The "Virtuous" New Nazis.

You're nitpicking somewhat.

I only posted a selection of examples of the Left's antisemitism. I could have posted more. An example of Corbyn and his friendliness with Israel's enemies, for example ?
Almost the entire world is critical of Israel. The Israelis see enemies under their beds. The Palestinian people, including children, are called enemies of Israel for good reason, seeing how they have been treated by the brutal Israeli occupation. Indeed, very many sympathize with Israel's enemies.

As for Livingstone, well, if he was so 'right', how come he was villified for his 'Hitler' view ? How come his employment as an LBC pundit was abruptly terminated after he expressed that comment ? How come EVEN his OWN PARTY dropped him, because he'd become too much of an embarrassment to them ?
The English media are particularly partial to Zionism, after all, putting an homeland for European Jews right in the middle of Palestine was a British idea in the first place.







If they had not invaded Jewish land and resorted to violence then they would not be occupied and held static. They are now facing what the Jews faced for 1400 years at their hands, without the wanton rapes, killings and beatings.

Was it, then how come it was the Jews that first thought of it 4,500 years ago. The British media are against Zionism and the Jews seeing as it is run by neo marxists
Thr Israelis kill very many Palestinians, including children, sometimes vast massacres take place in Gaza using weapons supplied and paid for by American taxpayers.






So why does hamas force the many hundreds of cnildren to act as human shields. Under the criteria in the Geneva conventions it is hamas that is to blame for these deaths as they refuse to move the people out of harms way.

ONLY JEW HATERS AND ISLAMONAZI STOOGES SEE THE ISRAELI'S AS BEING THE ONES BEHIND THE DEATHS.

THE WEAPONS ARE MOSTLY ISRAELI MADE, AND IF THE ARAB MUSLIMS WANTED THE KILLINGS TO STOP THEY SHOULD ASK ISRAEL FOR TALKS
When the Israelis deliberately pulverize schools, hospitals, and neighborhoods, they know they are killing children. To then put out the claim that these children are being used as human shields is cynical propaganda.





And you have evidence to prove your claims, or are you just repeating the islamonazi propaganda you have been drip fed since birth. Do you want to see the pictures of the children forced into being human shields, they shut up the rest of team palestine pretty quickly.

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Israel has no right to exist ... is THIS the message you want people to believe in ?

And I suggest you take a look at the Hamas Charter (Hamas being the ruling power in Gaza, and an internationally recognised terrorist organisation !!). Hamas is committed to Israel's destruction. THIS is the power that, every now and again, fires rockets into Israeli territory, with the hope of killing as many Israeli citizens as they can manage.

This includes women and children. Or .. must they, too, be at the mercy of terrorist scum ??
Hamas has moved on from its charter and no longer call for the destruction of Israel, I understand.





Then why do they trot it out every month or so as a reason/excuse for attacking the Jews. The leaders of hamas call for the destruction of Israel every day, and they even put it in a letter to the UN that the UN should have replied to with threats of multinational violence
The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves as best they can from a brutal Israeli occupation.






You do realise that gaza is not occupied dont you, and that firing illegal rockets into Israel is a war crime and not defence. So want to find where in the Geneva conventions it says targetting children is allowed as a defencive move ?

By the way under International laws it is the arab muslims that occupy Israel, and it is time the UN forced them to leave
By blockading Gaza, controlling its air space and territorial waters, and periodically massacring its citizens, Gaza is effectively occupied territory.





Not according to international law, and that is what counts. Not your JEW HATRED and NAZISM.

If hamas stopped firing illegal weapons into Israel from civilian areas then its civilians would not be killed
 
So you think Hamas would spare them?
Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza.







WRONG they were part of the democratically elected governeent until they decided to take over as dictators. They have refused to allow the people the right to vote and try to blame it on the Jews
The Hamas party won the democratic election ten years ago, since when Gaza has been under siege by the Israelis..
You are rewriting history.




