The U.S. and NATO Helped Trigger the Ukraine War.

[ClaireH]

Do you know that Ukraine is the number three biggest exporter of grain to the world? Prior to February 24 Ukraine’s access to the world through the ports in Odessa. Just up the road from the Russian advance through Crimea.

Both Russia and Ukraine are two of the largest wheat exporters in the world, together accounting for between a quarter and over a third of the world's wheat supply. Putin can cut off Ukraine’s ability to ship grain by sea if they take ODESSA.

Do you really know PUTIN’s genocide is about NATO? He wants to control shipment of grain to a third of the world.

Do you know that the United States has given the Ukrainian government $1 billion over the last year? $1 billion that should have gone to helping veterans in need (including homeless) and children living on the streets who happen to be Americans. For a quick monetary comparison:

GPD for Homeless Veterans with Special Needs: GPD for homeless veterans with special needs, authorized at $5 million through FY2022, targets GPD funds to specific groups of veterans, including women, elderly veterans, terminally or mentally ill veterans, and veterans with children.”

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10167

Do you expect the US to provide $1 billion to military aid to a foreign country where most of the money for weaponry will likely be captured? Just look at what happened at after we left Iraq, and then left Syria, and then Afghanistan. Where did the costly weaponry go do you think, or do you know? You believe the bulk of the money went to providing “humanitarian assistance?” No, it did not in any case. Individual Americans and charities give more money than the US government provides to assist various countries in need. Wake up and see the light.

US needs to clean up our own backyard starting with the security issue along the southern border. I wonder why Biden’s handlers didn’t decide to throw $1 billion to do something about the border fiasco, requiring Texas to step up to take their own measures to arrest and deport human traffickers and drug runners. You need to switch your sales tactics as you’re a very poor salesman.

 

[eagle1462010]

Because unlike Russia, which uses evil bombs to protect its interests on its borders, the United States uses bombs of goodness and democracy on the other side of the globe. Bombs of goodness and democracy do not kill, and if they kill and maim, it does not hurt. I'm with you on this issue.

Our bombs and guns kill the hell out of those who get in our path or attack the world trade centers...........

Our military is handcuffed by our BS politicians who like long drawn out wars......Anyways they get us stuck in the sandy regions of the world so they can make money off the weapons manufacturers..............Basically scum

Your side ARMS THE OTHER SIDE..........You are NO ANGELS..........We have been fighting each other with our weapons since WWII. This is NOTHING NEW.


Given that.........what I need to know is your INTENTIONS to us................and with BRICS............and other nations you seek to DESTROY US financially even though we are very good at doing that to ourselves..............When we GO DOWN you and China will REJOICE and then try to be the world dominant countries and dominant militaries.

Aka YOUR GOAL IS TO TAKE US DOWN..........So to HELL WITH YOU......even though I can't stand our establishment politicians and think most need to be tarred and feathered.

 

[eagle1462010]

US support nazis. Russia fights them.

And you prove that with WHAT............No one here trusts ANY MEDIA ANY MORE........

Ukraine is fighting you like hell.........if they wanted to join Russia they would have thrown you flowers.

 

[gipper]

How could NATO have avoided this war?

You can’t be serious with that question. You’re joking right?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Do you know that the United States has given the Ukrainian government $1 billion over the last year?

We democracy loving true Americans should have been spending a billion a year arming Ukraine after we saw Putin murder civilians in Aleppo in 2016 and nobody could stop him.

It’s very difficult to figure out what a sociopath will do, however.

 

[gipper]

Do you know that the United States has given the Ukrainian government $1 billion over the last year? $1 billion that should have gone to helping veterans in need (including homeless) and children living on the streets who happen to be Americans. For a quick monetary comparison:

GPD for Homeless Veterans with Special Needs: GPD for homeless veterans with special needs, authorized at $5 million through FY2022, targets GPD funds to specific groups of veterans, including women, elderly veterans, terminally or mentally ill veterans, and veterans with children.”

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF10167

Do you expect the US to provide $1 billion to military aid to a foreign country where most of the money for weaponry will likely be captured? Just look at what happened at after we left Iraq, and then left Syria, and then Afghanistan. Where did the costly weaponry go do you think, or do you know? You believe the bulk of the money went to providing “humanitarian assistance?” No, it did not in any case. Individual Americans and charities give more money than the US government provides to assist various countries in need. Wake up and see the light.

