The scandals are falling apart

[Quantum Windbag]

The Right has never gotten it right about President Obama for 6 years. There's no reason to believe they will get this right.

The IRS scandal can't be pinned on Obama, and ironically, the IRS scandal is smothering the Benghazi fake scandal that the inmates were obsessing over.

It is way to early to say whether or not the scandal can be pinned on Obama, but it occurred while he was president, and how he deals with it will be entirely on him. So far I don't see anything to show me he really cares.

And yet you started a thread praising him the other day. What happened, did the USMB inmates' muscle put the arm on you and get you back on the correct page?

lol

I didn't exactly praise anyone, i just pointed out that he did the right thing. He was waffling so bad before the day was over that the press was having trouble keeping it straight.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Ever notice that the Right never fails to sensationalize and exaggerate any incident to the point of absurdity if they think it is favorable to them??

They even fooled Charlie Rangel.

Charlie Rangel: Obama answers not enough - POLITICO.com

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

 

[antiquity]

Ever notice that the Right never fails to sensationalize and exaggerate any incident to the point of absurdity if they think it is favorable to them??

Wow, I guess you must have forgot about Foley, Libby and the housing bubble burst that Democrats created and blamed republicans. You stick to MSNBC and leave the sensationalize and exaggerating to the pros.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

Either your friend is a lying fascist fuckwad, or you just made him up.

 

[antiquity]

Isn't the mainstream media owed by Democrats?

It is until they got shafted by this administration double talk. The AP story is one of them.

 

[syrenn]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

just wondering...


Who was that how resigned from the IRD and why?
What was the name of the president who apologized for the harassment?

if there was "nothing wrong" with what when down....no one would have resigned and no one would have apologized.

 

[mudwhistle]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

A conservative group tried for 17 months to get their 501c status approved to no avail.

They gave up.

Then they changed their name and put "Greenhouse Solutions" in their description. They reapplied.

Their application was approved in 3 weeks.


Link

http://www.nothingbuttruth.com/gate...utions”-–-granted-nonprofit-status-in-3-weeks

 

[Amelia]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

A conservative group tried for 17 months to get their 501c status approved to no avail.

They gave up.

Then they changed their name and put "Green Party" in their description. They reapplied.

Their application was approved in 3 weeks.

lol ... for real?

 

[Esmeralda]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

A conservative group tried for 17 months to get their 501c status approved to no avail.

They gave up.

Then they changed their name and put "Green Party" in their description. They reapplied.

Their application was approved in 3 weeks.

Please cite a reliable source for this.

 

[hortysir]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

A conservative group tried for 17 months to get their 501c status approved to no avail.

They gave up.

Then they changed their name and put "Green Party" in their description. They reapplied.

Their application was approved in 3 weeks.

lol ... for real?

For REALLY reals!
http://www.nothingbuttruth.com/gate...utions”-–-granted-nonprofit-status-in-3-weeks

 

[mudwhistle]

May 16, 2013
Applications for tax exempt status actually declined at time of IRS targeting
Rick Moran

If this is true, it undercuts a major part of the IRS's narrative about why they began to target conservatives in 2010.

Reason Magazine:

Applications for tax exemption from advocacy nonprofits had not yet spiked when the Internal Revenue Service began using what it admits was inappropriate scrutiny of conservative groups in 2010.

In fact, applications were declining, data show.

Top IRS officials have been saying that a "significant increase" in applications from advocacy groups seeking tax-exempt status spurred its Cincinnati office in 2010 to filter those requests by using such politically loaded phrases as "Tea Party," "patriots," and "9/12."

Both Steven Miller, the agency's acting commissioner until he stepped down Wednesday, and Lois Lerner, director of the agency's exempt-organization division, have said over the past week that IRS officials started the scrutiny after observing a surge in applications for status as 501(c)(4) "social welfare" groups. Both officials cited an increase from about 1,500 applications in 2010 and to nearly 3,500 in 2012. President Obama ask Mr. Miller to resign on Wednesday.