WRONG in August 2005 Israel withdrew from gaza and have not had any control over it since. The blockade is legal and it is hamas that is putting gaza under siege by closing the border crossing on the gaza side. Any idiot that can use a search engine can find out the truth at any time.
The Israelis have not withdrawn from Gaza. "The Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory (the West Bank including East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip) is in its fifth decade and the undercurrent of violence and inherent abuses of fundamental human rights and disregard for international law inherent in any long-standing military occupation is presented by both sides." (Amnesty International)
Israel and Occupied Palestinian Territories






So says the anti semitic left wing AI, that has been proven to tell lies about the Jews and Israel.


International law saws that gaza is not occupied as Israel does not have military control over any part of it. Try reading the real links that tell it as it is, and not as you want to see it
 
Israel has no right to exist ... is THIS the message you want people to believe in ?

And I suggest you take a look at the Hamas Charter (Hamas being the ruling power in Gaza, and an internationally recognised terrorist organisation !!). Hamas is committed to Israel's destruction. THIS is the power that, every now and again, fires rockets into Israeli territory, with the hope of killing as many Israeli citizens as they can manage.

This includes women and children. Or .. must they, too, be at the mercy of terrorist scum ??
Hamas has moved on from its charter and no longer call for the destruction of Israel, I understand.

Link please!!!

Greg
Israel has no right to exist ... is THIS the message you want people to believe in ?

And I suggest you take a look at the Hamas Charter (Hamas being the ruling power in Gaza, and an internationally recognised terrorist organisation !!). Hamas is committed to Israel's destruction. THIS is the power that, every now and again, fires rockets into Israeli territory, with the hope of killing as many Israeli citizens as they can manage.

This includes women and children. Or .. must they, too, be at the mercy of terrorist scum ??
Hamas has moved on from its charter and no longer call for the destruction of Israel, I understand.

Not as of 2014.



You have something more recent??

Greg

I do know one thing; were a country's military occupying my land for half a century, massacring thousands in defiance of all international, sniping at children, destroying our infrastructure, hospitals, water treatment plants, schools, factories, bulldozing our homes with JCBs, arresting our children and keeping them for interrogation without legal counsel or family present, preventing pregnant women from attending maternity clinics, humiliating my people at checkpoints in our own homeland, ... well, I would want that enemy destroyed, wouldn't you?







Only one problem the land was never arab muslims from 1099 when they were evicted. The Ottomans never handed sovereignty to the arab muslims and the LoN gave them 78% of palestine to play with. This left the Jews with the poorest of land and desert to make into their National Home, and because they did in the face of constant attacks from islamonazi's proves they are there to stay.

By the way if you were to act as the islamonazi scum then you would be wiped out by your own government with the blessings of the world. How do you like them apples ?

You are mistaken. It is the people who are born in a land who own it as a birthright. Palestinians who were born in Palestine have a more legitimate right to the land than Ottomans or Russian Jews for that matter.






So you admit that 90% of the arab muslims have no claim to the land as they came from the surroundig area between 1917 and the present day. The UN admit this when they created UNWRA as the arab muslims did not reach the criteria for refugee status being in the area for less than two years.
 
The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves as best they can from a brutal Israeli occupation.


In other words -- you support the mass murder of innocent people.

Terrorism is not defending anything, even if you do happen to share the same desire for the genocide of Jews as Hamas.
I do not support the mass murder of innocent Palestinian children and civilians at the hands of Israeli state terrorism. No.





Evidence to support your claim, what authority has branded Israel as a terrorist state other than the neo nazi's and islamonazi's
 
Meet the packs of new Nazis, posing as Righteousness and Virtue, pursuing new exterminationist policies against Israel and, right after that, the Jews.

"In Nazi Germany," noted Brendan O'Neill in the Wall Street Journal, "it was all the rage to make one's town Judenfrei."

"Now a new fashion is sweeping Europe: to make one's town or city what we might call 'Zionistfrei' -- free of the products and culture of the Jewish state. Across the Continent, cities and towns are declaring themselves 'Israel-free zones,' insulating their citizens from Israeli produce and culture. It has ugly echoes of what happened 70 years ago."

