The Roosevelt Myths vs. The Facts

[PoliticalChic]

My point?

At your advanced age, one would imagine that you recognize this truth:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


Prior to the 'Great Depression,' this nation had over thirty economic downturns.
They lasted 1-2 years.

Roosevelt, by design, in order to undermine our nation's foundings, extended the depression by a factor of four or five times....along with the agony inflicted on the people.



So....quoting words merely is simply an exercise in what you always do.....lie.

The Great Depression was already three years old when FDR took office, so your 1-2 years was already past

FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work and taking care of those who needed it. He really didn't care if stock portfolios returned as quickly as possible

Like FDR said.....People don't eat in the long run

"FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work..."

In that case, he was a horrible failure.


1. Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 andUnemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



2. " “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library


3. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.”

This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

A picture is worth a thousand Political Chic cut and pastes

Let's have Schlesinger interpret it for you:

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .

No question FDR bungled the 1937 crash. He was believing his numbers and thought he had the depression licked. He gave in to the right and slashed spending to balance the budget (sounds like Republicans today doesn't it?). The result was a hike in unemployment by 9%

FDR learned not to listen to Republicans again

" He gave in to the right..."

OMG....you're reduced to this obvious lie?????

He ran on class warfare....he hated and attacked the right, the business community at every opportunity.



"Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped.He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.”He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem.As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

 

[PoliticalChic]

The more one studies political and economic history, one begins to understand that there are no real or significant differences between socialism, Marxism, communism, Progressivism, Fascism....or this:


5. The NationalsozialistischeDeutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the NationalSocialistGerman Workers' Party, commonly abbreviated as "Nazis" ...was simply a variation on the theme.


After all, what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


So, it should not surprise that not only was Roosevelt copacetic with Mussolini, but he was equally so with Hitler.The National Socialists hailed FDR's ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:

a. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”

b.And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

c. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”

d. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”

In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2


Franklin Roosevelt's economic policies were in line with those of other dictators.

These are the facts.

 

[Camp]

The facts and the truth of FDRs wretched performance speak for themselves. That's why we calmly keep presenting them to you.

The Progressives reflexive defense is to say, "but historians say he's great" as if that supercedes the facts.

We'll be waiting here when you finally wake up

You are not presenting facts. You are presenting the anti-New Deal myths that are opinions or outright misinterpretations and even lies. Your opinions are not facts and you provide no objective academic links to support your opinions. You mention "FDR's wretched performance" but offer no documentation to substantiate your opinion. What you available are political agenda driven commentaries and opinion, not objective academic works. If you do not know what that means, refer to the links I have provided to debunk PoliticalChics claims. Those are academic and objective links. The one about the Dust Bowl Storms and era may be argued as slanted to favor FDR, but there are endless links available about the Dust Bowl. I picked one because it had a short video and good photo's for folks who might not have knowledge about the Dust Bowl.
Note that PoliticalChic has not academically challenged my debunking of her nonsense claim of providing facts. And who posted that stupid comment and lie that the generation of the roaring twenties was the "Greatest Generation"? That is an ongoing lie to deflect from the fact that what is known as the "Greatest Generation" is the era of the FDR time frame. The Greatest Generation chose FDR as it's leader.

 

[Moonglow]

The Great Depression was already three years old when FDR took office, so your 1-2 years was already past

FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work and taking care of those who needed it. He really didn't care if stock portfolios returned as quickly as possible

Like FDR said.....People don't eat in the long run

"FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work..."

In that case, he was a horrible failure.


1. Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 andUnemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



2. " “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library


3. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.”

This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

A picture is worth a thousand Political Chic cut and pastes

Let's have Schlesinger interpret it for you:

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .

No question FDR bungled the 1937 crash. He was believing his numbers and thought he had the depression licked. He gave in to the right and slashed spending to balance the budget (sounds like Republicans today doesn't it?). The result was a hike in unemployment by 9%

FDR learned not to listen to Republicans again

" He gave in to the right..."

