The U.S. NOT founded upon Christianity

[peach174]

See this is what happens, look at how many have not been taught our full American history on this subject, when Madeline Murray O'Hair (an Atheist) got religion out of the public schools in 1963.
Once again minority ruling over the majority. It has done great harm.
We have many who have not been taught the full history of America. When God was taken out of the schools, the History of America was severely limited in what was taught because so much of our history had God referenced in it. Then it had to be rewritten so that basic history of America could be taught.
You who do not think that we are founded in Christianity need to go a library and read American History books written before 1963 and you will see the reference throughout those books about how much God and Christianity guided this nation.
When this ruling happened many said that this would dummy down our children's learning of our history. It certainly has come true.
It is absolutely shameful at how ignorant our children have become in our Christian heritage and foundation of America.

Can you provide a reference where God and Christianity guided the nation? Where history has been changed?

I just told you, go to a public library and read some american history books written before 1963.

 

[AllieBaba]

See this is what happens, look at how many have not been taught our full American history on this subject, when Madeline Murray O'Hair (an Atheist) got religion out of the public schools in 1963.
Once again minority ruling over the majority. It has done great harm.
We have many who have not been taught the full history of America. When God was taken out of the schools, the History of America was severely limited in what was taught because so much of our history had God referenced in it. Then it had to be rewritten so that basic history of America could be taught.
You who do not think that we are founded in Christianity need to go a library and read American History books written before 1963 and you will see the reference throughout those books about how much God and Christianity guided this nation.
When this ruling happened many said that this would dummy down our children's learning of our history. It certainly has come true.
It is absolutely shameful at how ignorant our children have become in our Christian heritage and foundation of America.

Can you provide a reference where God and Christianity guided the nation? Where history has been changed?

This thread is FULL of quotes that show the founding fathers were guided by their Christian faith, liewinger.

 

[peach174]

See this is what happens, look at how many have not been taught our full American history on this subject, when Madeline Murray O'Hair (an Atheist) got religion out of the public schools in 1963.
Once again minority ruling over the majority. It has done great harm.
We have many who have not been taught the full history of America. When God was taken out of the schools, the History of America was severely limited in what was taught because so much of our history had God referenced in it. Then it had to be rewritten so that basic history of America could be taught.
You who do not think that we are founded in Christianity need to go a library and read American History books written before 1963 and you will see the reference throughout those books about how much God and Christianity guided this nation.
When this ruling happened many said that this would dummy down our children's learning of our history. It certainly has come true.
It is absolutely shameful at how ignorant our children have become in our Christian heritage and foundation of America.

A fairy tale. Were you born before 1963?

Yes ,way before 1963.
Not a fairy tale, actual fact, like I said, go to a library and read anything written before 63 on American history. You will see how much has been omitted and rewritten.

 

[AllieBaba]

Gadawg doesn't clutter his mind with fact or waste time on research.

He gets everything he needs to know from left wing news outlets and his own fantasies.

 

[bodecea]

See this is what happens, look at how many have not been taught our full American history on this subject, when Madeline Murray O'Hair (an Atheist) got religion out of the public schools in 1963.
Once again minority ruling over the majority. It has done great harm.
We have many who have not been taught the full history of America. When God was taken out of the schools, the History of America was severely limited in what was taught because so much of our history had God referenced in it. Then it had to be rewritten so that basic history of America could be taught.
You who do not think that we are founded in Christianity need to go a library and read American History books written before 1963 and you will see the reference throughout those books about how much God and Christianity guided this nation.
When this ruling happened many said that this would dummy down our children's learning of our history. It certainly has come true.
It is absolutely shameful at how ignorant our children have become in our Christian heritage and foundation of America.

It must be sad to have a god so weak that they can be pushed out of the hearts and minds of people by one woman.