The Nazis said "kauft nicht bei Juden": do not buy from Jews. The slogan of these new racists is "kauft nicht beim Judenstaat": do not buy from the Jewish State. The Nazis repeated "Geh nach Palästina, du Jud": Go to Palestine, you Jew. Racists in Europe shout "Jews out of Palestine!"

The "Virtuous" New Nazis
Those idiots don't realize that Jews were never a threat to them and that the one true threat to them, as well as most of the world......is Islam.

Right, so it's ok to scapegoat innocent Muslims for the actions of a few. Never changes. Just choose new targets.
Pew polls and research have interviewed Muslims in various Muslim nations and found a common thread. To the "majority," Sharia Law is preferable to any other law (and as Sharia Law is part of Islams political aims, it is absolutely incompatible with western society), Gays/Lesbians should be imprisoned or killed, stoning of adulterers is acceptable, and on and on it goes. The reason we don't see most Muslims out there running amok and killing indiscriminately is because many have families to feed and are busy supporting their large families; yet they will still support the overall goal of conquering the non-Islamic world. Any who say otherwise are using "taqqiya."

The reason you don't see them running amok as you say is that is not the way most of them are. As education and income grow, family size goes down. In fact, among Muslim immigrants to western countries by the second generation, family size is other groups.

Pew polls are an excellent source. Have you read what they have to say about American Muslims?






The average muslim family size in Europe is 7, the average European family size is 5. So you really need to change your source

10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.






Muslim Demographics
 
Coming from someone who habitually trawls hate sites for information your (lack of) any credibility is noted.

Scapegoating innocent people is evil, yes?

I think so. I don't think you do.






So why do you see no problem in scapegoating the Jews and try to blame them for everything. They did not start the problems in the world, that was down to the religions that came after

Where have I "scapegoated" Jews or blamed them for everything? Think carefully before you keep lying Phoenall. Maybe you could provide a link.





Your complete acceptance of what team palestine post shows that you blame them for everything that is happening. Your refusal to accept that the same international laws that created Jordan, Iraq, Iran and Syria also created the Jewish national home. Your denial of the Jews rights under international laws and claims of war crimes also shows you to scapegoat the Jews and blame them for everything. Your latest trick of STEALING Jewish land to give to illegal immigrants as it will make the area more peaceful is a laugh after being shown the arab muslims many charters that say the exact opposite and that the only way to ensue peace is to wipe out the Jews and give the land to the muslims.

Not just me that has seen through your veneer as far too many posters are now calling you out.

Where have I blamed Jews for everything? Your inability to provide links (yet again) is duly noted.







Not just me that has seen through your hypocrisy is it, many others are also commenting on your Jew hatred

So you can't find a single link to support your lies?
 
In 1921, Great Britain reneged on the Balfour Declaration, lopped off 77 percent of the Land promised in the Balfour Declaration to the Jews, and set up the Arab Emirate of Trans Jordan. Which eventually became Jordan.

What does this have to do with anti-semitism in Europe?

A profile of the country the anti Semites want to lobby against?

It's old history.

Edited to add: but if you consider it topical, then I will stop refraining from that part of the discussion.
'Ol
I agree. The fact that Antisemitism in Europe has enjoyed a resurgence alongside a huge rise in Muslim immigration is no coincidence. Jews are leaving many European countries because of this, whilst Muslims can't get here quickly enough. Most holocaust deniers in Europe are Muslims, and the left are their allies. The Labour Party is chock full of anti Semites.
I believe your assertion that the "left" is antisemitic is unfounded.
Then you are an ostrich.
I have visited Austria but I am not from there, Tilly.
i know. You are from Spain. I'm not from Aistria either, so I don't get your point, or even if you are making one.

Where's Aistria?
 
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10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.
 
