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Anyone else notice that when we get into a discussion of these guns, it ends up being about warfare action? That's because these guns were designed for WAR. Civilians don't need them. You can shoot a thug with a gun that shoots a maximum of 5 bullets at a load, just as easily as a gun that sprays 20 or 30 bullets as fast as you can pull the trigger. Forget the fantasy that anyone is going to stop the government if it decides to declare war on you.Hilarious. Explain what Japan or Germany would have done with no navy, airforce, or tanks. Japan had a number of rapid fire light and heavy machine guns, as did the Germans. The German MG42 had a fire rate of 1200 rounds per/min and Alllied troops were terrified of this weapon. The German Gewehr 43 was similar to the M1 Garand but had a larger 10 round magazine.
You can entertain your fantasies but don't try to alter history to fit your worldview.
Yes, Japan had numerous machineguns that all fired from clips or magazines. In fact a couple of them even mounted optical sights and mounted bayonets. The Germans did indeed have the MG42 and 34, and yes they were outstanding weapons for their era (hell the MG42 is still arguably the finest GPMG ever designed), the G-43 is nowhere near as good as the Garand (I own examples of both) and those they had were few and far between.
Regardless, what he is stating is factual. The tanks and airplanes are good at blowing stuff up but without the troops on the ground you can't hold anything, so yes, the Japanese and German armies OVERWHELMINGLY armed with bolt actioned rifles conquered huge tracts of territory. Your pathetic uueducated effort to deflect from that fact is duly noted.
Hey you know how to 'duly note' things. Good for you, did you get a gold star when you learned that?
Your whining changes nothing. Dorp suggested a bolt action rifle won something in WW2. Ludicrous to even a 6 year old. That you think the same betrays your ignorance of warfare, something common for conservatives. You do your best to 'mitigate' the ridiculousness of the statement he made by saying "troops on the ground" (a dishonest attempt to say dorp meant troops with mg's). Unfortunately you could have 1000 troops with bolt action rifles rush headlong at a few guys with machine guns and 1000 dead guys with their bolt action rifles will be lying on the ground come daylight.
Go look up the images of the battles on GuadalCanal. This is exactly what happened to the Japanese and their magical bolt action rifles. A few marines with machine guns piled them up like cord wood. Over and over.
And while you are at it read about Blitzkrieg. Nothing in there about 'bolt action rifles'.
It ain't a fantasy as it has actually happened. Even within your lifetime, so you are simply ignorant and wrong.
Please 'enlighten' us on how a population armed with semi-auto rifles is going to fight our military and do anything but lose within a week.
And now comes the 'but what about this and what about that'. And none of it will have to do with the almighty use of semi-auto rifles winning anything. Those days ended over 110 years ago.
Anyone else notice that when we get into a discussion of these guns, it ends up being about warfare action? That's because these guns were designed for WAR. Civilians don't need them. You can shoot a thug with a gun that shoots a maximum of 5 bullets at a load, just as easily as a gun that sprays 20 or 30 bullets as fast as you can pull the trigger. Forget the fantasy that anyone is going to stop the government if it decides to declare war on you.Hilarious. Explain what Japan or Germany would have done with no navy, airforce, or tanks. Japan had a number of rapid fire light and heavy machine guns, as did the Germans. The German MG42 had a fire rate of 1200 rounds per/min and Alllied troops were terrified of this weapon. The German Gewehr 43 was similar to the M1 Garand but had a larger 10 round magazine.
You can entertain your fantasies but don't try to alter history to fit your worldview.
Yes, Japan had numerous machineguns that all fired from clips or magazines. In fact a couple of them even mounted optical sights and mounted bayonets. The Germans did indeed have the MG42 and 34, and yes they were outstanding weapons for their era (hell the MG42 is still arguably the finest GPMG ever designed), the G-43 is nowhere near as good as the Garand (I own examples of both) and those they had were few and far between.
Regardless, what he is stating is factual. The tanks and airplanes are good at blowing stuff up but without the troops on the ground you can't hold anything, so yes, the Japanese and German armies OVERWHELMINGLY armed with bolt actioned rifles conquered huge tracts of territory. Your pathetic uueducated effort to deflect from that fact is duly noted.
Hey you know how to 'duly note' things. Good for you, did you get a gold star when you learned that?
Your whining changes nothing. Dorp suggested a bolt action rifle won something in WW2. Ludicrous to even a 6 year old. That you think the same betrays your ignorance of warfare, something common for conservatives. You do your best to 'mitigate' the ridiculousness of the statement he made by saying "troops on the ground" (a dishonest attempt to say dorp meant troops with mg's). Unfortunately you could have 1000 troops with bolt action rifles rush headlong at a few guys with machine guns and 1000 dead guys with their bolt action rifles will be lying on the ground come daylight.
Go look up the images of the battles on GuadalCanal. This is exactly what happened to the Japanese and their magical bolt action rifles. A few marines with machine guns piled them up like cord wood. Over and over.