OMG....you're reduced to this obvious lie?????

He ran on class warfare....he hated and attacked the right, the business community at every opportunity.



"Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped.He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.”He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem.As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

So you are saying that Henry Ford was a righty??? Oh my...

 

[PoliticalChic]

The facts and the truth of FDRs wretched performance speak for themselves. That's why we calmly keep presenting them to you.

The Progressives reflexive defense is to say, "but historians say he's great" as if that supercedes the facts.

We'll be waiting here when you finally wake up

You are not presenting facts. You are presenting the anti-New Deal myths that are opinions or outright misinterpretations and even lies. Your opinions are not facts and you provide no objective academic links to support your opinions. You mention "FDR's wretched performance" but offer no documentation to substantiate your opinion. What you available are political agenda driven commentaries and opinion, not objective academic works. If you do not know what that means, refer to the links I have provided to debunk PoliticalChics claims. Those are academic and objective links. The one about the Dust Bowl Storms and era may be argued as slanted to favor FDR, but there are endless links available about the Dust Bowl. I picked one because it had a short video and good photo's for folks who might not have knowledge about the Dust Bowl.
Note that PoliticalChic has not academically challenged my debunking of her nonsense claim of providing facts. And who posted that stupid comment and lie that the generation of the roaring twenties was the "Greatest Generation"? That is an ongoing lie to deflect from the fact that what is known as the "Greatest Generation" is the era of the FDR time frame. The Greatest Generation chose FDR as it's leader.

1. "You mention "FDR's wretched performance" but offer no documentation to substantiate your opinion."
A lie.
Documentation throughout the thread.


2. "Note that PoliticalChic has not academically challenged my debunking of her nonsense claim of providing facts."
More 'is not, is nooottttttt!'

3. As usual, you have proven an unmitigated failure.
Much like Roosevelt.

 

[rightwinger]

 

[PoliticalChic]

"FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work..."

In that case, he was a horrible failure.


1. Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 andUnemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



2. " “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library


3. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.”

This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

A picture is worth a thousand Political Chic cut and pastes

Let's have Schlesinger interpret it for you:

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .

No question FDR bungled the 1937 crash. He was believing his numbers and thought he had the depression licked. He gave in to the right and slashed spending to balance the budget (sounds like Republicans today doesn't it?). The result was a hike in unemployment by 9%

FDR learned not to listen to Republicans again

" He gave in to the right..."

OMG....you're reduced to this obvious lie?????

He ran on class warfare....he hated and attacked the right, the business community at every opportunity.



"Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped.He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.”He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem.As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

So you are saying that Henry Ford was a righty??? Oh my...

How about you try to stick to what I actually say.

Roosevelt hated the successful because he never was one in business.
He attacked the right, the business community and engaged in class warfare.
Facts.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And he said this, too...

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Seems he lied a lot.....like you.

 

[Moonglow]

A picture is worth a thousand Political Chic cut and pastes

Let's have Schlesinger interpret it for you:

1. Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., liberal New Deal historian wrote in The National Experience, in 1963, “Though the policies of the Hundred Days had ended despair, they had not produce recovery…” He also wrote honestly about the devastating crash of 1937- in the midst of the “second New Deal” and Roosevelt’s second term. “The collapse in the months after September 1937 was actually more severe than it had been in the first nine months of the depression: national income fell 13 %, payrolls 35 %, durable goods production 50 %, profits 78% .

No question FDR bungled the 1937 crash. He was believing his numbers and thought he had the depression licked. He gave in to the right and slashed spending to balance the budget (sounds like Republicans today doesn't it?). The result was a hike in unemployment by 9%

FDR learned not to listen to Republicans again

" He gave in to the right..."

OMG....you're reduced to this obvious lie?????

He ran on class warfare....he hated and attacked the right, the business community at every opportunity.



"Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped.He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.”He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem.As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade."
Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed

So you are saying that Henry Ford was a righty??? Oh my...