The scrutiny began, however, in March 2010, before an uptick could have been observed, according to data contained in the audit released Tuesday from the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration.

Apparently, no one at the IRS has bothered to read the IG report. If they had, they wouldn't have made the spike in applications for tax exempt status the major reason why those "rogue" IRS employees began to flag conservatives for special treatment.

Read more: Blog: Applications for tax exempt status actually declined at time of IRS targeting
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[yidnar]

The scandals are falling apart





Things go wrong in government. Sometimes it’s just bad luck. Sometimes it’s rank incompetence. Sometimes it’s criminal wrongdoing. Most of the time you never hear about it. Or, if you do hear about it, the media eventually gets bored talking about it (see warming, global).


But every so often an instance of government wrongdoing sprouts wings and becomes something quite exciting: A political scandal.


The crucial ingredient for a scandal is the prospect of high-level White House involvement and wide political repercussions. Government wrongdoing is boring. Scandals can bring down presidents, decide elections and revive down-and-out political parties. Scandals can dominate American politics for months at a time.


On Tuesday, it looked like we had three possible political scandals brewing. Two days later, with much more evidence available, it doesn’t look like any of them will pan out. There’ll be more hearings, and more bad press for the Obama administration, and more demands for documents. But — and this is a key qualification — absent more revelations, the scandals that could reach high don’t seem to include any real wrongdoing, whereas the ones that include real wrongdoing don’t reach high enough. Let’s go through them.


1) The Internal Revenue Service: The IRS mess was, well, a mess. But it’s not a mess that implicates the White House, or even senior IRS leadership. If we believe the agency inspector general’s report, a group of employees in a division called the “Determinations Unit” — sounds sinister, doesn’t it? — started giving tea party groups extra scrutiny, were told by agency leadership to knock it off, started doing it again, and then were reined in a second time and told that any further changes to the screening criteria needed to be approved at the highest levels of the agency.


The White House fired the acting director of the agency on the theory that somebody had to be fired and he was about the only guy they had the power to fire. They’re also instructing the IRS to implement each and every one of the IG’s recommendations to make sure this never happens again.


If new information emerges showing a connection between the Determination Unit’s decisions and the Obama campaign, or the Obama administration, it would crack this White House wide open. That would be a genuine scandal. But the IG report says that there’s no evidence of that. And so it’s hard to see where this one goes from here.




Click the link for Benghazi and AP

ohhh no !! we are just now scratching the surface !! if you think we are going to allow the white house to self police you are out of your mind !! there will be independent councils appointed to investigate the criminal activities of that are currently being brought to light !! just because you see your dear leader acting arrogant and smug means nothing !! the white house has its finger prints all over the scandals !! and if you think that these are the only criminal activities going on you are insane [liberal] there is no telling what other scandals will surface as the investigations start !! your leader has lost credibility ....it's over .

 

[Quantum Windbag]

A friend of mine used to be an attorney for the IRS. He has an advanced law degree in taxation from an Ivy League law school and worked for many years within the IRS think tank. I couldn't wait to ask him about this and this is what he said: There is no scandal, there was no wrong doing. There was an inordinate and disproportionate number of applications for 501(c)(4) applications by conservative groups, (who were very unhappy about Obama's win) as opposed to liberal/progressive groups, (who were happy with Obama's win and didn't feel the need to organize).

The IRS is obligated to investigate an application for a 501(c)(4) to insure that it is not politically motivated. They do that with every application since these organizations are seeking non-profit status.

A conservative group tried for 17 months to get their 501c status approved to no avail.

They gave up.

Then they changed their name and put "Green Party" in their description. They reapplied.

Their application was approved in 3 weeks.

Please cite a reliable source for this.

Define reliable.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The current IRS scandal was shocking enough in it’s original form. The most dreaded agency in America purposefully targeting Tea Party groups and other conservatives for audits and inquiries? That’s bad news for every American. If a Democrat administration can do that to conservatives, what’s to stop a Republican administration from doing that to liberals?

It was a low-blow by the IRS, but it seems they are capable of stooping much, much lower. The Thomas Moore Society (a non-profit, public interest law firm) is reporting that the IRS also engaged in blatant bias against pro-life groups.

