to oversee programs they start, there would be billions less in fraud, waste and abuse and no truly deserving people would go without. As it is, the scammers are gobbling up government aid because it's so damn easy to take advantage of it. They should be able to see where EBT cards are used and hold people responsible when it's wasted on shit that doesn't help their children one iota.

Obama could put the work requirement for the able bodied back into the program.

Then we can stop sending billions each year to countries that hate our guts.

We have to make cuts. We can't keep printing or borrowing money for the big giveaways or we will crash. How many people could you help if the Obama's skipped a few vacations each year or stopped sending equipment and money to terrorists, like the Muslim Brotherhood or Syrian rebels?

Where is the common sense?

So, the extra money ran out. It was extra, not part of the original deal. Now those on welfare will have to budget even more carefully, just like the tax payers have to do.

How is it that liberals freak out if they perceive any hardship for illegals or welfare recipients, but don't give a shit that so many working families lost their insurance and can't afford the new plans because of Obamacare? Do you understand that they are having an extremely difficult time, maybe more so than some welfare families?

No liberal spoke up when military paychecks were threatened, yet the EBT money was a few days late and it caused panic.

Why do liberals assume that people who pay taxes are immune from financial hardship? Or it is that they are hoping like hell that those workers will be overwhelmed and end up as government dependents? I really think that's the plan and it's the only possible explanation for the polices that attack the middle class.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That's not the case but if the area is red there would be more republicans there. But since Rdean said the sky is blue you start yelling "Its WHITE too you dummy!"

not true moron...it only means more republicans voted

please keep quiet so you don't look like the fool. btw...rdean never mentions poor liberals in red states, he acts as if there are only poor republicans, so in essence, using your lame analogy, he is saying the sky is always blue.

Ok technically true...but you know since there are no such things as absolutes. You know that there isn't a state with every citizen being in one party.

Rdean isn't saying that but if that's what you believe he is saying then just go on the fact that there is no such thing as absolutes. So if I say birds fly you don't have to tell me about the ostrich.

Rdean is just being his usual hack self and you're defending him.

 

[JimH52]

Here, I have evidence that Republicans hate the Poor...

Liberals, take a long look in the mirror | Star Tribune

Conservatives Donate More Than Liberals

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I hate dimocraps. Lyingest scumbags in the history of the World

From your link:

a higher proportion of conservatives are religious and, thus, report routinely giving to churches and faith-based ministries.

Get it pinhead? They give to the churches they go to, to help the people they already know.

Besides, most of the money the Catholic Charities gets comes from the government. Bush did that with his "faith based" charities scheme.


Finally,

Just giving someone some shit doesn't help them out. Republicans don't understand this because they are against education and science. No one get's more help than Red States. And they get that help from Blue States. Money flows from the liberals to tarded Republicans. What a waste of money.

You're a scumbag

Typical GOP debate method....just insult.

 

[JWBooth]

Finally, a war on an actual, recognizable threat to the republic.

 

[Avatar4321]

When it's taken out of your paycheck via withholding before you have a chance to make any decisions. And if you manage to not have it taken out via withholding, expect audits, liens, fines, penalties, and possibly prison time.

what you're describing is robbery, not charity.

Because by definition, if it's forced it's not charity.

I agree. It is NOT charity.

But the people who steal your money and give to those who will vote for them (dimocrap scum) want to thank you for your generous contribution.

Call it whatever you want. They still get elected by stealing your money and giving it to people to buy their votes.

It's just that simple

I call it robbery. Taking the property of others by force to help oneself.

 

[Avatar4321]

From your link:

a higher proportion of conservatives are religious and, thus, report routinely giving to churches and faith-based ministries.

Get it pinhead? They give to the churches they go to, to help the people they already know.

Besides, most of the money the Catholic Charities gets comes from the government. Bush did that with his "faith based" charities scheme.


Finally,

Just giving someone some shit doesn't help them out. Republicans don't understand this because they are against education and science. No one get's more help than Red States. And they get that help from Blue States. Money flows from the liberals to tarded Republicans. What a waste of money.

You're a scumbag

Typical GOP debate method....just insult.

Tell me, did you really think your thread, which is predicated on insulting people, would get anything else in return? If you don't want people to insult them, then you probably should be insulting them to begin with.

 

[Avatar4321]

Of course.... Not a clue!

If you want to lie to yourself, that's fine. Show some evidence of them hating the poor. or anyone.

Free lunch over for 280,000 low-income children

What I don't understand is whether or not USMB Republicans even know what their leaders are doing. They say they don't believe it until you show them beyond a doubt and then they say that supporting a party doesn't mean supporting everything it does. In the words of Bush, "if you aren't against it, then you are for it".

So to prove that the people in the picture you posted hate the poor you post stupid comments by someone else?

And it's Republicans who are supposedly anti education...

 

[Avatar4321]

Asking for proof of emotion is asking for proof that cant ever exist. That's the kind of proof Avatar always wants someone to provide.

There is an easily solution to that. If you don't want to give proof that can't ever exist, don't make claims you know you can't prove. Pretty simple. Because if you are going to accuse others of something, you better have evidence for it. Otherwise you're a liar.

 

[ClosedCaption]

not true moron...it only means more republicans voted

please keep quiet so you don't look like the fool. btw...rdean never mentions poor liberals in red states, he acts as if there are only poor republicans, so in essence, using your lame analogy, he is saying the sky is always blue.