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10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

You're concern would have some legitimacy if the main participants, including yourself and the OP had any serious desire to be on topic :) Otherwise, it's Zone 3, there is flexibility, as long as it doesn't become derailed into an FZ fest.
 
There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.


.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.


The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.
 
There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.


.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.


The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.
You toe the line that all anti semites, and other violent and oppressive ideologues, toe....."We're no.worse than anybody else...except we're JUSTIFIED". What garbage. Nobody is as bad as muslims and nazi progressive douchebags. That's why they're reviled.
 
There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.


.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.


The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.
You toe the line that all anti semites, and other violent and oppressive ideologues, toe....."We're no.worse than anybody else...except we're JUSTIFIED". What garbage. Nobody is as bad as muslims and nazi progressive douchebags. That's why they're reviled.

No one is justified when it is directed at innocent people.

You're toeing the antisemite line.
 
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10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

You're concern would have some legitimacy if the main participants, including yourself and the OP had any serious desire to be on topic :) Otherwise, it's Zone 3, there is flexibility, as long as it doesn't become derailed into an FZ fest.


In other words, do as you say and not as you do.

You fucking hypocrite, you.

I might add as well, that offering a piece by a journalist pulling figures out of his ass does not debunk anything. The world factbook disagrees with his made-up figures.
 
There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.


.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.


The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.


When you signed up with the Muslim Brotherhood to represent them online, did they have you take a class in this sort of turnspeak agitprop or something?
 
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10 Myths About Muslim Immigrants in the West

People look at the huge families of many new Muslim immigrants and imagine them multiplying at exponential rates. But this is a bit of an illusion — as are many of the figures suggesting that Muslim immigrants have fertility rates higher than in their homelands. This is because most new immigrants have most of their children in the years immediately after their arrival. The way we calculate Total Fertility Rate — the measure of average family size — is by taking the total number of births a woman has had and extrapolating it across her fertile life. As a result, because immigrants tend to have most of their children soon after arriving, scholarly analyses of their actual family sizes show that they appear to have more children than they really do.


In reality, the family sizes of Muslim immigrant groups are converging fast with those of average Westerners — faster, it seems, than either Jewish or Catholic immigrants did in their time. Muslims in France and Germany are now having only 2.2 children per family, barely above the national average. And while Pakistani immigrants in Britain have 3.5 children each, their British-born daughters have only 2.5. Across Europe, the difference between the Muslim and non-Muslim fertility rate has fallen from 0.7 to 0.4, and is headed toward a continent-wide convergence.

I sure wish this forum had a moderator of good character who would warn people when they are WAY off topic.

The topic here isn't American Muslims. It is antisemitism, specifically the politically correct variety sweeping the European left.

You're concern would have some legitimacy if the main participants, including yourself and the OP had any serious desire to be on topic :) Otherwise, it's Zone 3, there is flexibility, as long as it doesn't become derailed into an FZ fest.


In other words, do as you say and not as you do.

You fucking hypocrite, you.

I might add as well, that offering a piece by a journalist pulling figures out of his ass does not debunk anything. The world factbook disagrees with his made-up figures.


What, you mean like Pew disagreed with the crap you spewed from a hate site about American Muslims? You're hardly one to be talking about the merits of sources - you're integrity there is zero.

Here's some more if you disagree:

Pew: Fertility Rate for Muslims vs. Non-Muslims in Europe

Birth rates levelling off

A 2007 study by demographers Charles Westhoff and Tomas Frejka identified the same trend among Muslim immigrant populations in most countries where data was available, including Austria, Slovenia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and England and Wales.

The total fertility rate among Muslim women is almost always higher than that of the native population, but “with the passage of time Muslim fertility moves closer to the fertility of the majority of the population in the respective countries”.



In this country, the study tracks changing fertility rates among women from Pakistan and Bangladesh (assumed to be overwhelmingly Muslim).

Women from Pakistan and Bangladesh tend to have more children, but the fertility gap shrinks over the decades.

The US Pew Forum think-tank predicts that this gap will continue to diminish in the coming decades in all European countries.
 