 

[bodecea]

See this is what happens, look at how many have not been taught our full American history on this subject, when Madeline Murray O'Hair (an Atheist) got religion out of the public schools in 1963.
Once again minority ruling over the majority. It has done great harm.
We have many who have not been taught the full history of America. When God was taken out of the schools, the History of America was severely limited in what was taught because so much of our history had God referenced in it. Then it had to be rewritten so that basic history of America could be taught.
You who do not think that we are founded in Christianity need to go a library and read American History books written before 1963 and you will see the reference throughout those books about how much God and Christianity guided this nation.
When this ruling happened many said that this would dummy down our children's learning of our history. It certainly has come true.
It is absolutely shameful at how ignorant our children have become in our Christian heritage and foundation of America.

Can you provide a reference where God and Christianity guided the nation? Where history has been changed?

This thread is FULL of quotes that show the founding fathers were guided by their Christian faith, liewinger.

No, they are cute little quotes, but where is the PROOF that they put that so-called faith into our Nation's framework, Allie? You have given us NO proof yet...here:

PROOF that the Christian faith of founders were put into our nation's framework:

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and how many more items of proof you can come up with

 

[bodecea]

See this is what happens, look at how many have not been taught our full American history on this subject, when Madeline Murray O'Hair (an Atheist) got religion out of the public schools in 1963.
Once again minority ruling over the majority. It has done great harm.
We have many who have not been taught the full history of America. When God was taken out of the schools, the History of America was severely limited in what was taught because so much of our history had God referenced in it. Then it had to be rewritten so that basic history of America could be taught.
You who do not think that we are founded in Christianity need to go a library and read American History books written before 1963 and you will see the reference throughout those books about how much God and Christianity guided this nation.
When this ruling happened many said that this would dummy down our children's learning of our history. It certainly has come true.
It is absolutely shameful at how ignorant our children have become in our Christian heritage and foundation of America.

A fairy tale. Were you born before 1963?

Yes ,way before 1963.
Not a fairy tale, actual fact, like I said, go to a library and read anything written before 63 on American history. You will see how much has been omitted and rewritten.

Care to give us some examples?

 

[bodecea]

Gadawg doesn't clutter his mind with fact or waste time on research.

He gets everything he needs to know from left wing news outlets and his own fantasies.

Ah, going personal is a distinct indication that you've got nothing......all those blank lists I've given you to fill are another distinct indication of your lack of content.

Care to neg rep me again for speaking the Truth? Feel free....it's getting to be badges of honor, like getting multiple Navy Achievement Medals.

 

[AllieBaba]

Can you provide a reference where God and Christianity guided the nation? Where history has been changed?

This thread is FULL of quotes that show the founding fathers were guided by their Christian faith, liewinger.

No, they are cute little quotes, but where is the PROOF that they put that so-called faith into our Nation's framework, Allie? You have given us NO proof yet...here:

PROOF that the Christian faith of founders were put into our nation's framework:

1.

2.

3.

4.

and how many more items of proof you can come up with

I'd say that when the founding fathers SAY they are framing the country on christian principle, that's the proof.

It's a shame you don't understand how this works, troll.

 

[AllieBaba]

Gadawg doesn't clutter his mind with fact or waste time on research.

He gets everything he needs to know from left wing news outlets and his own fantasies.

Ah, going personal is a distinct indication that you've got nothing......all those blank lists I've given you to fill are another distinct indication of your lack of content.

Care to neg rep me again for speaking the Truth? Feel free....it's getting to be badges of honor, like getting multiple Navy Achievement Medals.

I'm out of rep, but never fear. I always neg liars and trolls for shitting all over history.

 

[bodecea]

This thread is FULL of quotes that show the founding fathers were guided by their Christian faith, liewinger.

No, they are cute little quotes, but where is the PROOF that they put that so-called faith into our Nation's framework, Allie? You have given us NO proof yet...here:

PROOF that the Christian faith of founders were put into our nation's framework:

1.

2.

3.

4.

and how many more items of proof you can come up with

I'd say that when the founding fathers SAY they are framing the country on christian principle, that's the proof.

It's a shame you don't understand how this works, troll.

You can say you are a Christian, but the proof is in what you write....there is no proof in any of your writing here that you are a practicing Christian, in other words, your talk is cheap...

There is no proof in any of the Country's written framework that our government was built on Christian Principles.....unless you can list those Christian principles in our country's framework for us:

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etc.