Ok technically true...but you know since there are no such things as absolutes. You know that there isn't a state with every citizen being in one party.

Rdean isn't saying that but if that's what you believe he is saying then just go on the fact that there is no such thing as absolutes. So if I say birds fly you don't have to tell me about the ostrich.

Rdean is just being his usual hack self and you're defending him.

And you are being your usual anti Rdean self and letting it get in the way of making sense. There is no such thing as absolutes. For you to run in and say that is an easy dodge but a weak counterpoint

 

[Avatar4321]

Ok technically true...but you know since there are no such things as absolutes. You know that there isn't a state with every citizen being in one party.

Rdean isn't saying that but if that's what you believe he is saying then just go on the fact that there is no such thing as absolutes. So if I say birds fly you don't have to tell me about the ostrich.

Rdean is just being his usual hack self and you're defending him.

And you are being your usual anti Rdean self and letting it get in the way of making sense. There is no such thing as absolutes. For you to run in and say that is an easy dodge but a weak counterpoint

There is no such thing as absolutes? Do you how amusingly ironic that statement is?

 

[ClosedCaption]

Rdean is just being his usual hack self and you're defending him.

And you are being your usual anti Rdean self and letting it get in the way of making sense. There is no such thing as absolutes. For you to run in and say that is an easy dodge but a weak counterpoint

There is no such thing as absolutes? Do you how amusingly ironic that statement is?

No tell me

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Ok technically true...but you know since there are no such things as absolutes. You know that there isn't a state with every citizen being in one party.

Rdean isn't saying that but if that's what you believe he is saying then just go on the fact that there is no such thing as absolutes. So if I say birds fly you don't have to tell me about the ostrich.

Rdean is just being his usual hack self and you're defending him.

And you are being your usual anti Rdean self and letting it get in the way of making sense. There is no such thing as absolutes. For you to run in and say that is an easy dodge but a weak counterpoint

For you to argue that there are no absolutes is really running off the rails. There are absolutes in all disciplines. Physical laws, economics, math, hard sciences, even absolutes in sociology.

 

[Avatar4321]

And you are being your usual anti Rdean self and letting it get in the way of making sense. There is no such thing as absolutes. For you to run in and say that is an easy dodge but a weak counterpoint

There is no such thing as absolutes? Do you how amusingly ironic that statement is?

No tell me

There is no such thing as an absolute is an example of an absolute.

 

[Edgetho]

There is no such thing as absolutes? Do you how amusingly ironic that statement is?

No tell me

There is no such thing as an absolute is an example of an absolute.

Beat me to it by a couple minutes. I was otherwise occupied or I would have nailed his dick to the door.

 

[ClosedCaption]

There is no such thing as absolutes? Do you how amusingly ironic that statement is?

No tell me

There is no such thing as an absolute is an example of an absolute.

I like that Touche'

 

[Avatar4321]

No tell me

There is no such thing as an absolute is an example of an absolute.

Beat me to it by a couple minutes. I was otherwise occupied or I would have nailed his dick to the door.

I wasn't trying to "nail his dick to the door". In fact, I don't particularly care about his dick whatsoever.

I just found it amusing. Looks like he did too.

 

[Stephanie]

The Republicans' War on Food Stamps | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The House's deep slash to the food-stamp program, combined with outlandish restrictions, arose from various impulses. There was, obviously, the long-standing animus within the Republican Party toward poor people, and that's been substantially intensified as a result of the transformation of the party, whose center of gravity has moved south and west.

Moreover, a minority of the party in the House, backed by powerful and wealthy outside interest groups, has seized the reins by throwing terror into the ranks that if they don't conform to the Tea Party's agenda, they could face defeat in a primary challenge from the right in the next election. Bob Dole's and George McGovern's time is long gone. Neither the Senate, nor the House, nor American politics are anything like they were in their time. The Republican Party in the Senate contains no Jacob Javits, the late New York senator who fought to protect food stamps. Among the Democrats, there's no Edward Kennedy to champion the causes of the poor, to even enjoy doing battle for them.

One of the few unabashed liberals, Tom Harkin of Iowa, is retiring after five terms. Harkin was born into modest means, which he has never forgotten – he needed no lectures about bootstraps.

Women, Hispanics, the Poor....Where will the GOP go next with its never ending battle with anyone who is not a wealthy, white male?

The poor have at least two strikes against them. For one thing, they don't give money to Republicans. And secondly, the don't vote for Republicans. In fact, many, if not most, of them probably don't vote at all.

That might change in the upcoming election.

omg....
and you know the poor don't vote republican from your CRYSTAL BALL or magic eight ball?
another snob who's main goal in life is to divide this country into shreads

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No tell me

There is no such thing as an absolute is an example of an absolute.

Beat me to it by a couple minutes. I was otherwise occupied or I would have nailed his dick to the door.

CC just being goofy.

 

[ClosedCaption]

There is no such thing as an absolute is an example of an absolute.

Beat me to it by a couple minutes. I was otherwise occupied or I would have nailed his dick to the door.

I wasn't trying to "nail his dick to the door". In fact, I don't particularly care about his dick whatsoever.

I just found it amusing. Looks like he did too.

I did and Edge will continue to think about ways to think about or touch dicks