US needs to clean up our own backyard starting with the security issue along the southern border. I wonder why Biden’s handlers didn’t decide to throw $1 billion to do something about the border fiasco, requiring Texas to step up to take their own measures to arrest and deport human traffickers and drug runners. You need to switch your sales tactics as you’re a very poor salesman.

It is appalling how corrupt our country has become. We have millions of Americans suffering in poverty, and our government is provoking war on the other side of the world no America gives a shit about.

How any American can’t understand that our government is controlled by unelected forces is beyond me.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You can’t be serious with that question. You’re joking right?

I am serious because none of you isolationists I have an answer.

 

[gipper]

We democracy loving true Americans should have been spending a billion a year arming Ukraine after we saw Putin murder civilians in Aleppo in 2016 and nobody could stop him.

It’s very difficult to figure out what a sociopath will do, however.

Do you think Ukraine is a democracy?

 

[gipper]

I am serious because none of you isolationists I have an answer.

The answer has been given to you many times. Its not hard my son.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

The answer has been given to you many times. Its not hard my son.

And your answer was shot down by me and others.

 

[gipper]

And your answer was shot down by me and others.

You really don’t know? No NATO for Ukraine. See? Easy. No?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Do you think Ukraine is a democracy?

I know Ukraine is a democracy. Much more of a democracy than we have been if late in terms of patriots who would give their lives for it.

MAGA losers hate democracy they want white autocracy.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You really don’t know? No NATO for Ukraine. See? Easy. No?

Because Ukraine was not in the NATO alliance on February 24, Putin had to be more concerned about the Nazis in Ukraine and a militarized Ukraine

 

[gipper]

I know Ukraine is a democracy. Much more of a democracy than we have been if late in terms of patriots who would give their lives for it.

MAGA losers hate democracy they want white autocracy.

Lol. I knew it. You think this war is about Trump. Jesus dude. You’re fucked up.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

You think this war is about Trump

Trump says this war is about Trump because Putin would not start it if Trump was President.

 

[beagle9]

Do you know that Ukraine is the number three biggest exporter of grain to the world? Prior to February 24 Ukraine’s access to the world through the ports in Odessa. Just up the road from the Russian advance through Crimea.

Both Russia and Ukraine are two of the largest wheat exporters in the world, together accounting for between a quarter and over a third of the world's wheat supply. Putin can cut off Ukraine’s ability to ship grain by sea if they take ODESSA.

Do you really know PUTIN’s genocide is about NATO? He wants to control shipment of grain to a third of the world.

You think that Putin's attack on Ukraine is actually an attack on NATO eh ?? Well we'll never know because Zelensky is going to whoop that PUTIN with his militarized citizen's, and his military, and push him back behind his border's where he belongs. Glad NATO was never in any danger whoooooooo... That was a close one.

Oh wait, Zelensky has tried everything possible to get NATO to fight this war for him, but that didn't work either. Now what ??

Maybe Zelinksky leaving the country with his cabinet in order to save it maybe ? The problem with power, is that it is attempted to be held onto without regard to life, property or security of the nation on whole.

Without NATO it is fruitless for Ukraine to hold, because if it comes down to it Russia will resort to mass destruction from the air. Not sure how Ukraine will hold up against that kind of all out assault. High level bomber's are no joke, especially along with everything else involved. Whatever the issue is between Russia and Ukraine, I suggest that someone blink before all is lost. Anything can be worked out if they try, but there has to be give by both parties involved.

 

[beagle9]

Trump says this war is about Trump because Putin would not start it if Trump was President.

He does have the record to prove it.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

He does have the record to prove it.

It is absurd to suggest that Putin “feared” Trump while Trump was in office.

If Putin didn’t fear Biden he sure as hell should have. If you think Putin was prepared militarily and economically for his attempt to overthrow the Jewish Nazi’s government in Kiev to succeed against Joe Biden’s America you are too far gone to be listened to.

 

[beagle9]

It is absurd to suggest that Putin “feared” Trump while Trump was in office.

If Putin didn’t fear Biden he sure as hell should have. If you think Putin was prepared militarily and economically for his attempt to overthrow the Jewish Nazi’s government in Kiev to succeed against Joe Biden’s America you are too far gone to be listened to.

4 year's, no wars.... Deal with it.

Oh and attempting to put word's in my mouth by saying things not suggested or was said is a classic tactic of leftist, along with constantly moving the goal post if and when called out on such things.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

4 year's, no wars..

means nothing actually. Putin is in sole control of Russia’s destiny. Nothing suggests he restrained his sociopathic aggression based on fear that Trump would react tougher on him than Joe Biden.