 

[AllieBaba]

The proof doesn't have to be in the Constitution. We have been over this already. The foundation of the country does not reside solely in the constitution. It is also considerations that were taken prior to the development of that document, when the ff were discussing how they wanted to structure the country.

And they concluded, en masse, that they could not found a country without Christian principle. Which is why they reference God in the Declaration, and why they seem to have unanimously have claimed that they founded it in Christian principle.

You can't get away from the words of the men themselves. They founded the country, they said they were applying Christian principle, that they could not create a free country without it. THAT IS THE FOUNDATION upon which this country AND THE CONSTITUTION was laid. No there is no reference to God in the Constitution because WE AREN'T A THEOCRACY. That's a separate issue, and one that is not being debated.

So despite the ad hominem, despite the red herring, false premise and trolling, you can't get rid of the evidence. There is no question, despite your attempts to change history. The founding fathers based this country on Christian tenets. At least that's what they said, ad nauseum, and that is what we have to believe. I know you want to disregard them, and the Declaration...but too bad. Until you get the opportunity to actually get rid of those pesky records, you are just going to have to face the fact this is a ridiculous argument that you can't win because, well, you're lying and the evidence proves you're lying.

And trying to change the discussion so that it's just a discussion of whether or not this is a theocracy (it's not) and whether or not God is mentioned in the Constitution is not only dishonest, it's ignorant. While you may be easily befuddled with regards to the topic, I am not. If you want to pretend there's some sort of claim that we're a theocracy, you go right ahead and argue that. But stop pretending that claiming that the country was founded on Christian principles (as the founding fathers unanimously said) and claiming that we are or should be a theocracy are the same thing. They aren't. It's a false premise, and nobody except you has made the claim.

 

[peach174]

You can look at all of our historical documents and see the reference to Christianity.


American Thinker: The Judeo-Christian Values of America

 

[AllieBaba]

It's already been posted. This is just the attempt by the left to subvert history and replace it, based on what they want people to believe about this country.

Ultimately, it's about changing the country to a socialist country. Since they are a minority, the only way they can do that is to lie about our history and pretend we've ALWAYS been socialist.

 

[bodecea]

I ask again...what Christian Principles/Tenets are imbedded in our Nation/our government:

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And let's forgo the lip service, ok? I want to see substantial facts of our government and or our government's actions....people can say anything they want...it's what is in the law and the country's actions that count.

So, let's see it.

 

[bodecea]

It's already been posted. This is just the attempt by the left to subvert history and replace it, based on what they want people to believe about this country.

Ultimately, it's about changing the country to a socialist country. Since they are a minority, the only way they can do that is to lie about our history and pretend we've ALWAYS been socialist.

Replace WHAT exactly? You have YET to give any Christian principles that were/are IN OUR COUNTRY's government.

Not one.

Still waiting for that list:

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etc.

 

[bodecea]

You can look at all of our historical documents and see the reference to Christianity.


American Thinker: The Judeo-Christian Values of America

References...how nice. People can say anything they like to pander to any crowd they want to....where is the Christian tenets in our early government?

Here...list them:

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etc.

 

[bodecea]

Gadawg doesn't clutter his mind with fact or waste time on research.

He gets everything he needs to know from left wing news outlets and his own fantasies.

Ah, going personal is a distinct indication that you've got nothing......all those blank lists I've given you to fill are another distinct indication of your lack of content.

Care to neg rep me again for speaking the Truth? Feel free....it's getting to be badges of honor, like getting multiple Navy Achievement Medals.

I'm out of rep, but never fear. I always neg liars and trolls for shitting all over history.

And how is history being shit all over....

Give examples...factual examples plz

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etc.

 

[AllieBaba]

You shit on history just like you shit on every thread you hijack. When you ignore fact and truth and replace it with propaganda and slime.

BTW, again....the Christianity/religion of the ff is not in question and has nothing to do with the premise that the country was based on Christian principle. The premise isn't supported by their faith but by their STATEMENTS.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

bodecea...ignorance at it's finest.