There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.


.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.


The thing with antisemitism is that when boiled down, it's nothing more than hate - hate, which when it riles up a people enough, can kill. It's a hatred perpetrated against a group solely because of who they are perceived to be - not who they are. That hatred is fed by easily believed canards and conspiracy theories, complexities boiled down into black and white simplicities and, no matter how often they are debunked they continue to resurface in times of social, political or economic stress. Right now - in a time when nations are unraveling, national identities are in crisis, and economies are shakey - it's growing: fed and watered by a rhetoric designed to appease the nervous masses and promote a false sense of security.

Whether that rhetoric is directed at Jews, a minority historically persecuted by the great religious majorities, or at Muslims, collectively blamed for the actions of the religion's extremists - it is the same. It's designed to promote hatred, fear and intolerance. To divide a nation along ethnic, racial and religious lines - lines that make it clear one group, no matter what it does, can not belong as long as it shows any visible of it's identity.

There is no difference between what you spew and what you criticize antisemites for. It's all hate (albeit wrapped in a patriotic package), directed at people, because of their identity. That is your proud badge beneath your self-righteous words.


When you signed up with the Muslim Brotherhood to represent them online, did they have you take a class in this sort of turnspeak agitprop or something?

When hatred is directed against innocent people in order to create scapegoats, it's always wrong dude. No matter how you try to spin it with your obfuscations and distractions.

Any decent person would recognize it for what it is and oppose it, rather than excuse it.

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Israeli Arabs are already second class citizens.

So you think Hamas would spare them?
Hamas is the democratically elected government of Gaza.







WRONG they were part of the democratically elected governeent until they decided to take over as dictators. They have refused to allow the people the right to vote and try to blame it on the Jews
The Hamas party won the democratic election ten years ago, since when Gaza has been under siege by the Israelis..
You are rewriting history.




WRONG in August 2005 Israel withdrew from gaza and have not had any control over it since. The blockade is legal and it is hamas that is putting gaza under siege by closing the border crossing on the gaza side. Any idiot that can use a search engine can find out the truth at any time.

Point of information there. They would have to be a mid-range imbecile to be able to do that. If they can't then it IS an indication of the developmental level.

Greg
 
There's a strain of pernicious anti semitism running through European 'intellectual' thought, not particularly influenced by Islam.


.....and as we can see from Eloy, here, that includes those who are not the least bit intellectual as well.

The different strains of antisemitism matter less to me than the hatred, though. The particulars of the various themes utilized to single out Jews may differ between the orthodox Neo Marxists, the Islamists and the soccer hooligan type Nazis, but they all merge together. They all agree that Jews are a singularly pernicious people, sneaky and conniving in behavior, not to be trusted, unduly influential, manipulative and powerful. That these themes now coalesce around the collective Jew as represented by a tiny nation state doesn't really change the nature of the age-old hatred one bit.

I do agree about the pernicious nature of European antisemitism, however, and what makes it especially pernicious is that these idiots actually do see their singling out of Jews as a virtue. Take Coyote, here, who sees herself as a great champion fighting for social justice -- so much so that she has turned it into a full-time preoccupation. Her entire personality is immersed in this great.......well, I would call it a crusade were it not for the fact it is more of an anti-Crusade, and hers is a case of the true believer every bit as rigid and absolute as the most ardent bible-thumping fundamentalist. Multiply one Coyote by tens upon tens of millions, and the true extent of this hatred is revealed.

Antisemitism has passed like a virus from one leftist to the next over the last 50 years or so, and is now so pervasive that a person is automatically assailed if they AREN'T antisemitic. It has become the badge worn proudly by leftists and is now a litmus test used to determine who gets to be included in the club and who doesn't.

The reason for that is quite simple. True; there are historical factors from Europe proper but Israel is a Cold War ally of the West. Lefties will never forgive her for that!!

I call it sorta hate America by proxy. (One factor of many imo)

Greg
 

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