The simple way to instantly fix health care!!!

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I do not see how vouchers will lower the price of healthcare.

health vouchers would be like money what you don't spend you keep. Now do you understand how this would reduce prices by 80%

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump's plan is a huge bureaucratic libsocialist mess, much like Obamacare, that is hard to understand or support. What could be easily understood, broadly supported, easily understood and implemented, and reduce prices 80% is putting everyone on Medicare, publish prices, and give everyone vouchers to buy health care that could be converted to cash if unspent at the end of the year.

As prices slowly dropped 80%, the govt could reduce the vouchers , and taxes to pay for them, accordingly until eventually most people could afford their own health care.

Isn't Medicare going broke? At least the trust fund for Part A is and the other areas are on shaky financial ground as they depend on revenues. How does your plan fix these fiscal issues? It sounds like they will put more weight on an already unstable system, which I'm not sure was designed to handle the massive amount of people that your plan would bring in.

Yes Medicare is going broke now but by making it capitalist (vouchers and published prices) prices will come down 80% and it will be hugely in surplus.
and which point it will have a huge surplus.

Why would they come down?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

While I agree that this will be the ultimate fix for the problem, funding it is not nearly as easy as you say. Medicare solvency right now extends to about 2030.

when prices come down 80% by making Medicare capitalist will be infinitely solvent. Do you understand??

Again, why would they come down?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

While I agree that this will be the ultimate fix for the problem, funding it is not nearly as easy as you say. Medicare solvency right now extends to about 2030.

when prices come down 80% it will be infinitely solvent. Do you understand??

So costs will drop 80% because you say they will.......and the ACA was going to save families 2500 because the magic negro said they would.
No, sorry.

not because I say so but because of Republican capitalism . Do you understand now?

LOL, no. Nothing works that way son.

are you saying that when people spend their own money and medical people t have to compete on basis of price and quality prices will go up????????????

Who will they be competing against because the government sets how much they get paid?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I have several insurance providers seeking my business.

and so do IBM GM Ford and all are offering them rip off prices. That is why major companies and banding together to get more price leverage against insurance companies. Infinitely better still would be nationally published published prices for health care and 330 million Americans with vouchers. Now do you understand?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So costs will drop 80% because you say they will.......and the ACA was going to save families 2500 because the magic negro said they would.
No, sorry.

not because I say so but because of Republican capitalism . Do you understand now?

LOL, no. Nothing works that way son.

are you saying that when people spend their own money and medical people t have to compete on basis of price and quality prices will go up????????????

Did you want to try his again in English?

why not tell us what you don't understand???

Everything you have posted refers to an 80% price drop that you cannot seem to explain, or at least have not yet!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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Again, why would they come down?[80%]

because people would be shopping very carefully with in effect their own money. Now do you understand?

 

[Doc1]

not because I say so but because of Republican capitalism . Do you understand now?

LOL, no. Nothing works that way son.

are you saying that when people spend their own money and medical people t have to compete on basis of price and quality prices will go up????????????

Did you want to try his again in English?

why not tell us what you don't understand???

Everything you have posted refers to an 80% price drop that you cannot seem to explain, or at least have not yet!

He can't answer that question, he just assumes it will occur.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump's plan is a huge bureaucratic libsocialist mess, much like Obamacare, that is hard to understand or support. What could be easily understood, broadly supported, easily understood and implemented, and reduce prices 80% is putting everyone on Medicare, publish prices, and give everyone vouchers to buy health care that could be converted to cash if unspent at the end of the year.

As prices slowly dropped 80%, the govt could reduce the vouchers , and taxes to pay for them, accordingly until eventually most people could afford their own health care.

Isn't Medicare going broke? At least the trust fund for Part A is and the other areas are on shaky financial ground as they depend on revenues. How does your plan fix these fiscal issues? It sounds like they will put more weight on an already unstable system, which I'm not sure was designed to handle the massive amount of people that your plan would bring in.

No, Medicare is not going broke. GOP says that to privatize i.

are you against privatizing it to reduce medical costs 80%??????????

Since the government sets the reimbursement rates, there is no "competition" to drive costs down.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Again, why would they come down?[80%]

because people would be shopping very carefully with in effect their own money. Now do you understand?

You are making a big assumption. You do know that Medicare has premiums that are paid monthly, deductibles and coinsurance, right?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

when prices come down 80% it will be infinitely solvent. Do you understand??

So costs will drop 80% because you say they will.......and the ACA was going to save families 2500 because the magic negro said they would.
No, sorry.

not because I say so but because of Republican capitalism . Do you understand now?

LOL, no. Nothing works that way son.

are you saying that when people spend their own money and medical people t have to compete on basis of price and quality prices will go up????????????

Who will they be competing against because the government sets how much they get paid?

no under capitalist Medicare prices would be published every 6 months so you'd have national price competition. Make sense?

 

[Doc1]

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Again, why would they come down?[80%]

because people would be shopping very carefully with in effect their own money. Now do you understand?

Have you offered your services to the Gov? You obviously have it all figured out....just ask you.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You are making a big assumption. You do know that Medicare has premiums that are paid monthly, deductibles and coinsurance, right?

sure so what ???????????

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

My wife pays 430 dollars a month for a silver plan and I pay 122 a month for medicare and 0 for an advantage plan. You can't tell me that the insurance companies make up the 300 dollar difference.

total apple and orange comparison given that Medicare is welfare paid for by taxes and trust fund and private is totally different?

Medicare is NOT welfare! No wonder you are confused and have a screwed up idea!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

You obviously have it all figured out....just ask you.

if you do't get it just ask

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

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Medicare is NOT welfare! No wonder you are confused and have a screwed up idea!

why screwed up exactly??????????????

 

[Doc1]

You obviously have it all figured out....just ask you.

if you do't get it just ask

There's nothing to "get" son, you have no idea as to what you're talking about.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are making a big assumption. You do know that Medicare has premiums that are paid monthly, deductibles and coinsurance, right?

sure so what ???????????

People will still be paying out of pocket even if they never go to the doctor. Medicare's premiums are already $109 per month. For a family of four, that is probably more expensive than Obamacare.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

reduce prices 80% is putting everyone on Medicare, publish prices, and give everyone vouchers to buy health care that could be converted to cash if unspent at the end of the year.

As prices slowly dropped 80%, the govt could reduce the vouchers , and taxes to pay for them, accordingly until eventually most people could afford their own health care.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Medicare is NOT welfare! No wonder you are confused and have a screwed up idea!

why screwed up exactly??????????????

Medicare is not welfare. Can you not understand that?