How about you try to stick to what I actually say.

Roosevelt hated the successful because he never was one in business.
He attacked the right, the business community and engaged in class warfare.
Facts.

I believe that FDR was rich and raised as such..His was not having to be anything more than what he wanted, a public servant...

 

[Claudette]

When the facts are revealed, those who have been raised on hagiography, the "Roosevelt is God" groupies, don't try to deny the facts...the squeal like stuck pigs, they obfuscate, they attack the one revealing the facts.


Why not admit the truth?

Answer: because once any truth is admitted, the flood gates would open and their most closely held beliefs and worldview, i.e., Roosevelt and collectivist governance, would dissolve, like sand castles when the tide rolls in.

.

The opening statement is simply wacko. FDR's programs and ideas have outlasted the 20th Century and continue into the 21st Century. No other President of the 20th Century can compare to the lasting influence and legacy of FDR.
The opening statement is simply PoliticalChic telling everyone that if they would simply accept her warped and distorted opinions, everyone would understand and realize what a horrible leader FDR was and reject the opinions of the world's leading historians as well as the folks who lived during his era and re-elected him over and over.

I sent this invitation to you earlier.....
Yet you've conceded this early????


1. You, whining 'is not, isssss nottttttt!' hardly constitutes my losing. I never lose.

2. "Regurgitate one you fantasize blah blah blah..." Don't you know what 'fantasize' means? No? Well....let me educate you on that, as well....fantasize means indulge in daydreaming. As I always......always....quote accurately, link and source all material.....clearly you are lying in a feeble attempt to shield your idol.

3. You leave me no choice but to produce another scholarly, well documented and supported, series of revelations about the wanna-be dictator, Franklin Delano Roosevevelt.
And I challenge you to dispute my facts.
a. For your edification: Fact..... a thing that is indisputably the case."



I purposely wrote facts in the OP so you couldn't miss the targets.

But...sadly, you've, once again, proven to be a failure.

I wouldn't worry about Campass. Hell. His sig line was IN FDR WE TRUST.

Shows what a clueless moron he is.

All anyone has to do is Google FDR to see how his polices prolonged the GD.

He had all kinds of projects to put people to work the problem was they were Govt. projects that needed tax dollars to fund them.

Hell. That asshat raised taxes as much as 90% on businesses. It was no wonder there were no jobs. No one could afford to pay anyone.

Harding, on the other hand, did everything right hence the Roaring 20's.

In FDR we trust my ass.

 

[Moonglow]

When the facts are revealed, those who have been raised on hagiography, the "Roosevelt is God" groupies, don't try to deny the facts...the squeal like stuck pigs, they obfuscate, they attack the one revealing the facts.


Why not admit the truth?

Answer: because once any truth is admitted, the flood gates would open and their most closely held beliefs and worldview, i.e., Roosevelt and collectivist governance, would dissolve, like sand castles when the tide rolls in.

.

The opening statement is simply wacko. FDR's programs and ideas have outlasted the 20th Century and continue into the 21st Century. No other President of the 20th Century can compare to the lasting influence and legacy of FDR.
The opening statement is simply PoliticalChic telling everyone that if they would simply accept her warped and distorted opinions, everyone would understand and realize what a horrible leader FDR was and reject the opinions of the world's leading historians as well as the folks who lived during his era and re-elected him over and over.

I sent this invitation to you earlier.....
Yet you've conceded this early????


1. You, whining 'is not, isssss nottttttt!' hardly constitutes my losing. I never lose.

2. "Regurgitate one you fantasize blah blah blah..." Don't you know what 'fantasize' means? No? Well....let me educate you on that, as well....fantasize means indulge in daydreaming. As I always......always....quote accurately, link and source all material.....clearly you are lying in a feeble attempt to shield your idol.