In one case, the IRS withheld approval of an application for tax exempt status for Coalition for Life of Iowa. In a phone call to Coalition for Life of Iowa leaders on June 6, 2009, the IRS agent “Ms. Richards” told the group to send a letter to the IRS with the entire board’s signatures stating that, under perjury of the law, they do not picket/protest or organize groups to picket or protest outside of Planned Parenthood. Once the IRS received this letter, their application would be approved. After a series of letters following a request for more invasive information, Thomas More Society special counsel Sally Wagenmaker sent a letter to the IRS demanding the tax exempt status be issued immediately.

That’s right – the IRS demanded this pro-life organization promise to refrain from protesting Planned Parenthood (the nation’s largest abortion provider) before they could receive their tax exempt status.

In another case the IRS withheld 501(c)(3) approval from an organization called Christian Voices for Life because of concerns about their connections to other pro-life groups. The Thomas Moore Society has full documentation on both cases.

Not only is the IRS engaging in blatant partisanship, they are also creating a de facto firewall against conservative organizations by making the process of applying for a 501(c)(3) so complicated and arduous that many groups cannot afford the time or the money to navigate the maze of procedure.

This should concern every American, regardless of their politics. If the IRS is allowed to get away with such blatant bigotry, what’s to stop them from wielding their considerable power against any American or group an administration disagrees with in the future?

And let us not forget: these are the people who will be in charge of your healthcare approval in the very near future. Be afraid, America. Be very afraid.

IRS to Pro Life Group: Don't Protest Planned Parenthood | Independent Journal Review


Yeah, the scandals are falling apart. You keep telling yourself that.

 

[Starlight]

Things have gotten so bad for Pres. Obama that, Chris Matthews has lost the thrill that went up his leg when Pres. Obama gave a speech.

Chris Matthews Sours On Obama
By DYLAN BYERS | 5/15/13 7:05 PM EDT

President Obama "obviously likes giving speeches more than he does running the executive branch," Chris Matthews said tonight.

Yes, you read that right: The MSNBC host who in 2008 felt a "thrill going up my leg" after hearing Obama speak has grown disenchanted. Tonight's episode of Hardball saw Matthews delivering a rare, unforgiving grilling of the president as severe as anything that might appear on Fox News.


"What part of the presidency does Obama like? He doesn't like dealing with other politicians -- that means his own cabinet, that means members of the congress, either party. He doesn't particularly like the press.... He likes to write the speeches, likes to rewrite what Favreau and the others wrote for the first draft," Matthews said.

"So what part does he like? He likes going on the road, campaigning, visiting businesses like he does every couple days somewhere in Ohio or somewhere," Matthews continued. "But what part does he like? He doesn't like lobbying for the bills he cares about. He doesn't like selling to the press. He doesn't like giving orders or giving somebody the power to give orders. He doesn't seem to like being an executive.”

On Tuesday's program, Matthews similarly called Obama "a ship with the engine off."

Chris Matthews sours on Obama - POLITICO.com

 

[mudwhistle]

THE BOX STOPS HERE

 

[Obamanation]

The only thing falling apart is the most corrupt Admin. in US history!

 

[Katzndogz]

How did Obama end up with so many underlings who were willing to twist rules and break thumbs without ever consulting him to make sure it's what he would want them to do?

That is a very good question.

This is what happens when a person surrounds themselves with underlings more loyal to him than the country.

 

[Kondor3]

How did Obama end up with so many underlings who were willing to twist rules and break thumbs without ever consulting him to make sure it's what he would want them to do?

That is a very good question.

This is what happens when a person surrounds themselves with underlings more loyal to him than the country.

It's what happens when you have Cult Followers and Groupies... ala the Messianic -fevered, orgiastic demigod worshippers who were so prevalent in the 2008-2009 timeframe... Hopey-Changey... Hopey-Changey... Hopey-Changey... Hopey-Changey...

( and this from someone who voted for Fearless Leader twice as the lesser of two evils )