And while you are at it read about Blitzkrieg. Nothing in there about 'bolt action rifles'.
It ain't a fantasy as it has actually happened. Even within your lifetime, so you are simply ignorant and wrong.
Please 'enlighten' us on how a population armed with semi-auto rifles is going to fight our military and do anything but lose within a week.
And now comes the 'but what about this and what about that'. And none of it will have to do with the almighty use of semi-auto rifles winning anything. Those days ended over 110 years ago.
What if he used a pump shot gun with 00 buck shot, he would have killed even more people.If you have a machine shop and the skills necessary to create the parts that will fit in a precision machine, you probably could. And no, "most people" could certainly not produce the parts necessry to make the AR-15 fully automatic. But "most people" could certainly create a bomb that would kill far more people.
Was the rifle used by Holmes a fully automatic weapon?
Most people would just buy those parts at a gun show or on line.
Doesn't matter if holmes had a fully auto matic weapon or not. the fact he had a semi-automatic weapon with the power it had is the problem. 12 people died and anther 60 wer wounded, and you guys are okay with this.
I'm not.
No...he went to a gun free zone where a lot of people were in the dark, in a confined space where movement was tightly constricted by the lay out of the seating, with the complete element of surprise...again, against completely unarmed people...........he could have achieved the same end with 6 shot revolvers asswipe........
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
You really don't know anything about guns or using them do you.....? If you did you wouldn't post the garbage you just posted....
AR 15 is the kiddie version of the M16 A1 assault rifle used by the military. You cant go full auto with it (unless you get a kit).The AR-15 was designed by the Army to kill Vietcong in the jungles of Vietnam.
It has no business in private hands. Period.
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
You really don't know anything about guns or using them do you.....? If you did you wouldn't post the garbage you just posted....
You don't know anything about guns, the military, or history. Your world is a swirl of feeling and memes and how you make yourself feel good and powerful in the face of something you cannot defeat. Be happy, cling to your myths. But they are myths. Adults live in the real world.
Good lord the delusions are rampant.
Yes let us consider a million snipers against a platoon of M1A1 tanks, with Apache and A10 support, B52's, F18's, drones, cruise missilles, the marines, army, and navy.
More than anything it is sad the people that think they and their rifle will be the modern day minuteman. Those days ended more than a century ago kids. If we had to fight our own military there is no fight. Iraq had 500,000 men, thousands of artillery pieces, 700 aircraft, and hundreds of tanks. Our military went through them like a hot knife through melted butter in 4 days.
The American population has single shot rifles. Let's say they were all converted to auto-fire. Makes no difference. You really need to stop clinging to this fantasy and accept the reality and maybe try to solve it once you see the reality.
You really don't know anything about guns or using them do you.....? If you did you wouldn't post the garbage you just posted....
You don't know anything about guns, the military, or history. Your world is a swirl of feeling and memes and how you make yourself feel good and powerful in the face of something you cannot defeat. Be happy, cling to your myths. But they are myths. Adults live in the real world.
AR 15 is the kiddie version of the M16 A1 assault rifle used by the military. You cant go full auto with it (unless you get a kit).The AR-15 was designed by the Army to kill Vietcong in the jungles of Vietnam.
It has no business in private hands. Period.
Still the kiddie version of M16 without the kit.AR 15 is the kiddie version of the M16 A1 assault rifle used by the military. You cant go full auto with it (unless you get a kit).The AR-15 was designed by the Army to kill Vietcong in the jungles of Vietnam.
It has no business in private hands. Period.
No...they AR-15 is a reliable civilian weapon used for self defense by both police and civilians........
AR 15 is the kiddie version of the M16 A1 assault rifle used by the military. You cant go full auto with it (unless you get a kit).The AR-15 was designed by the Army to kill Vietcong in the jungles of Vietnam.
It has no business in private hands. Period.
Still the kiddie version of M16 without the kit.AR 15 is the kiddie version of the M16 A1 assault rifle used by the military. You cant go full auto with it (unless you get a kit).The AR-15 was designed by the Army to kill Vietcong in the jungles of Vietnam.
It has no business in private hands. Period.
No...they AR-15 is a reliable civilian weapon used for self defense by both police and civilians........
Anything I type is using the keyboard intelligently. Your post was a perfect example of being lame.Still the kiddie version of M16 without the kit.AR 15 is the kiddie version of the M16 A1 assault rifle used by the military. You cant go full auto with it (unless you get a kit).The AR-15 was designed by the Army to kill Vietcong in the jungles of Vietnam.
It has no business in private hands. Period.
No...they AR-15 is a reliable civilian weapon used for self defense by both police and civilians........
Yeah....try to use your key board intelligently.....that post was a poor example....
I'd love to see proof of your expertise on these issues.You don't know anything about guns, the military, or history. Your world is a swirl of feeling and memes and how you make yourself feel good and powerful in the face of something you cannot defeat. Be happy, cling to your myths. But they are myths. Adults live in the real world.
