The U.S. and other nations have no definition of victory in Ukraine

[rightwinger]

In other words sacrifice more Ukrainians, promote imperialism, and enrich the billionaires in the war machine. Dumb.

Ukraine is fighting for their freedom
They can decide when they no longer want our weapons

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Putin created the war

Let him deal with the consequences

No, we were in there meddling before putin invaded.

 

[gipper]

Ukraine is fighting for their freedom
They can decide when they no longer want our weapons

Lol. Dumb as always.

You know nothing of the history nor the criminal actions of your beloved government to instigate and continue this awful war.

 

[gipper]

No, we were in there meddling before putin invaded.

He knows nothing of this. Genocide Joe said it was unprovoked. He believes Genocide Joe.

 

[gipper]

Another confused lover of war who can't comprehend how someone can question spending hundreds of billions in ukraine and despise putin at the same time.

He’s an idiot. So there’s that.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

He’s an idiot. So there’s that.

They've adopted shrubs "yer either fer us or against us".

 

[rightwinger]

Lol. Dumb as always.

You know nothing of the history nor the criminal actions of your beloved government to instigate and continue this awful war.

I know an unprovoked invasion when I see one

 

[SeaMajor7]

"We've always been at war with Eastasia."

 

[Rambunctious]

If Biden wanted these wars to stop they would stop.... every day they go on more people die... but Joe is headed for the beach a day early to practice for a debate with Trump....
Just how evil and sick has America become....

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Ukraine gains victory when Belgorod becomes Uki.

 

[Mac1958]

are you a "know nothing. of course know what we want. we want russia behind their own borders without a wider destruction than already exists.

like every other sane person in america.

MAGA has made it pretty clear, they're with Putin.

They love their dictators.

 

[bendog]

Putin's "negotiation": Give me land we haven't even won yet. I'm trying to save face here after this massive fuckup.

Z's "negotiation": Get out of our country. Fuck off.

I question why new posters would take up this issue.

Biden and Nato have repeatedly said they won't try to force Ukraine into "a peace" they don't want. But we don't need an exit strategy because BIDEN HASN'T PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

 

[Rambunctious]

Putin created the war

Let him deal with the consequences

Putin started the war... we made it possible... we encouraged it... we didn't try and prevent it.... we are profiting from it and we are extending it....

 

[martybegan]

Victory in Ukraine?

Engage Putin in an endless war that the Russian economy can’t support
Force Russia to expend military equipment and personnel that it can’t replace
Destabilize Putin to force a revolution or military coup

It seems to be weathering the storm so far.
They have piles of old equipment they can throw into the fire
And get someone even more hardcore maybe?

 

[martybegan]

I question why new posters would take up this issue.

Biden and Nato have repeatedly said they won't try to force Ukraine into "a peace" they don't want. But we don't need an exit strategy because BIDEN HASN'T PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND.

We need an exit strategy for our funding and emptying of our military stockpiles.

 

[bendog]

MAGA has made it pretty clear, they're with Putin.

They love their dictators.

I have to agree, but I don't want to. I saw reasons why people would vote Trump in 16. I might have but I'd spent time in NYC when Trump was .... NOT HELPFUL to people living together

And then Jan 6, and I'd rather not vote at all than vote for Trump. There's a reason we take our kids to sporting events and teach them to man up (or woman up?) when we lose.

 

[OldFlame]

That's because it's nothing but a big money laundering scheme for governments around the world. especially ours.

Keep cheering on the corruption like the blind fools you are.

 

[OldFlame]

MAGA has made it pretty clear, they're with Putin.

They love their dictators.

Lying piece of shit.

 

[bendog]

We need an exit strategy for our funding and emptying of our military stockpiles.

WE don't need an exit strategy because we can stop whenever we want to since BIDEN has not put boots on the ground. But having seen Ukraine fight against all odds to retain independence .... I don't think cutting bait is the right thing to do.

 

[otto105]

The Russo–Ukrainian war continues. Although Russia’s President Vladimir Putin has indicated an interest in negotiation, the Biden administration has escalated the fighting, most recently by permitting the use of American weapons to strike targets within Russia. Europe’s vocal war party is pushing for even more.
The stakes were evident when Putin expanded military forces along Ukraine’s border in late 2021. NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg admitted: “The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.… So he went to war to prevent NATO, more NATO, close to his borders.”
In March 2022, even Zelensky acknowledged as much: “Security guarantees and neutrality, the nuclear-free status of our state. We are ready to agree to it. This is the most important point. This was the first fundamental point for the Russian Federation, as far as I remember. And as far as I remember, they started a war because of this.” Yet the U.S. helped torpedo Russo–Ukrainian negotiations.The continuing war is an obvious disaster for the participants, most importantly Ukraine, since it provides most of the battlefield. The ongoing war is a human catastrophe. Simply giving more aid in hopes that something good will result is not a strategy. This approach ensures continued death and destruction and risks military escalation and expansion.

Derp

The goal is to remove russian vodka forces from all Ukrainian territory.

The goal of any convict regime would be you give large parts of it to a communist.

Is that clear.