3. You leave me no choice but to produce another scholarly, well documented and supported, series of revelations about the wanna-be dictator, Franklin Delano Roosevevelt.
And I challenge you to dispute my facts.
a. For your edification: Fact..... a thing that is indisputably the case."



I purposely wrote facts in the OP so you couldn't miss the targets.

But...sadly, you've, once again, proven to be a failure.

I wouldn't worry about Campass. Hell. His sig line was IN FDR WE TRUST.

Shows what a clueless moron he is.

All anyone has to do is Google FDR to see how his polices prolonged the GD.

He had all kinds of projects to put people to work the problem was they were Govt. projects that needed tax dollars to fund them.

Hell. That asshat raised taxes as much as 90% on businesses. It was no wonder there were no jobs. No one could afford to pay anyone.

Harding, on the other hand, did everything right hence the Roaring 20's.

In FDR we trust my ass.

If he did everything right then the market would not have crashed...

 

[Camp]

.

At your advanced age, one would imagine that you recognize this truth:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


Prior to the 'Great Depression,' this nation had over thirty economic downturns.
They lasted 1-2 years.

Roosevelt, by design, in order to undermine our nation's foundings, extended the depression by a factor of four or five....along with the agony inflicted on the people.



So....quoting words merely is simply an exercise in what you always do.....lie.

Your point?

The Depression was already going for three years when FDR took office. Hoovers "Prosperity is just around the corner" was a myth...it took FDR to actually DO something

The greatness of FDR was that he realized that the depression was more about the suffering of the poor than about the profits for the rich

My point?

At your advanced age, one would imagine that you recognize this truth:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


Prior to the 'Great Depression,' this nation had over thirty economic downturns.
They lasted 1-2 years.

Roosevelt, by design, in order to undermine our nation's foundings, extended the depression by a factor of four or five times....along with the agony inflicted on the people.



So....quoting words merely is simply an exercise in what you always do.....lie.

The Great Depression was already three years old when FDR took office, so your 1-2 years was already past

FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work and taking care of those who needed it. He really didn't care if stock portfolios returned as quickly as possible

Like FDR said.....People don't eat in the long run

"FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work..."

In that case, he was a horrible failure.


1. Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 andUnemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



2. " “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library


3. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.”

This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

You have been debunked on this over and over. It has been plainly explained that the workers in the New Deal programs were included in this fraudulent .example. Over 3 1/2 million workers would have had to get in line and not got to work to make this silly story about a line work.

Explain why you continue to use the irrelevant method of Lebbergott to calculate unemployment when it was neither designed nor meant to portray actual unemployment numbers. It was designed to show how many workers were absent from private industry and did not include government workers.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

...says the President who averaged 20% unemployment for his entire first 2 terms

Thanks to the GOP do nothing regime...

Taking a hand a fiction writing?

Dems owned Congress during the Jihad on Free Enterprise and the Constitution know as the "FDR Presidency"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

At your advanced age, one would imagine that you recognize this truth:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


Prior to the 'Great Depression,' this nation had over thirty economic downturns.
They lasted 1-2 years.

Roosevelt, by design, in order to undermine our nation's foundings, extended the depression by a factor of four or five....along with the agony inflicted on the people.



So....quoting words merely is simply an exercise in what you always do.....lie.

Your point?

The Depression was already going for three years when FDR took office. Hoovers "Prosperity is just around the corner" was a myth...it took FDR to actually DO something

The greatness of FDR was that he realized that the depression was more about the suffering of the poor than about the profits for the rich

My point?

At your advanced age, one would imagine that you recognize this truth:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


Prior to the 'Great Depression,' this nation had over thirty economic downturns.
They lasted 1-2 years.

Roosevelt, by design, in order to undermine our nation's foundings, extended the depression by a factor of four or five times....along with the agony inflicted on the people.



So....quoting words merely is simply an exercise in what you always do.....lie.

The Great Depression was already three years old when FDR took office, so your 1-2 years was already past

FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work and taking care of those who needed it. He really didn't care if stock portfolios returned as quickly as possible

Like FDR said.....People don't eat in the long run

"FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work..."

In that case, he was a horrible failure.


1. Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 andUnemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



2. " “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library


3. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.”

This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

A picture is worth a thousand Political Chic cut and pastes

Yes, FDR really did average 20% Unemployment during his first two terms. See how US finally dips in 1940? Had WWII not started it probably would have gone on as long as he was in office

 

[gipper]

Very good lecture from Mark Weber exposing the lies of FDR and the statists who admire him. If only all Americans would learn and accept the truth about Stalin's Stooge.

 

[Moonglow]

...says the President who averaged 20% unemployment for his entire first 2 terms

Thanks to the GOP do nothing regime...

Taking a hand a fiction writing?

Dems owned Congress during the Jihad on Free Enterprise and the Constitution know as the "FDR Presidency"

Ahem, the depression occurred during GOP Hoover in office,(1929), FDR didn't hit the skids till Jan., 1933.....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

...says the President who averaged 20% unemployment for his entire first 2 terms

Thanks to the GOP do nothing regime...

Taking a hand a fiction writing?

Dems owned Congress during the Jihad on Free Enterprise and the Constitution know as the "FDR Presidency"

Ahem, the depression occurred during GOP Hoover in office,(1929), FDR didn't hit the skids till Jan., 1933.....

Hoover was a Progressive that Coolidge derisively nicknamed "Wonder Boy" for his stupid "Government knows all!" ideas

 

[gipper]

...says the President who averaged 20% unemployment for his entire first 2 terms

Thanks to the GOP do nothing regime...

Taking a hand a fiction writing?

Dems owned Congress during the Jihad on Free Enterprise and the Constitution know as the "FDR Presidency"

Ahem, the depression occurred during GOP Hoover in office,(1929), FDR didn't hit the skids till Jan., 1933.....

Of course fool. No one said otherwise.

Now lets see if you know second grade math...Hoover had 4 years of Great Depression....FDR had 9 years of Great Depression. Which president had more years of Great Depression?

 

[rightwinger]

And he said this, too...

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Seems he lied a lot.....like you.

Did a damned good job didn't he?

Such a great job that he was elected in landslides four straight times

 

[rightwinger]

Your point?

The Depression was already going for three years when FDR took office. Hoovers "Prosperity is just around the corner" was a myth...it took FDR to actually DO something

The greatness of FDR was that he realized that the depression was more about the suffering of the poor than about the profits for the rich

My point?

At your advanced age, one would imagine that you recognize this truth:

Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


Prior to the 'Great Depression,' this nation had over thirty economic downturns.
They lasted 1-2 years.

Roosevelt, by design, in order to undermine our nation's foundings, extended the depression by a factor of four or five times....along with the agony inflicted on the people.



So....quoting words merely is simply an exercise in what you always do.....lie.

The Great Depression was already three years old when FDR took office, so your 1-2 years was already past

FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work and taking care of those who needed it. He really didn't care if stock portfolios returned as quickly as possible

Like FDR said.....People don't eat in the long run

"FDRs policies were directed at easing suffering, putting people back to work..."

In that case, he was a horrible failure.


1. Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gonefrom Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 andUnemployment Statistics during the Great Depression



2. " “We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. And I have just one interest, and if I am wrong…somebody else can have my job. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises…I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started…And an enormous debt to boot!”
Morgenthau Diary, May 9, 1939, Franklin Roosevelt Presidential Library


3. March 4, 1933, in his first Inaugural Address, FDR said “Our greatest primary task is to put people to work.”

This meant that the New Deal was a wretched, ill-conceived failure.

A picture is worth a thousand Political Chic cut and pastes

Yes, FDR really did average 20% Unemployment during his first two terms. See how US finally dips in 1940? Had WWII not started it probably would have gone on as long as he was in office

I don't understand where Conservatives get this "average unemployment" statistic to trot out every time they give an incoming Democrat double digit unemployment